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[Official SSB4 Discussion] --- Nintendo announces 2 new Smash games!
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MasterToshima
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one word:
WALUIGI. so ya they could put in a fking Wario but no Waluigi? He would be like his perfect team mate.
Also it would be cool to add Baby characters, but nothing without Waluigi.
I also request a Waluigi stage.
I even made a moveset for him lol
WALUIGI. so ya they could put in a fking Wario but no Waluigi? He would be like his perfect team mate.
Also it would be cool to add Baby characters, but nothing without Waluigi.
I also request a Waluigi stage.
I even made a moveset for him lol
choknater
Smash Obsessed
How about both? Better yet, Mega Chief.
Seconded..
rexinator
Smash Apprentice
I guess I agree that it would have more sales.No I'd rather have Master Chief over Megaman because he'd bring more sales to SSB4.
I 100% agree with the fact that Waluigi MUST be in. I don't really think babies would be a good choice though. (think about it, Mario vs. Baby Mario, it's just not fair)
SirKibble
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Master Chief's utter lack of any possibility to get in aside, I won't argue with the sales point, I guess, but it's not like Smash 4 won't be making enough money already.No I'd rather have Master Chief over Megaman because he'd bring more sales to SSB4.
Wario has a series, while Waluigi does not. Waluigi was originally created so that Wario could have a doubles partner in Mario Tennis, and he has yet to actually have a significant role in any game. That's why Wario but no Waluigi.
We're not exactly looking for every character to have a "team mate" in Smash...
I agree with the Babies, though I doubt they'll get in. Baby Mario Bros. for SSB4, I've said it a million times, but in all honesty, it probably won't happen.
Link vs. Young Link worked out fine...
Red Arremer
Smash Legend
Wario has even 2 series: WarioWare and Wario Land. He also is a major character in several Mario games (Super Mario Land 2, Super Mario 64 DS, Spin-Offs), while Waluigi has only appeared in Spin-Offs so far, is not really considered being a major character to the Mario cast, has no own series, doesn't even appear in Wario's 2 game series, and is in Brawl at least as an Assist Trophy.
I think for the fact that Waluigi is a quite unimportant character the AT-status is fair enough for him, specially when he's placed aside with worthy characters like Samurai Goroh, Isaac, Shadow and Little Mac.
YEA i was sooo disapointed....
i think that the snake thing is a 1 time thing.
GrayPlague
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Wait, why is HE in that list and not Lyn? Lyn should have been a friggin' member of the main cast; we don't really need Marth, he's pretty outdated, despite the remake (and if they use Marth again and remake him in FE11 style, I will kill someone).Spadefox said:
Red Arremer
Smash Legend
Marth is imho a very important character for the FE series, because he in fact was the first Lord. That'd be like putting in Jody Summers and Black Shadow, but not Captain Falcon, since he was (one of) the first pilot(s) in the F-Zero series.
SirKibble
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In a way, I guess you could say Marth is to Fire Emblem as Pikachu is to Pokemon.
Pikachu's hardly got an important role in the newer games, but regardless, he was the lead, recognized character of what started it all, and he remains Pokemon's mascot character for it.
Marth, though he hasn't appeared in recent Fire Emblem games, was the series first standout heroic protagonist, and so he deserves due representation for it. Lyn has appeared in, what, one game? And according to most, it sounds like that game was hardly on par with the rest of the series.
Pikachu's hardly got an important role in the newer games, but regardless, he was the lead, recognized character of what started it all, and he remains Pokemon's mascot character for it.
Marth, though he hasn't appeared in recent Fire Emblem games, was the series first standout heroic protagonist, and so he deserves due representation for it. Lyn has appeared in, what, one game? And according to most, it sounds like that game was hardly on par with the rest of the series.
ungulateman
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Most FE characters have only appeared in one game. That's why Marth (and Ike, IIRC) are so popular in Japan, they're in more than one FE game. FE is HUGE in Japan.
Red Arremer
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I like pie.
n88
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I'm not so sure about the lesser characters some people are supporting here. I would not want to see Waluigi or the babies in Smash Bros. 4. The only Mario characters I could see making it in are Bowser Jr. and Rosalina. King Boo and Toad are also possibilities, although somewhat more remote. I would love to see a Wolf Link, though. Or, on second thought Fawful would be awesome.
n88
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Fair enough, but last I checked Waluigi has only appeared in spin-offs. I guess the babies have appeared in one major game (that I know of). Of course, Waluigi or the babies could easily make an appearance in a major game before SSB4 comes out, as it's won't be out for several years.
SirKibble
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Yeah, well, I don't support Waluigi either. Bowser Jr.'s probably the most obvious choice for another Mario rep, since even if the Baby Mario Bros. were included, it would probably be as a Yoshi rep, since that's where they've had their most major appearances.
M15t3R E
Smash Master
In SSB4, I hope for characters like MK to get a serious nerfing, and for C. Falcon to be brought back to at least near his former glory. Addtionally, every Melee character should be brought back for SSB4, and all the Brawl characters be kept as well. Big freakin roster, I know.
Something very important is that they make SSB4 faster-paced, somewhere in between Brawl and Melee ideally.
Those are my hopes.
Something very important is that they make SSB4 faster-paced, somewhere in between Brawl and Melee ideally.
Those are my hopes.
I don't agree with the first part. I don't think MK needs to be nerfed at all. He is more towards the pace that I would like to see. Everybody else should be brought up to (at least) MK's level. I actually liked the overall base of the original a lot.
On another note, I was thinking about what made Lucario so cool to me and how that could be applied to SSB4. I think more characters should get more static abilities like Lucario (for those wo don't know what I'm talking about, Lucario gets more powerful as he takes damage). I heard an idea (it was either here or in MYM 3.0) for Mewtwo that would cause other players moves to become stale faster. Anybody else have any ideas? I'm out at the moment.
the_Capt_Falcon_Master
Smash Lord
baby mario has been in every yoshi's island game, and the baby bros. were in mario and luigi partners in time. just to clarify. Also i think they would work well as a double team a la the ice climbers. They could use their bro. moves from M&L: PIT.
notftomearth7
Smash Lord
Snake will not be a one hit wonder, let's make that clear right now.
AND NO CHARACTERS FROM OTHER FIGHTING GAMES! This takes away from the quality of the game.
AND NO CHARACTERS FROM OTHER FIGHTING GAMES! This takes away from the quality of the game.
Kiki52
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I am not very hopeful for any 3rd party fighting game characters to come into Smash, because Nintendo was angry at Capcom for losing Nintendo exclusivity. Also while Link was in Soul Calibur 2, I find it very unlikely that they'd bring in a Soul Calibur character into SSB4.
I do think one character whom Nintendo had that was from a Nintendo fighting game is Sukapon. He was in Nintendo's fighting game that was made even before Smash.
I'd love Ryu to come into SSB4 if he could. But one problem is that he uses a headband/bandana like Ike and Snake, so my trouble with him is that Kirby would be hard to find a hat for Ryu, Snake, and Ike and make them all look different. Although I suppose Ryu would have black hair, while Ike has blue hair.
Also, here is to hoping that the next FE lord will be different from Marth and Ike, in that I think it should be a female lord who uses either a spear or uses magic (like Micaiah) but uses Light magic and not something overdone like fire (which is ironic because Fire Emblem should have at least one character who uses fire don't you think?). Also hope that the new FE Lord will have another color besides blue hair. Maybe even green or slightly bluish green would be fine.
I do think one character whom Nintendo had that was from a Nintendo fighting game is Sukapon. He was in Nintendo's fighting game that was made even before Smash.
I'd love Ryu to come into SSB4 if he could. But one problem is that he uses a headband/bandana like Ike and Snake, so my trouble with him is that Kirby would be hard to find a hat for Ryu, Snake, and Ike and make them all look different. Although I suppose Ryu would have black hair, while Ike has blue hair.
Also, here is to hoping that the next FE lord will be different from Marth and Ike, in that I think it should be a female lord who uses either a spear or uses magic (like Micaiah) but uses Light magic and not something overdone like fire (which is ironic because Fire Emblem should have at least one character who uses fire don't you think?). Also hope that the new FE Lord will have another color besides blue hair. Maybe even green or slightly bluish green would be fine.
Big-Cat
Challenge accepted.
It'd be easy to do Ryu. Ike has the blue hair and headband, Snake has the beard, mullet, and head band, and Ryu would have the spiky black hair and red handband.
the_Capt_Falcon_Master
Smash Lord
that would then complete the manly-hair triforce. And the next smash would truly the best game ever. no question.
Big-Cat
Challenge accepted.
Speaking of Triforces, there are some more that can easily be completed.
Peach-Zelda-Kumatora
Triforce of Princesses
Captain Falcon-Captain Olimar-Captain Rainbow
Triforce of Manly Captains
Mario-Sonic-Crash
Triforce of Former Rivals
the_Capt_Falcon_Master
Smash Lord
you forgot:
gdorf-bowser-k rool
trifforce of evil
gdorf-bowser-k rool
trifforce of evil
marth69
Smash Cadet
they should put more people from mettle gear in!!!
the_Capt_Falcon_Master
Smash Lord
you mispelled metal....but yeah that would be cool i guess, i personally have never played a mgs game so i dont really know of anyone that would be good.
sniperfire
Smash Cadet
We NEED more 3rd party!
Though you may oppose it for some reason i do not know and will probably never find out, i would love to have more 3rd party characters!
Though you may oppose it for some reason i do not know and will probably never find out, i would love to have more 3rd party characters!
SirKibble
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You misspelled "misspelled."
Yeah, I've never played any of the MGS games, either, but Gray Fox, the Assist Trophy, seems like a viable character option.
Collective of Bears
King of Hug Style
You forgot Dedede and Wolf, which would make it the Feared 5.
darkserenade
Smash Ace
Collective of Bears
King of Hug Style
I don't think so. But I suppose that's a matter of opinion. Some would probably say the same about D3.
❀W.E.M.P.❀
Mote Of Dust
It'd be cool if they somehow pulled off kain highwind or something. FF has and still sometimes comes on nintendo systems so I don't think it's that far out. it'd make me happy
Linkshot
Smash Hero
I noticed way back that someone said Luigi should be taken out. That hurt me so much D:
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