[Official SSB4 Discussion] --- Nintendo announces 2 new Smash games!

[.WC.]

Jill Valentine
Speed: High
Power: Low
Jump: Medium (2 jumps)

Normal-B (Machine Gun)
Burst-fires three bullets at time which do 4% each, no stun.

Side-B (Flash Grenade)
Similar to Snake's grenades. If it hits a player, it does 8% damage and it stuns them.

Down-B (Disappear)
Jill disappears and reappears at another part of the stage with a little end lag.

Up-B (High Jump)
Jill's third jump is higher than her other two jumps combined.

Final Smash - Reinforcements
Chris Redfield comes in with reinforcements to assist Jill for 20 seconds.

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Albert Wesker
Speed: Medium-Slow
Power: High
Jump: Low (2 jumps)

Normal-B (Magnum)
Mid-range weapon. Startup lag. 12% damage and stun.

Side-B (DashAttack)
Wesker is able to temporarily run at a superhuman speed, and if the attack hits the enemy, it's 10% damage.

Down-B (Counter)
Wesker can dodge almost any attack or projectile, and damage the enemy by 8%. End lag if it misses.

Up-B (Survival)
Tether recovery using an Ouroboros tentacle up his sleeve.

Final Smash: Ouroboros
Wesker transform into his final form for 15 seconds with instant kill priority.

I think there's a thread for this called 'Make Your Moves 6'.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Who would F-Zero's shopkeeper be?

Mr. EAD, of course!

Well, either him or Dr. Stewart.

 

[drag0nscythe]

Should shoppers be by series or character? I think series would be best.

Mario series -> Toadsworth
Zelda series -> Malomart
Pokemon series -> Nurse Joy
Wario series -> Mona
Yoshi series -> Kamek
Kirby series -> The painter
Fire emblem -> ???
F-zero -> The announcer from F-Zero GX
Metroid -> Baby Metroid

and so on.

 

[Mario the Jumpman]

Should shoppers be by series or character? I think series would be best.

Mario series -> Toadsworth
Zelda series -> Malomart
Pokemon series -> Nurse Joy
Wario series -> Mona
Yoshi series -> Kamek
Kirby series -> The painter
Fire emblem -> ???
F-zero -> The announcer from F-Zero GX
Metroid -> Baby Metroid

and so on.

And maybe for Sonic: ME!

 

[BBQTV]

Should shoppers be by series or character? I think series would be best.

Mario series -> Toadsworth
Zelda series -> Malomart
Pokemon series -> Nurse Joy
Wario series -> Mona
Yoshi series -> Kamek
Kirby series -> The painter
Fire emblem -> ???
F-zero -> The announcer from F-Zero GX
Metroid -> Baby Metroid

and so on.

pokemon is what i was missing for those who have no good rep just have it tom nook

 

[Mowrt620]

Wow, I feel proud for bringing this topic up!
Anyhow
Tom Nook would be for animal crosser (who WOULD be awesome)

 

[Paper Mario Master]

Should shoppers be by series or character? I think series would be best.

Mario series -> Toadsworth
Zelda series -> Malomart
Pokemon series -> Nurse Joy
Wario series -> Mona
Yoshi series -> Kamek
Kirby series -> The painter
Fire emblem -> ???
F-zero -> The announcer from F-Zero GX
Metroid -> Baby Metroid

and so on.

Baby Metroid? how bout one the GF guys from Corruption? and I don't think it should be the painter for Kirby it should be Rick or somethin. Why Kamek?

and don't forget that TL should have his own (along w/ the other Toons if any get in)
same w/ PM

 

[Mowrt620]

Yeah, kamek is an enemy

Now what about shop looks and stuff, what would the metroid shop look like, ect.
Anyone?

 

[ShinoandtheBallonFighter]

Golden Sun should be the old guy from the first game, the alchemist, (Can't remeber his dan name...someone help me out)

 

[Mowrt620]

If it were a DK character, it would have to be, like, a bamboo shack with a surfboard on the top that says "shop"
Funky Kong would run it, like in mario super sluggers

 

[professor mgw]

I'm just waiting for paper mario and co-op adventure along with downloadable content and a mike.

 

[mariorocks64]

I really hope that paper mario is added this time.

this is my adventure mode idea. choose a character and play through his/her side of the story.

chapter one, the operation

we see tabuu in subspace. acompanied by a second tabuu. the second one is red.they both start an operation. blue has the brains, and red has the power. they invented a new type of shadow bug. a shadow BRAIN!!!!!!!! they send it into the nintendo world, and it first goes into wolf.
wolf become possesed by it. wolf finds captain falcon and attacks him. wolf wins, adds a shadow brain to him, and analyzes the falcon flyer to make a couple more flyers. wolf responds "mission complete!" he does the same for bowser, ashley, ness, ganondorf, a geno doll, shadow, andross, and King K. rool. only ganondorf, and wolf recived a flyer. the plan was working out well. now the battle begins.


I always wondered if geno would have a good moveset. because if you use PSA, texture hacks, and model hacks on ness, you could turn him into geno.

 

[Mowrt620]

Who else has shop ideas?

Oh, and nice story mariorocks, i like the brain thing

 

[Paper Mario Master]

Golden Sun should be the old guy from the first game, the alchemist, (Can't remeber his dan name...someone help me out)

Started w/ a K I think......

and as for shop looks idk if they should change but Metroid would look like the first level in in Corruption and TL should look like Beetle's Boat and PKMN should look like the Mart.

 

[xxmaliciousxx]

RE is a Capcom series, and Megaman would be a better choice.

I would have nothing against Megaman being in SSB4.
Though, the Resident Evil series has grown a strong fanbase on the Gamecube.

 

[professor mgw]

lol does anyone here remember rayman?

 

[.WC.]

Well even though this is off-topic from the current topic, this is still the SSB4 discussion thread. So here is my character roster. I organize by series.

Initial

Mario/Yoshi -Mario, Peach, Bowser Jr./Shadow Mario, Yoshi

Donkey Kong -Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong

TLOZ -Zelda/Sheik, Link, Midna & Wolf Link

Pokemon -Pikachu, PT

Starfox -Fox, Falco

Kirby -Kirby

Fire Emblem - Micaiah, Roy

Metroid -Samus/ZSS

Earthbound -Claus, Lucas

Other -Ice Climbers, Wario, Olimar, Pit

Total: 28

Unlocked (Methods would be situational, like if something like SSE were to return as the story mode, there'd be a part where you play as Mario to fight Bowser, Kirby to fight/fight alongside Dedede, etc.)

Mario/Yoshi -Bowser, Paper Mario

Donkey Kong -K. Rool

TLOZ -Toon Link, Ganondorf, Vaati

Pokemon -Jigglypuff, 2nd Generation PT (Female - with Typhlosion, Croconaw and Chikorita)

Starfox -Krystal, Wolf

Kirby -Dedede

Fire Emblem - Marth, Ike

Metroid -Dark Samus (If it's possible she's NOT a clone)

Earthbound -Ness

F-Zero -Captain Falcon, Black Shadow

Other -Snake, Megaman, Game and Watch, ROB, Geno

Total: 24

Grand total of: 52


Comments.

 

[Mowrt620]

All the stores would be some type of shack, but with different looks, like metroid would be a techno- robotic shack, whereas pikmin would be a mossy, grass shack
idk

 

[drag0nscythe]

Well even though this is off-topic from the current topic, this is still the SSB4 discussion thread. So here is my character roster. I organize by series.

Initial

Mario/Yoshi -Mario, Peach, Bowser Jr./Shadow Mario, Yoshi
Donkey Kong -Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong
TLOZ -Zelda/Sheik, Link, Midna & Wolf Link
Pokemon -Pikachu, PT
Starfox -Fox, Falco
Kirby -Kirby
Fire Emblem - Micaiah, Roy
Metroid -Samus/ZSS
Earthbound -Claus, Lucas
Other -Ice Climbers, Wario, Olimar, Pit

Total: 28

Unlocked (Methods would be situational, like if something like SSE were to return as the story mode, there'd be a part where you play as Mario to fight Bowser, Kirby to fight/fight alongside Dedede, etc.)

Mario/Yoshi -Bowser, Paper Mario
Donkey Kong -K. Rool
TLOZ -Toon Link, Ganondorf, Vaati
Pokemon -Jigglypuff, 2nd Generation PT (Female - with Typhlosion, Croconaw and Chikorita)
Starfox -Krystal, Wolf
Kirby -Dedede
Fire Emblem - Marth, Ike
Metroid -Dark Samus (If it's possible she's NOT a clone)
Earthbound -Ness
F-Zero -Captain Falcon, Black Shadow
Other -Snake, Megaman, Game and Watch, ROB, Geno
Total: 24
Grand total of: 52

Comments.

Well, you are missing Luigi.
Ridley would get in over Dark Samus.
Earthbound does not need another Rep.
While I like the idea of a second trainer, I dislike the pokemon you chose.
You also cut ROB.

I generally dislike the list, but overall it is survivable.

 

[Clownbot]

Well even though this is off-topic from the current topic, this is still the SSB4 discussion thread. So here is my character roster. I organize by series.

Initial

Mario/Yoshi -Mario, Peach, Bowser Jr./Shadow Mario, Yoshi

Donkey Kong -Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong

TLOZ -Zelda/Sheik, Link, Midna & Wolf Link

Pokemon -Pikachu, PT

Starfox -Fox, Falco

Kirby -Kirby

Fire Emblem - Micaiah, Roy

Metroid -Samus/ZSS

Earthbound -Claus, Lucas

Other -Ice Climbers, Wario, Olimar, Pit

Total: 28

Unlocked (Methods would be situational, like if something like SSE were to return as the story mode, there'd be a part where you play as Mario to fight Bowser, Kirby to fight/fight alongside Dedede, etc.)

Mario/Yoshi -Bowser, Paper Mario

Donkey Kong -K. Rool

TLOZ -Toon Link, Ganondorf, Vaati

Pokemon -Jigglypuff, 2nd Generation PT (Female - with Typhlosion, Croconaw and Chikorita)

Starfox -Krystal, Wolf

Kirby -Dedede

Fire Emblem - Marth, Ike

Metroid -Dark Samus (If it's possible she's NOT a clone)

Earthbound -Ness

F-Zero -Captain Falcon, Black Shadow

Other -Snake, Megaman, Game and Watch, ROB, Geno

Total: 24

Grand total of: 52


Comments.

Bolded = placed in the wrong section (going by initially playable characters and unlockables)

Crossed out = shouldn't be playable.

Go crazy.

EDIT: drag0nscythe, you crazy. ROB is in there.

I do agree that he shouldn't have left out Luigi, though. He also forgot Sonic.

 

[Mowrt620]

lol does anyone here remember rayman?

Heck yes dude, like the old ones on the PS1, not the ****ty new ones with the ****ed up rabbids

 

[.WC.]

Well, you are missing Luigi.
Ridley would get in over Dark Samus.
Earthbound does not need another Rep.
While I like the idea of a second trainer, I dislike the pokemon you chose.
You also cut ROB.

I generally dislike the list, but overall it is survivable.

Oops.
I think Ridley would be too big.
Can't disagree there.
Really? I was going to consider a Totodile, Quilava, Meganium, but I thought Typhlosion would be better.
I actually cut MK, ROB is on there

Thanks for the comments

 

[.WC.]

Bolded = placed in the wrong section (going by initially playable characters and unlockables)

Crossed out = shouldn't be playable.

Go crazy.

EDIT: drag0nscythe, you crazy. ROB is in there.

I do agree that he shouldn't have left out Luigi, though. He also forgot Sonic.

Thanks for the comments :D

Luigi left out was an accident. I purposely excluded MK and Sonic, though.

 

[Mowrt620]

Oops.
I think Ridley would be too big.
Can't disagree there.
Really? I was going to consider a Totodile, Quilava, Meganium, but I thought Typhlosion would be better.
I actually cut MK, ROB is on there

Thanks for the comments

You should read the ridley defense post
Bowser is huge, and they make him smaller
Why not ridley? He would rock the block (that was a lame rhyme)

Ridley over dark samus anyday, metroid doesn't need to many reps, maybe one more, who would be RIDLEY!!!

 

[drag0nscythe]

Oops.
I think Ridley would be too big.
Can't disagree there.
Really? I was going to consider a Totodile, Quilava, Meganium, but I thought Typhlosion would be better.
I actually cut MK, ROB is on there

Thanks for the comments

oops. Miss read ROB. Sorry.
I have a different view on the trainer. I want Jiggs, picbu and Gardivour in a second trainer.
also.

Ridely is not to big, but we are not going to get into that debate.
I liked that Midna and wold link was on there. I love that idea. I even made a moveset. (check my sig.)

 

[Clownbot]

MK doesn't need to be removed, just balanced. Ridley being too big is one of the most tired (and invalid) arguments I've ever heard.

A second pokemon trainer would just be clutter, as well as being unecessary filler. We already have one PT, an extra woul just take away his shine.

EDIT: Sonic won't be cut. Maybe he should, but the fanboys would cry even louder than they did when Roy and Mewtwo left.

 

[drag0nscythe]

MK doesn't need to be removed, just balanced. Ridley being too big is one of the most tired (and invalid) arguments I've ever heard.

A second pokemon trainer would just be clutter, as well as being unecessary filler. We already have one PT, an extra woul just take away his shine.

so we need no more transformation characters of any kind because it would take away from Samus and Zelda's shine then?

 

[Clownbot]

so we need no more transformation characters of any kind because it would take away from Samus and Zelda's shine then?

Only if they revolve around the same idea, which in PT's case, is being a pokemon trainer.

I think it's hilarious that you debunk Paper Mario because "HE IS MARIO!" when you loooove the idea of a second trainer, more unoriginal than PM ever was.

 

[Mowrt620]

Paper Mario is awesome, hands down.

 

[drag0nscythe]

Only if they revolve around the same idea, which in PT's case, is being a pokemon trainer.

I think it's hilarious that you debunk Paper Mario because "HE IS MARIO!" when you loooove the idea of a second trainer, more unoriginal than PM ever was.

Thing is, Paper mario is just mario. The trainer is three different characters in 1. Different pokemon, movesets and all the such.

I can say the same for you in a way. Do you support paper mario?

 

[.WC.]

I'm pro-Ridley, I just thought everyone else was anti-Ridley.

I guess people finally changed their minds.

And why does everyone hate on Geno?

 

[Clownbot]

Thing is, Paper mario is just mario. The trainer is three different characters in 1. Different pokemon, movesets and all the such.

I can say the same for you in a way. Do you support paper mario?

I don't necessarily support him, but I wouldn't mind if he was added, as long as he wasn't a clone, which isn't really something that goes against him since Sakurai obviously doesn't mind adding clones.

 

[Mowrt620]

I'm not crazy about a second PT, but I could handle it
Paper mario has completely different moves than mario, and for those on the SSE, he might have to be like TL wolf and jigglypuff, unless the fit everyone in SSE this tikme around, which would be cool!

 

[.WC.]

Thing is, Paper mario is just mario. The trainer is three different characters in 1. Different pokemon, movesets and all the such.

I can say the same for you in a way. Do you support paper mario?

I support Paper Mario.

He may be a variation of Mario, but he's quite original. I think the most move-set material would come straight out of PM2. But I saw his Final Smash as being the Star Beam from PM1. You know, the attack you could only use in the final Bowser fight.

 

[mariorocks64]

since nintendo is adding third party, I'm having high hopes for bomberman, and mabye bubble bobble.


chapter 2: mushroom kingdom come
in the vice, Daisy wins a striker match against wario. her prize is a week vacation on isle delfino. but daisy had other plans. during the flight, daisy jumped out the hot air baloon, and skipped across clouds. then, she made a dive bomb straight into the mushroom kingdom.
king boo flies to mario's house, and possesses mario. mario wakes up, leaves the house, seals the door with wooden planks, and sends 3 boos to prevent luigi from waking up. mario heads to peach's castle.he gets inside and sees peach in her bed.peach arises from her slumber and asks "mario...?" peach looked closerly through mario's eyes. and she saw king boo. she gasped, but before she could scream, mario quickly snatched peach, and broke out the window and ran to bowser's castle. inside, bowser made his evil laugh. then he tells bowser jr to go destroy the mushroom kingdom. mario drops peach onto the ground. and he goes to the jail room to gaurd it. some dry bones were captive as well as dead toads, and dead yoshis. bowser talks to peach "princess, I want you to be my eternal wife, and you will forever remain here in this castle. but you may watch as your precious kingdom is destroyed. mwa hahaha!!!"
daisy is inside peach's castle. she yells "hello?" twice. then she sees some KOed toads on the floor. next, she goes inside peach's room and sees a broken window. then, she jumps out it and runs to bowser's castle.


I already have a moveset for bub from bubble bobble. anyone want to see it?

 

[drag0nscythe]

I'm pro-Ridley, I just thought everyone else was anti-Ridley.

I guess people finally changed their minds.

And why does everyone hate on Geno?

The fans of Geno caused it. My understanding is that the fans pushed him so much that the collective broke down and started hating him.

Now-a-days, it is relevance that causes the hate for him. He is not really relevant, was only in one game (so to speak) and there are better choices for square to have (which I kind of disagree with,)

I see Geno as a symbolism of Nintendo and Squares partnership (like I see Starfy for TOSE and Nintendo.) Geno represents the bond between the two companies so to speak.

Given that, he is usually the person I think of for the square rep.

since nintendo is adding third party, I'm having high hopes for bomberman, and mabye bubble bobble.


chapter 2: mushroom kingdom come
in the vice, Daisy wins a striker match against wario. her prize is a week vacation on isle delfino. but daisy had other plans. during the flight, daisy jumped out the hot air baloon, and skipped across clouds. then, she made a dive bomb straight into the mushroom kingdom.
king boo flies to mario's house, and possesses mario. mario wakes up, leaves the house, seals the door with wooden planks, and sends 3 boos to prevent luigi from waking up. mario heads to peach's castle.he gets inside and sees peach in her bed.peach arises from her slumber and asks "mario...?" peach looked closerly through mario's eyes. and she saw king boo. she gasped, but before she could scream, mario quickly snatched peach, and broke out the window and ran to bowser's castle. inside, bowser made his evil laugh. then he tells bowser jr to go destroy the mushroom kingdom. mario drops peach onto the ground. and he goes to the jail room to gaurd it. some dry bones were captive as well as dead toads, and dead yoshis. bowser talks to peach "princess, I want you to be my eternal wife, and you will forever remain here in this castle. but you may watch as your precious kingdom is destroyed. mwa hahaha!!!"
daisy is inside peach's castle. she yells "hello?" twice. then she sees some KOed toads on the floor. next, she goes inside peach's room and sees a broken window. then, she jumps out it and runs to bowser's castle.


I already have a moveset for bub from bubble bobble. anyone want to see it?

Post the moveset.
And while you are at it, posting you story. Is it possible to include a link to the older parts. That way I do not have to look though many pages in hopes of finding earlier parts.

 

[StinkomanFan]

Why is their a fanfiction in a serious thread?

 

[Mowrt620]

100th post yay!

Yeah, PM is completely different from mario, after all, they had toon link, who WAS a clone of link
PM would be better off

 

[Clownbot]

I'm not crazy about a second PT, but I could handle it
Paper mario has completely different moves than mario, and for those on the SSE, he might have to be like TL wolf and jigglypuff, unless the fit everyone in SSE this tikme around, which would be cool!

Before Brawl, everyone wanted TL in, and they said that he could be added because he had the potential not to be a clone of Link.

Hey, look what happened to Toon Link in Brawl!

 

[.WC.]

The fans of Geno caused it. My understanding is that the fans pushed him so much that the collective broke down and started hating him.

Now-a-days, it is relevance that causes the hate for him. He is not really relevant, was only in one game (so to speak) and there are better choices for square to have (which I kind of disagree with,)

I see Geno as a symbolism of Nintendo and Squares partnership (like I see Starfy for TOSE and Nintendo.) Geno represents the bond between the two companies so to speak.

Given that, he is usually the person I think of for the square rep.

He was only in two games, so that's fair.

Unfortunately the second game was just a cameo in a slot machine minigame in M&L:SS