Getting Leffen mad is something that absolutely everyone can enjoy though so there's no reason not to do it.
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You shouldn't post to please others. Post what you believe and damn what others think of your reputation. If you self-censor your posts for general acceptance, then your reputation is fraudulent because it's based on someone with different opinions than your own.Agreed. Why am I being watched? D: I've come to the conclusion that because of the underlying competitive theme in SWF, it will never be possible to please everyone, especially the people you might be compared to. (ex: I'm pretty sure I can get Leffen mad just by mentioning Yoshi at this point :/ ) Oh well. New goal: Be -generally- well received.
Also, I appreciate the sincere posts, Kage.
No, you just don't know what you're talking about a lot of the time and your points are poorly fleshed out and/or superficial. I can cite the Falcon vs Fox thing for an example. There are probably more but that one is the most standout. To your credit, it's easy to extract incorrect information from your posts because they're well written. That said, the analysis is still poor for the most part.I guess I've been deemed irrational because I don't agree with the status quo. lol
stop editing your post, I've seen it change like 9 times now
i've missed you.Getting Leffen mad is something that absolutely everyone can enjoy though so there's no reason not to do it.
I have no problem with people challenging my posts. That's half the reason I post my opinions in the first place. It's the scientific method applied to Melee theory. I'd be lying if I said your response to my Falcon vs. Fox post completely changed my mind as if I had "seen the light", but it certainly brought up things I hadn't considered or hadn't considered fully or looked at the same thing I looked at from a different perspective. Over time these ideas seep into people and then before you know it, I notice something while playing that relates back to what you were saying and BOOM, I've learned something. Hopefully you can learn the same sort of nuance through my posts even if they are less educated than yours (and I by no means expect you to learn as much from me as I will from you).No, you just don't know what you're talking about a lot of the time and your points are poorly fleshed out and/or superficial. I can cite the Falcon vs Fox thing for an example. There are probably more but that one is the most standout. To your credit, it's easy to extract incorrect information from your posts because they're well written. That said, the analysis is still poor for the most part.
I don't want you to think I hate you. Quite the opposite - I am happy there are people like you who play this game. Radical thinkers are useful because they are way more likely to ask questions that people like me won't bother to simply because I view them as pointless or trivial (but sometimes they may have merit). This is especially useful when character power changes and such and old people like me who hate change take a conservative stance on the matter.
That said, if you're going to tell me some of your post's contents (and a frighteningly large amount of them, at that) hold their water when analyzed in a more cohesive way than what you were doing (I can say that, again, because of the Falcon vs Fox evaluation) then I'm going to simply leave this conversation because we've reached an impasse.
a college mathematics professor tells you that .9999... equals 1john you are right about the first part but dumb for the second part
Obviously you should believe the first opinion in all of your examples,a college mathematics professor tells you that .9999... equals 1
a twelve year old tells you that .9999... is less than 1
who should you rationally believe?
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a literary critic tells you that don quixote is the greatest book ever written
a teenage girl tells you that twilight is the greatest book ever written
who should you rationally believe?
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you think you're not an idiot
cactuar thinks you're an idiot
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yeah but neither of those random dudes has any credentialsObviously you should believe the first opinion in all of your examples,but because of the information itself, not because of who's saying it. To make this more clear - in what you said, if you change it to:especially the third one,
"some random dude off the street tells you that .9999... equals 1
some random dude off the street tells you that .9999... is less than 1
who should you rationally believe?
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some random dude off the street tells you that don quixote is the greatest book ever written
some random dude off the street tells you that twilight is the greatest book ever written
who should you rationally believe?"
I would pick the first in both cases anyways. So as you can see, the person saying it is irrelevant to my choice, so the fact that I would believe the college professor/literary critic in your scenarios does not support your argument at all. Truly awful examples. You can't honestly be this dumb.
so you wouldn't be able to tell me if antarctica exists? or if atoms exist? or if the titanic was an actual ship that actually sunk?Personally, I would only answer if I could. I would not base myself on others unless I actually knew how to do it myself if not it's just empty conjecture.
But, I SDI all the time.....Only knowing what you need to know at that moment isn't practical or smart, nor is having to set up scientific experiments to reprove common knowledge that may be taught and then built upon if the source is credible. You archive useful knowledge because not only is there a good chance it will be useful one day, but it gives you a better understanding of the world as a whole, which is practical and useful in all outlets of life.
If you don't know the thing in the first place, you may not even realize how knowing it would be useful. Think about SDI. It isn't practical in most cases to say "I'll SDI this on reaction" as a legit strategy, but understanding how SDI works will prepare you for that day you're having trouble with Fox's uair even if you never had previously.
Pretty ignorant thing to say IMO.I wouldn't care unless it was relevant for me or helpful along the way of my path. Knowing these types of things is absolutely useless. It's empty knowledge unless you can actually use it in someway.
You would've died a million times over in the Harry Potter universe.I wouldn't care unless it was relevant for me or helpful along the way of my path. Knowing these types of things is absolutely useless. It's empty knowledge unless you can actually use it in someway.
Yes but that's because it's useful in the sense that if you want to be really really good at smash then you need to know everything and then you can use every tool to your advantage. Why the hell would I need to know for example Dante can do combos in MvC 3, it's completely out of the way of what im doing right now and it will very very likely be useless information for the future because I wont play the game. Why the hell do people feel the need to fill their heads with knowledge when 99% of the stuff you learn won't be used at all. I would look how I can improve myself and look towards the inside rather than learning BS and then in the end not accomplishing much at all.Only knowing what you need to know at that moment isn't practical or smart, nor is having to set up scientific experiments to reprove common knowledge that may be taught and then built upon if the source is credible. You archive useful knowledge because not only is there a good chance it will be useful one day, but it gives you a better understanding of the world as a whole, which is practical and useful in all outlets of life.
If you don't know the thing in the first place, you may not even realize how knowing it would be useful. Think about SDI. It isn't practical in most cases to say "I'll SDI this on reaction" as a legit strategy, but understanding how SDI works will prepare you for that day you're having trouble with Fox's uair even if you never had previously.
Ya, well, IMO... Saying someone is ignorant is most likely also an ignorant thing to say.Pretty ignorant thing to say IMO.
Ya right, because I know that I would need to know magic to survive in that universe, and ill definitely be an elite magic user if I was actually a mage just like im a strong warrior. My ability can reflect in anything I do.You would've died a million times over in the Harry Potter universe.
GEEZ.
this is rather reductiveVan. said:any matchup where you can kill them off one read at 40 can't be THAT bad
I've been trying to practice as of late, if you're going to ROM, I hope to see you there <3Spacies are popular because they have the most options and they're cool. They can play superficially non-gay styles effectively and have a reputation for being able to do whatever they want, basically. The badboy top level player also uses him and everyone wants to be Mango to some degree. From a "I want to switch to space animal and I'm a competitive player" standpoint, they have the option fluidity to transition cleanly and effectively so they have the best combat mixups and a really unique first hit game. They also have the control tools to set the pace of the match, so you can play to your comfort zone (defensive characters just respond to and adjust to the offensive player so they're rarely in control of the tempo). In short, spacies are fun. They **** people fast and people like to do that.
Regarding the second bit... there were Sheiks. But most of the decent ones quit or semi-retired (Tec0, Tope, Lucien, Drephen, Reno, etc) and the remaining ones are just up & comers who haven't quite broken out yet (Tafo, SilentSwag, ZoSo, JoeJoe, etc).
In North America, since like over half our entire character base quit for the real world, it's really just me and M2K right now at the top, and then a huge skill gap to the mid level ones (no offense). We don't have much of a gradation anymore. That said, there's some potential in Europe. I feel Ice, Amsah (but he's not going to APEX 2013 sigh), and Overtriforce are solid and might be the support we need to break out as a top tier character again (Sheik's gonna do well at APEX 2013 IMO).
Maybe if you understood how Dante combos in MvC it would give you an idea for innovation in Melee. Maybe his combos are a direct results of a certain type of defensive or aggressive play that can be noticed in all humans, but is particularly easy to see in MvC because he capitalizes on it so well. This niche of human behavior could be affecting all of your matches in Melee, and you might not even know it because Melee's engine might not make the advantage gained as obvious.Why the hell would I need to know for example Dante can do combos in MvC 3, it's completely out of the way of what im doing right now and it will very very likely be useless information for the future because I wont play the game. Why the hell do people feel the need to fill their heads with knowledge when 99% of the stuff you learn won't be used at all. I would look how I can improve myself and look towards the inside rather than learning BS and then in the end not accomplishing much at all.
I said in my post that you should still have direction. I was just saying you can't be so averse to acquiring knowledge not directly related to Melee because it will hurt your improvement in the long run. Just because I apply general principles from other games and life experiences doesn't mean I'm no longer playing Melee. Your last sentence basically sums up the goal of learning unrelated knowledge: to mature your mindset. Someone's mindset is going to evolve much faster and further if they have experienced many different things than someone who focuses linearly on a single subject. It's the difference between knowing facts and wisdom.Bones, you still need a direction how to focus your wisdom on what you learned. Learning stuff in fighting games doesn't help me for anything.. it's the life of the tournament which made me a much stronger person which I can then use for other things I want to do. If you can really translate what you learn from another fighting game to melee then you wont even be playing Melee anymore, you'd hax the **** out of it lol. The physics themselves dont help you at all, it's your own mindset that changes.