infomon
Smash Scientist
Just DI down and immediately tech.
Thread: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=213568
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B_AWAL
Smash Master
Kinzer
Mammy
Sonic's D-Throw isn't not broken against people who are smart.
LOL way to link to the other thread 
steps 2 lurn:
1) get D-thrown by Sonic. Pay attention to the 3 hits (Sonic's D-throw is 3 hits).
2) get D-thrown by Sonic. Pay attention to the 3 hits and hold down, then pay attention to the "4th" hit (you getting thrown to the ground )
3) get D-thrown by Sonic. Pay attention to the rhythm of the 3 hits, hold down, and hit shield after the 3rd hit but before the 4th hit.
okay
steps 2 lurn:
1) get D-thrown by Sonic. Pay attention to the 3 hits (Sonic's D-throw is 3 hits).
2) get D-thrown by Sonic. Pay attention to the 3 hits and hold down, then pay attention to the "4th" hit (you getting thrown to the ground )
3) get D-thrown by Sonic. Pay attention to the rhythm of the 3 hits, hold down, and hit shield after the 3rd hit but before the 4th hit.
okay
Kinzer
Mammy
I won't believe that until I see a video of it being done.
I took no part in the birth of that tech, it was all a terrible dream.
Chis
Finally a legend
Why? It's not that hard to understand, so why bother?
Nixernator
Smash Ace
So guys, I have lots of trouble with peach. And I was wondering how Bair/Nair stack up to her Dair/Fair, priority and range wise. Since I just can't seem to get around the air camping.
Thanks guys.
Edit: And while I'm here, I'm going to ask what are some ways of really speeding up my Sonic and using his speed to build pressure on the opponent? Like Espy's sonic for example just seems really fast, whereas mine seems kind of slow.
Thanks guys.
Edit: And while I'm here, I'm going to ask what are some ways of really speeding up my Sonic and using his speed to build pressure on the opponent? Like Espy's sonic for example just seems really fast, whereas mine seems kind of slow.
Chis
Finally a legend
Bair is much better at spacing them Nair. You can up tilt out of shield between each dair. SDI up and ways from Peach's dair and they to spring out. If you can manage to get under her, Uair > her Dair.
Umby
Smash Master
I personally think the explanation on teching dthrow is overcomplicated. I just wait to see when I "pop up" from the last hit, and tech then.
B_AWAL
Smash Master
Mindgamez :-O
Dragonbreath
Smash Ace
Wait...I'm confused. Is the Dthrow tech real or isn't it?
Umby
Smash Master
Yes, the dthrow tech is real.
chaoechidna
Smash Apprentice
Question: Quick edge guard with sonic?
Hey, I was watching a few vids of Malcolm and I was wondering... How the heck does he edge guard that quickly? I'm not sure what the technique is to do that, but if anyone could let me know, that'd be awesome. There's been so many times where I could have used it, if I just knew how...
Hey, I was watching a few vids of Malcolm and I was wondering... How the heck does he edge guard that quickly? I'm not sure what the technique is to do that, but if anyone could let me know, that'd be awesome. There's been so many times where I could have used it, if I just knew how...
Kinzer
Mammy
Instant ledgegrabbing?
That' easy once you understand how to do it, just simply go off the stage from the ledge, fastfall, and then move the D-Pad towards the ledge so you snap on to it.
P.S. the Down-Throw tech is still just a bad dream to me.
That' easy once you understand how to do it, just simply go off the stage from the ledge, fastfall, and then move the D-Pad towards the ledge so you snap on to it.
P.S. the Down-Throw tech is still just a bad dream to me.
chaoechidna
Smash Apprentice
Hey Kinzer, thank you. I got it to work... but now I realize I really suck at making it work. Is there any trick to doing it easier? Like if I held diagonal down or something? I can't get it to work all the time, only a little less than half of the time. Obviously, that wouldn't be good for a match.. So any tricks to instant ledgegrab? Besides the obvious method...? Thanks!
choose your terminology, all of these are the same thing, really.
on the edge: HCB
on the edge: 624
on the edge: forward - down - back
on the edge: run off - fastfall - hold towards stage
if you wanna practice, try rolling to the edge first, then doing it.
then practice doing it out of full dash (if you don't have amazing reflexes, prime yourself to do it right before he gets to the edge)
on the edge: HCB
on the edge: 624
on the edge: forward - down - back
on the edge: run off - fastfall - hold towards stage
if you wanna practice, try rolling to the edge first, then doing it.
then practice doing it out of full dash (if you don't have amazing reflexes, prime yourself to do it right before he gets to the edge)
chaoechidna
Smash Apprentice
Thanks Tenki, Kinzer! I'll have to work on it.
Kinzer
Mammy
Mhm.
Thanks Tenki for covering my a**. :D >.>
Thanks Tenki for covering my a**. :D >.>
darkNES386
Smash Lord
What do you struggle with against R.O.B.? Approach MK but bait him into attacking. If you want to go in guns blazing then usmash or any well spaced aerial should work. Don't dash attack. If he likes to spot dodge then stop in front of him and use ftilt.
darkNES386
Smash Lord
Not double post John (check date)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-asLo-4YNas&feature=related <--- why does sonic sound so different in this? Listen when he does a fsmash or anything actually with his voice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-asLo-4YNas&feature=related <--- why does sonic sound so different in this? Listen when he does a fsmash or anything actually with his voice.
Nixernator
Smash Ace
How does a hypen smash stack up against gliding opponents? from a midrange-longrange distance.
Ie a char is gliding at you probably from off the edge and will probably attack when you get in range, so you run underneath and use Usmash's slide and invincy frames to hit them?
Ie a char is gliding at you probably from off the edge and will probably attack when you get in range, so you run underneath and use Usmash's slide and invincy frames to hit them?
~TBS~
Smash Champion
well, yeah that could work. the only problem is that the infzy frams are very short. it could be very hard to time this, and if the usmash ends up missing, you will eat a gliding attack. there are more safer options you could use against the gliding foes, though. For example, you could bait them into attacking then punish the ending lag of the glide attack while they fall down.
Tenki had a guide on what to do against gliding enemies. here is part of it, i think...
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Glide attack clangs with every single one of Sonic's aerials, so the only way to beat it is to have an aerial with multiple hits.
DON'T TRY TO SHIELD GRAB GLIDE ATTACKS IF THE OPPONENTS HAS ANY OUNCE OF SPACING ABILITY.
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
If your opponent is gliding, smile and F-air.
the only glide attack that clangs with Sonic's moves is MK's lol.
Pit and Charizard beat it.
Okay, well, Pit's does. I never see other people (than me) use Charizard's glide attack so I wouldn't know for sure. However, it doesn't have MK's properties so it should beat out Sonic's.
Pit and Charizard beat it.
Okay, well, Pit's does. I never see other people (than me) use Charizard's glide attack so I wouldn't know for sure. However, it doesn't have MK's properties so it should beat out Sonic's.
RenegadeRaven
Smash Ace
Ok, how does the range of Sonic's Ftilt compare to Marth's Fair?
Cause, I was wondering if we sheild a fair, will we be able to poke Marth with a Ftilt before the next one comes out? Is our Ftilt even fast enough? =o?
Cause, I was wondering if we sheild a fair, will we be able to poke Marth with a Ftilt before the next one comes out? Is our Ftilt even fast enough? =o?
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
If he spaces correctly and tippers our shield, we slide too far. Try IDA or something.
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I was wondering if you guys have any tips on preforming an easier Spin Shot with the SD. Anytime I want to use the Spin Shot I use the ASC + C-Stick in the direction Sonic is facing and it never fails. I'm so used to doing it that way that I taught myself how to not FF while I'm doing that move. Then I read the Sonic guides and learned that you can Spin Shot out of a SD but I'm not quite getting the timing correct for it. I wanted to ask if you guys knew a different or easier way to do the Spin Shot out of the SD since the way I preform a Spin Shot is not listed in any of the guides I've read so far. (Sorry for slightly repeating myself)
Kinzer
Mammy
Just don't try to use the C-Stick to propel yourself forward as soon as you initiate a SpinDash, there's some window of time before you can use the SDSS, or otherwise you might end up accidentally jump-canceling/VSDJing.
~TBS~
Smash Champion
Been doing this for a while, need confirmation
At low %'s, Sonic combos are the coolest things. But, this isnt a combo per se, just something to do.
If i bair at low % into grab, is the grab inescapable? I have done this to a lot of people, and they seem to get caught by it. I just want confirmation on this.
At low %'s, Sonic combos are the coolest things. But, this isnt a combo per se, just something to do.
If i bair at low % into grab, is the grab inescapable? I have done this to a lot of people, and they seem to get caught by it. I just want confirmation on this.
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Then I posted videos of me doing it >_>
And no one really said anything ;_;
I said months ago in Kojin's thread that Sourspot Bair can combo into grab and ftilt at low percents >_>
Then I posted videos of me doing it >_>
And no one really said anything ;_;
Hey Jaybee, I have videos up of me doing some grab-throw shenanigans.
Here's a taste.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8ZTPHxHG64&feature=channel_page
1:36-1:41
-44% damage was dealt there, thanks to the sourspot Bair.
Speaking of which, people should use sourspot (SS) Bair. It's ridiculously awesome. Especially at low percents, because you can do what I did in that video...lol
SS Bair (Must be FF) > Input Run > Grab + Throw of Choice.
If you connect with a SS Bair close to the ground, and input a run + grab immediatly upon landing...it's a guaranteed grab. Not too sure if this is known already, but it's so ****.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFK8BiX8TmI&feature=channel_page
0:25-0:30
-Not as good as the last one, but still shows exactly what I'm referring to.
Kinzer
Mammy
I usually just FTilt/DA out of a sourspot (or maybe not) Bair at low %ages.
I already knew and I didn't know if anybody else did, so I didn't want to repeat old info.
We gotta get futuristic.
I already knew and I didn't know if anybody else did, so I didn't want to repeat old info.
We gotta get futuristic.
~TBS~
Smash Champion
no, i meant a spot on bair. i think you just answered my question, but still. I find myself getting this in on people, not a sourspot.I said months ago in Kojin's thread that Sourspot Bair can combo into grab and ftilt at low percents >_>
Then I posted videos of me doing it >_>
And no one really said anything ;_;
Chis
Finally a legend
How do I plank with Sonic?
Browny
Smash Hater
go under the stage
press b
???
get DQ'd?
press b
???
get DQ'd?
Kinzer
Mammy
I find Uair to do a really good job of hitting people above, but otherwise you don't can't plank with Sonic.
You can also do Side-B to jump-canceled Bair if you wish, though you better hope you don't have to use the Spring since as you would obviously know this takes your jump.
You can also do Side-B to jump-canceled Bair if you wish, though you better hope you don't have to use the Spring since as you would obviously know this takes your jump.
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
CP MK the next match, which I know is not a problem for you.