[Official SSB4 Discussion] --- Nintendo announces 2 new Smash games!

[Lord Viper]

You are not counting the intial jump. If Pit is on the ground, you can use his 1st jump, then you can jump 3 more times in mid-air.

Oh, now I get it. Man I get confused when people count all the jumps instead of just mid air jumps. My bad WolfCypher and PowerBomb. ;p

 

[PowerBomb]

It's all good :D

 

[Giga Pichu]

Why do people care about JUMP HEIGHTS? Lets talk about things people actually care about! RUDLIE 4 SSB4!!!111!

 

[WolfCypher]

Rudlie?

Who?

 

[Giga Pichu]

Ridley. Thats my N00b spelling for him

 

[PowerBomb]

Well then, spell better.

No noob spelling here please XD

 

[SmashBrosMike]

Hans Moleman for SSB4.

Would anyone like him to appear.

 

[karthik_king]

my sig is ******* awesome

 

[Jimnymebob]

Yeah, I like Hans Moleman- and I guess he could fit in quite well.



Who am I kidding? Hans Moleman from The Simpsons?! Why would he get in before Itchy and Scratchy, unless they are IC clones, then I don't want them in.

 

[SmashBrosMike]

Hans Moleman: I use to sleep with Lan's Grandmother.

xD

 

[LSDX]

I come in here after one day and we're now talking about moles?? I've been busy hacking Bawl lately, but I'll be on occasionally.

I'll start a discussion: In the next game, who do you think will receive the most buffs and the worst nerfs? Along with that, who will become the most broken character?

 

[PowerBomb]

Most nerfed?

Meta Knight, King Dedede, Game and Watch, Snake. Falco will get nerfed a bit...but not really because Sakurai likes furries >_>

Most Buffed:

CAPTAIN FALCON
SAMUS
PEACH

Those.

 

[WolfCypher]

What's up with all the Sakurai hate on ther fo'realzees?

 

[LSDX]

Nerfed:
-Meta Knight
-Donkey Kong
-Snake

Buffed:
-Captain Falcon
-Ganondorf
-Link

Most Broken:
-Falco
-Sheik
-Geno >_>

 

[gantrain05]

why Nerf DK? that sounds like you just hate the big ape lol

 

[BKupa666]

Nerf Dedede instead of DK.

 

[PowerBomb]

What's up with all the Sakurai hate on ther fo'realzees?

Because many people are still pissed @ Sakurai for creating the abomination known as
Meta Knight.

Nerfed:
-Meta Knight
-Game and Watch
-Snake
-King DDD

Buffed:
-Captain Falcon
-Ganondorf
-Link
-Samus

Most Broken:
-Sheik
-Geno >_>
-Ridley

Fixed.

 

[Jimnymebob]

Metaknight should lose the ability to do a kind of 360 with his side B. If it only sent him directly horizontal then it wouldn't be as bad.
Mach Tornado should also finish quicker.

 

[PowerBomb]

Metaknight should lose the ability to do a kind of 360 with his side B. If it only sent him directly horizontal then it wouldn't be as bad.
Mach Tornado should also finish quicker.

Lol.

No, just make it so every attack in the game hits through Mach Tornado, make his Side B not pump him up into the air after it's done.

Just nerf MK enough to make him low-tier.

 

[Nick The Potato]

How about...instead of Nerfing everyone...make everyone...balanced!

*Runs away*

 

[Jimnymebob]

I don't want MK banned/ low tier.
I wouldn't mind if he stayed top of top tier, as long as he receives a couple of nerfs. All his specials function as effective recovery moves. If his side B only traveled horizontally, then at least he still has his other specials, multiple jumps and glide to fall back on.

 

[BKupa666]

How about...instead of Nerfing everyone...make everyone...balanced!

*Runs away*

Uhh...how bout...nerfing and buffing characters who need it to make everyone...balanced!

 

[PowerBomb]

Yeah o.O

Everyone can defeat everyone depending on the players skill. No chain grabs, no infinites.

 

[Jimnymebob]

I would laugh if Yoshi got cut, and his moveset was based off Dragon Yoshi, with infinite flying and fire breathing.
Metaknight in Brawl would be considerd low tier compared to that.

 

[MasterCheeze]

Bump everyone up to MK standards. MK DOESN'T CHANGE AT ALL, and everyone else gets enough improvements to be on the same level as he is.

Eh, not gonna happen I bet. I would rather have Miyamoto direct since I would prefer a broken Link or Mario over a broken MK or D3.

 

[BKupa666]

@PowerBomb: That should be what Smash Bros. is all about...skill. Choosing the original Nintendo character you want because of who they are and how they play, not choosing one of five Nintendo characters because they are broken beyond repair.

And no Miyamoto, then we'd have everyone flailing the Wiimote around to attack randomly...with only specials.

 

[WolfCypher]

You can never tell how balanced or unbalanced the characters are until after the game's been playtested for 6-12 months or so. Look at SC4.

 

[Jimnymebob]

Bump everyone up to MK standards. MK DOESN'T CHANGE AT ALL, and everyone else gets enough improvements to be on the same level as he is.

Eh, not gonna happen I bet. I would rather have Miyamoto direct since I would prefer a broken Link or Mario over a broken MK or D3.

But that would mean Link would have to fly, glide, have 6 jumps, and no bad matchups, except for himself.

If all characters only bad matchups were themselves, then wouldn't that make them all low tier, as they only have one good matchup each, which is themselves.

 

[Kraryo]

My predictions:
Buff:
Ness
Pokemon Trainer
Mario
Fox: Sonic's greatest rival is probably gonna get buffed. Sad, because Sonic is a way better person than him.
Sonic: Hopefully he gets buffed, so that he can beat his rival who isn't as cool as him.

Light Nerf:
Meta Knight
Marth
Dedede
Snake
Mr. Game & Watch
Falco
Wario
Ganondorf
Lucas
Olimar

Heavy Nerf:
ROB
Link
Luigi
Captain Falcon
Pit

Top Tier
Mario: Mario is awesome and he deserves to be the best character in the game.
Geno
Ridley
Megaman
Animal Crosser
Tingle

 

[PowerBomb]

But that would mean Link would have to fly, glide, have 6 jumps, and no bad matchups, except for himself.

If all characters only bad matchups were themselves, then wouldn't that make them all low tier, as they only have one good matchup each, which is themselves.

Then they'd all be balanced.

My predictions:
Buff:
Ness
Pokemon Trainer
Mario
Fox: Sonic's greatest rival is probably gonna get buffed. Sad, because Sonic is a way better person than him.
Sonic: Hopefully he gets buffed, so that he can beat his rival who isn't as cool as him.

Light Nerf:
Meta Knight
Marth
Dedede
Snake
Mr. Game & Watch
Falco
Wario
Ganondorf
Lucas
Olimar

Heavy Nerf:
ROB
Link
Luigi
Captain Falcon
Pit

Top Tier
Mario: NO.
Geno
Ridley
Megaman
SAMUS

Everyone forgets about Samus

She got nerfed halfway to infinity too ya know.

 

[Jimnymebob]

My predictions:

Heavy Nerf:
ROB
Link
Luigi
Captain Falcon
Pit

Please be messing around there.
Link has needed buffing since SSB.
Luigi just needs a couple of different specials.
Captain Falcon is bottom of the tier list.
Pit's ok, it's just people who spam Angel Ring and Palutena's Bow that need to be changed.

 

[Kraryo]

Those were just my predictions. They nerfed Link in Brawl who was already bad in Melee.

For characters I really want nerfed enough to have an effect:
MK
D3
Marth
Snake
G&W

 

[Linkshot]

Waking a comatose dog.

The reason SmashBrosMike hates the Mother series is this.

He's your standard gamer that wants action and skips through all the text.

Case solved.

 

[Nick The Potato]

Ooohh...He just got Falcon Punched.

 

[Jimnymebob]

I like reading things/ watching cutscenes in video games.
Except the cutscene before the second Riku fight on KH that you can't skip .

 

[Kraryo]

I skip text in RPGs too.

Spoiler

After I beat it and decide to replay it.

 

[PowerBomb]

Never skip text in Mother 3.

Seriously, just don't. It messes you up.

 

[tRoll King]

Anyone else feel that a Grue should be in the next game? XD

Possibly an uber assist trophy.

 

[MaxfireXSA]

How much of a chance do you really think that a character you made up would have of appearing in SSB4?

Probably none of the chance depending if you want to agree to have Mal in the Boss of the SSB4 Adventure Mode.

If you say it backwards it's Lam.
Like a baby sheep.
But without the B at the end.

Do you get it?

Yes I get it, but that's Mal to be put into a boss of the SSB4 Adventure Mode.

 

[Roihu]

Skipping text in Mother 3 is like a sin.
Every single bit contains some sort of emotion.
Whether it's laughter, sadness, or whatever else characters in the game feel.
While I'm not usually the person to skip text because I feel I may lose something important information, I usually DO want to skip it. There was only one area in Mother 3 I wanted to skip the text for and that was only to get to the next part. (The Mr. Saturn thing. As awesome as they are, I was too excited to get to the next needle)