[Official SSB4 Discussion] --- Nintendo announces 2 new Smash games!

[SmashBrosMike]

For SSB4 (I'm so **** freakin sure you guys are going to disagree with me) Screw Sidescrolling. It should let it be like moving around and around you know like Mortal Kombat. Where you can mvoe any side and anywhere.

I use to like Sidescrolling, but it really sucks now. I want it to be where you can go any side and that would rock.

 

[flyinfilipino]

For SSB4 (I'm so **** freakin sure you guys are going to disagree with me) Screw Sidescrolling. It should let it be like moving around and around you know like Mortal Kombat. Where you can mvoe any side and anywhere.

I use to like Sidescrolling, but it really sucks now. I want it to be where you can go any side and that would rock.

(we're prefectly free to disagree with you, and coming here should mean you're ready to accept that) Not side-scrolling, I'm sure you mean in a 2-D plane as opposed to a 3-D plane (or even free-roaming). The thing is, after three games, Smash Bros.' gameplay has been really fine tuned for 2-D gameplay. Unless a jump to 3-D free-roaming yields new game mechanics that work well and yet retain the simplicity that Smash Bros. strives for, it's not exactly a good move.

 

[SmashBrosMike]

(we're prefectly free to disagree with you, and coming here should mean you're ready to accept that) Not side-scrolling, I'm sure you mean in a 2-D plane as opposed to a 3-D plane (or even free-roaming). The thing is, after three games, Smash Bros.' gameplay has been really fine tuned for 2-D gameplay. Unless a jump to 3-D free-roaming yields new game mechanics that work well and yet retain the simplicity that Smash Bros. strives for, it's not exactly a good move.

Had a feeling, did you know what I mean. I mean is you can move any where as if it was a fighting arena. Anyway oh well. That was just an idea.

 

[Jimnymebob]

3D adventure would be good, but difficult to make, time consuming, and would lack charm.
A 3D Nintendo collab adventure game would be sweet, but not for SSB.

 

[flyinfilipino]

Had a feeling, did you know what I mean. I mean is you can move any where as if it was a fighting arena. Anyway oh well. That was just an idea.

Yeah, I know what you meant; it's been discussed here before (so has everything else). What do you mean "oh well"? It's still an idea and it's still possible in the future.

 

[Giga Pichu]

A 3D Smash has always been a thought of mine, but it didnt seem to work out too well in my head....

 

[SmashBrosMike]

Any chance we will see Meowth as a Playable Character for the Super SmashBros. Series.

 

[LSDX]

my list


Mario:
Mario
Luigi
Princess Peach
Bowser
Bowser Jr.
Paper mario

DK:
DK
Diddy Kong
King K. Rool
Funky Kong
Dixie Kong

Yoshi:
Yoshi

Wario:
Wario
Captain Syrup

Animal Crossing:
Tom Nook
K.K. Slider...win

F Zero:
Captain Falcon
Black Shadow

Fire Emblem:
Marth
Roy
Ike
Eirika
Ephraim

Kid Icarus:
Pit

Kirby:
Kirby
King Dedede
Metaknight
Nightmare(the ultimate villain of Kirby's Adventure and its remake, Kirby: Nightmare in Dream Land.)
Knuckle Joe

Metroid:
Samus
Ridley
Kanden
Spire
Trace
Sylux
Noxus

Mother/EarthBound:
Ness
Lucas
Ninten
Flint

Star Fox:
Fox
Falco
Krystal
Wolf

The Legend of Zelda:
same ppl
Link
Zelda/Sheik
Ganondorf
Vaati

Pokémon:
Pikachu
PKMN Trainer
Mewtwo
Darkrai
**** ...epic

Golden Sun:
Isaac
Garet

Nintendo:
R.O.B.
Mr. G&W
Ice Climbers
Pit
Takamaru
Lip

DE blob:
Be blod

Sonic:
Sonic
Tails
Shadow
Knuckles

Super Mario RPG:
Geno

Fix'd for success. By the way, I had to go through and correct all your horribly putrid spelling and grammatical errors. Learn to format and write in a better way...

 

[SmashBrosMike]

Oh that is it. If you guys are showing your roster. I will show mine. I think that for SSB4 there should be 48 playable characters. That is a good amount.



My Roster for SSB4

No * - Character is Playable at the Start
* - Character is hidden and has to be unlocked


Mario Series:

Mario
Peach
Bowser
*Luigi
*Bowser Jr./Shadow Mario
*Paper Mario


Yoshi Series:

Yoshi


Wario Series:

Wario
Mona
*Waluigi


Donkey Kong Series:

Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
*Dixie Kong
*King K. Rool


Zelda Series:

Link
Zelda/Shiek
*Ganondorf
*Toon Link


Kirby Series:

Kirby
Meta Knight
King Dedede


Metroid Series:

Samus/Zero Suit Samus
Ridley


StarFox Series:

Fox McCloud
Krystal
*Falco Lombardi
*Wolf O'Donnell


Pokemon Series:

Pikachu
Pokemon Trainer
*Jigglypuff
*Meowth
*Lucario


Earthbound Series:

Lucas
*Ness


Fire Emblem Series:

Ike
*Marth
*Lyndis


F-Zero Series:

*Captain Falcon
*Black Shadow


Misc. Series:

Ice Climbers
Pit
Captain Olimar
Isaac
Lip
*R.O.B.
*Mr. Game & Watch


Third Party Series:

*Snake
*Sonic

 

[Giga Pichu]

Hey, What about MY list?!
Oh, and to Mike, No, Probally not.

 

[Jimnymebob]

Meowth should have been a character, but it's too late for him now probably.
If he was going to be in, I think he would have been in Melee.

 

[Snowstalker]

Super Mario (including spin-offs)

Mario
Bowser
Peach
Luigi
Bowser Jr.
Yoshi
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
King K. Rool
Wario

Legend of Zelda:

Link
Zelda/Sheik
Ganondorf
Toon Link
Vaati

Metroid:

Samus
Ridley

Retro Series:

Ice Climbers
Pit
Little Mac
Sukapon
R.O.B
Mr. Game & Watch

Kirby:

Kirby
King Dedede
Meta Knight

Pikmin:

Olimar

Animal Crossing:

Villager

Star Fox:

Fox
Falco

F-Zero:

Captain Falcon
Black Shadow

Pokemon:

Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Pokemon Trainer (3 different Pokemon)
Mewtwo
5th gen Pokemon

Mother:

Ness
Lucas

Fire Emblem:

Marth
Ike
Micicah

Golden Sun:

Isaac

3rd Party:

Sonic
Snake
Megaman
Geno

 

[SmashBrosMike]

Hey, What about MY list?!
Oh, and to Mike, No, Probally not.

Your just doing that just to bug me. So don't.

 

[Linkshot]

I honestly think Sylux needs to be playable. The next-most deserving Hunter is Weavel, to represent Space Pirates. Sylux is the anti-hero, Ridley is the villain.

We can't deny it. There will be a new Kirby rep. Now, it has to be original, so...

Adeline. From Crystal Shards.

I was disappointed that you could hit the Metroid, but not freeze it. Way to fail, Sakurai.

 

[SmashBrosMike]

And Giga Pichu. King K. Rool will have chances. So don't even try bugging me.

 

[A1lion835]

Mewtwo is coming back. He'll be the only one to come back from melee. MARK.MY.WORDS.

 

[SmashBrosMike]

Mewtwo is coming back. He'll be the only one to come back from melee. MARK.MY.WORDS.

I agree with him.

The only reason Mewtwo did not return was because of Time Constraints. So he will probably come back for sure.

 

[SirKibble]

Mewtwo is coming back. He'll be the only one to come back from melee. MARK.MY.WORDS.

Your confidence makes it all the more hilarious to think about Mewtwo not coming back.

Seriously, what makes you so ridiculously sure of yourself?

 

[LSDX]

While I'm here, I'll make a roster too:

Mario:
Mario
Luigi
Bowser
Peach
Bowser Jr./ or Paper Mario

Donkey Kong:
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
King K. Rool

Zelda:
Link
Zelda/Sheik
Ganondorf (Non-Cloned; Sword),
Toon Link (or Young Link [Uses different masks from Majora's Mask])
Vaati

Metroid:
Samus/ZSS
Ridley

Kirby:
Kirby
King Dedede
Metaknight

Starfox:
Fox
Falco
Wolf
Krystal

Pokemon:
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Mewtwo
PKMN Trainer

Fire Emblem:
Marth
Ike
Roy (I wish)
Lyn /or new Fire Emblem Lord

Yoshi:
Yoshi
Baby Mario & Luigi

F-Zero:
Captian Falcon
Black Shadow (Ganondorf's cloned moveset)

Warioware/land:
Wario

Golden Sun:
Isaac

Retro:
Ice Climbers
Mr.G&W
Pit
R.O.B.
Takamaru
Lip
Sukapon (Eh)

3rd Party:
Sonic
Snake (*Sigh*)
Megaman
Geno

---
I did this off the top of my head, so if I missed any influential characters do tell.

 

[Giga Pichu]

No, Mike. I KNOW K. Rool is getting in, im just supporting that fact.

 

[SmashBrosMike]

No, Mike. I KNOW K. Rool is getting in, im just supporting that fact.

Sarcasm. Nice try. You can't fool me. I'm not stupid.

 

[Lord Viper]

So which sprite should I use.

Should I stick with the Lip sprite:

Or the Furil Sprite:

I love them both, Furil's Panel De Pon is the most fun, but Lip's Panel De Pon looks the sweetest. I can't choose..... WHICH ONE!!! T_T

 

[Giga Pichu]

I like the new one, it goes better with a post.

Lip- "ill spin this post round and round and round..."

 

[A1lion835]

Your confidence makes it all the more hilarious to think about Mewtwo not coming back.

Seriously, what makes you so ridiculously sure of yourself?

A few things, really. First off, he was the only character who wasn't a clone in melee to not be in brawl. Second, he was partially programmed in brawl. Third, go here, and go to the second picture. Look between the golden hammer and the ice climbers. I hardly think the shape of that thing (whatever it is) was accidental. There are other things, but those are the basics.

 

[LSDX]

I like the new one, it goes better with a post.

Lip- "ill spin this post round and round and round..."

Enough, my ship sails in the morning.

 

[Jimnymebob]

Stick with Lip .

 

[LSDX]

Stick with Lip .

*Sigh* Thanks to you Viper, I now must go and play this Panel de Pon game. What console is it for?

 

[flyinfilipino]

A few things, really. First off, he was the only character who wasn't a clone in melee to not be in brawl. Second, he was partially programmed in brawl. Third, go here, and go to the second picture. Look between the golden hammer and the ice climbers. I hardly think the shape of that thing (whatever it is) was accidental. There are other things, but those are the basics.

None of those things have anything to do with Mewtwo's chances of coming back in the next game. None.

 

[Giga Pichu]

Wait, you mean the new one ISN'T LIP? Stick with the old one. K. Rool Approves of Lip.

Oh, and Snapple... I wonder what's for DINNER?

 

[SmashBrosMike]

First of all, SiKibble was talking to SmashBrosMike (who now claims to understand the concept of sarcasm).

**** right I do.

So realize that!

 

[Kraryo]

Mario and related franchises:
Mario (Doc as alternate costume)
Wario (overalls default, Wario Ware alternate. Slippy and MoD Wario as 2 extra alternates)
Luigi (Mr. L alternate)
Peach (Daisy alternate)
Bowser (Dry Bowser alternate)
Donkey (Kiddy Kong alternate)
Diddy
K. Rool
Geno (Vaati alternate if TL didn't take it)
Toad (Toadette alternate)
Waluigi
Yoshi
9-Volt
Dixie
Kat and Ana


Zelda:
Toon Link (Outser or Vaati alternate)
Link (Village clothes alternate)
Zelda/Shiek
Ganondorf
Tingle
Wolf Link
Tetra

Star Fox:
Fox (Wolf as an alternate costume)
Krystal
Panther (he would replace Wolf. Panther would have his A moves and throws, but has unique specials in order to not be a semi-clone of Fox. Not to mention we need more cat characters.)

Kirby:
Kirby (has a Waddle Dee costume)
Meta Knight (Bronto Burt alternate)
D3

Pokemon:
Mewtwo (armor alternate)
Most recent gen trainer
Pikachu
Lucario

Gamecube:
Olimar (has president costume)
Animal Crosser (has girl costume) or Tom Nook

Old School:
Mr.G&W
ROB
Pit
Ice Climbers
Balloon Fighter

RPG:
Ness (Paula alternate)
Lucas (has a Masked Man costume)
Marth
Roy
Ike (Garret alternate)
Isaac (has Felix suit)

Metroid:
Samus (Master Chief. Just kidding, or am I?)
Zamus (Captain Syrup alternate)
Ridley (Charizard alternate, because of latest PT)

3rd Party:
Sonic (has Shadow and or Metal Sonic costume)
Tails
Eggman
Blaze
Megaman
Snake (has old Snake suit)
Bomberman (has Max suit)
Pacman (has Mrs. Pacman suit)
Sora
Mickey Mouse (KH Mickey as alternate)
Lloyd

F-Zero:
Captain Falcon
Samurai Goroh

 

[Linkshot]

omg, like, SERIOUSLY! Mewtwo's sprite is TOTALLY a cloud of dust v.v

Jeez, talk about wishful thinking.

 

[Giga Pichu]

Mario and related franchises:
Mario (Doc as alternate costume)
Wario (overalls default, Wario Ware alternate. Slippy and MoD Wario as 2 extra alternates)
Luigi (Mr. L alternate)
Peach (Daisy alternate)
Bowser (Dry Bowser alternate)
Donkey (Kiddy Kong alternate)
Diddy
K. Rool
Geno (Vaati alternate if TL didn't take it)
Toad (Toadette alternate)
Waluigi
Yoshi

Zelda:
Toon Link (Outser or Vaati alternate)
Link (Village clothes alternate)
Zelda/Shiek
Ganondorf
Tingle

Star Fox:
Fox (Wolf as an alternate costume)
Krystal
Falco

Kirby:
Kirby (has a Waddle Dee costume)
Meta Knight
D3

Pokemon:
Mewtwo (armor alternate)
Most recent gen trainer
Pikachu
Lucario

Gamecube:
Olimar (has LOUIE and president costume)
Animal Crosser (has girl costume) or Tom Nook

Old School:
Mr.G&W
ROB
Pit
Ice Climbers
Balloon Fighter

RPG:
Ness (Paula alternate)
Lucas (has a Masked Man costume)
Marth
Roy
Ike (Garret alternate)
Isaac (has Felix suit)

Metroid:
Samus/Zamus
Ridley (Charizard alternate, because of latest PT)

3rd Party:
Sonic (has Shadow and or Metal Sonic costume)
Tails
Megaman
Snake (has old Snake suit)
Bomberman (has Max suit)
F-Zero:
Captain Falcon
Samurai Goroh

Fix'd for sucess. Seriously. MICKEY MOUSE?!

 

[rexinator]

I think the next Psychic Pokemon will be Deoxys. If they went back to Mewtwo, that would be stupid. Every new smash game deserves a new psychic poke.

 

[Jimnymebob]

Why not a fighting Pokemon for a fighting game?

 

[Kraryo]

Luario is a Fighting/Steel type.

Looking up at the improved list: WT*? No Panther?

 

[Lord Viper]

Hmm, I guess I'll keep the Lip sprite. I'll make use for the Furil sprite, I think of somthing. :D

*Sigh* Thanks to you Viper, I now must go and play this Panel de Pon game. What console is it for?

Panel De Pon: Super Falcon (Japan Super Nintendo, you can play it on the emulator) US version, Tetris Attack (SNES)

Nintendo Puzzle Collection "The one that Furil's in" (Nintendo Gamecube, but you have to import it and have a freeloader) US version, Pokemon Puzzle League (N64)

Panel De Pon DS (DS, well you knew that already, lol. Thought it doesn't have Panel De Pon chracters but it plays the same. At least it has Lip's Theme.) US Planet Puzzle League (DS)

Most of the US games that has the Panel De Pon game play is called Puzzle League for some reason.

 

[Linkshot]

.........I hate you.

Lucario is NOT PSYCHIC

He is Fighting/Steel. The Steel represents his willpower. Aura Sphere is Fighting Type.

The only psychic attack he can learn is taught by TM: Psychic. He is not a Psychic type, though.

Mewtwo VS Lucario would not be a clone fight, and it would be an awesome battle in the storyline.

 

[Giga Pichu]

For one thing...WOLF not being his own character = None of his buddies can be in without him. Panther would OWN, but only if wolf is in, too. I personally would prefer Leon

 

[LSDX]

Fix'd for sucess. Seriously. MICKEY MOUSE?!

My line mah boi! Just sec, I'll grab my stuff!