Official MBR 2010 NTSC Tier List

[john!]

Anyway John's second example is bad just because all propositions of the form "x is the greatest book ever written" have no truth value because they are subjective. So the fact that an authority tells you that something is the greatest book ever written obviously doesn't give you any reason to believe that he is right.

there MUST objectively be a greatest book ever written, unless you believe that all books have the exact same value.

 

[Theftz22]

I don't believe that any of them have an objective value, though everyone assigns them different subjective values.

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

Greatest book ever written is Green Eggs and Ham

 

[Crooked Crow]

Greatest book ever written is Green Eggs and Ham

I somewhat agree with this.

 

[Bones0]

there MUST objectively be a greatest book ever written, unless you believe that all books have the exact same value.

So... much... circular logic... *gasp*

 

[Divinokage]

I said in my post that you should still have direction. I was just saying you can't be so averse to acquiring knowledge not directly related to Melee because it will hurt your improvement in the long run. Just because I apply general principles from other games and life experiences doesn't mean I'm no longer playing Melee. Your last sentence basically sums up the goal of learning unrelated knowledge: to mature your mindset. Someone's mindset is going to evolve much faster and further if they have experienced many different things than someone who focuses linearly on a single subject. It's the difference between knowing facts and wisdom.

Are you sure about that? Not everyone works the same, thats why I said YOU have to find what unlocks your own potential, look within.. it's not outside knowledge that's going to help with that.

Someone can spend their whole lives trying to understand the universe but it will be a waste of a life in the end. It's impossible to figure it out, it's a paradox to begin with.

 

[JPOBS]

kage did you go to college?
if you did, what as your major?

 

[Pink Reaper]

It hurts to say this but bones is completely r.... He's completely ri.....he's right.

Oh god I just threw up on my keyboard.

 

[Divinokage]

kage did you go to college?
if you did, what as your major?

I did computer science for a while until it didn't really interest me. Why do you ask?

 

[JPOBS]

trying to reason out the origin behind your warrior spirit

 

[Pink Reaper]

trying to reason out the origin behind your warrior spirit

You ever read Naruto? There you go.

 

[Divinokage]

trying to reason out the origin behind your warrior spirit

Well I can't really reason why I would like combat, heavy armors, swords and pitting yourself against your opponents in the first place. I guess it's just a love I always had just didnt realize it until I got older.. but what spawned the need to get stronger in the first place was probably because of my dark school days where I got picked on a lot from elementary to end of high school. It wasn't until the end that people stopped bothering me. They stopped when I threw a desk on the wall in class and broke it in pieces with the fiery look in my eyes.. I terrified everybody. Can you imagine 10-11 years of built up rage? Luckily, I didn't hurt anybody.

But then at 19-20, I learned about the modern ways how to live like a warrior I suppose. Read the Peaceful Warrior by Dan Millman at some point, it's awesome. Only from that point where I really started having some purpose in my life.

You ever read Naruto? There you go.

*Shakes head* It eventually always get brought out but no I told you I had this since childhood but that kind of awakening came more in my adolescence.

 

[Anand]

there MUST objectively be a greatest book ever written, unless you believe that all books have the exact same value.

This assumes there is a total ordering on books' values.

 

[Bones0]

But then at 19-20, I learned about the modern ways how to live like a warrior I suppose. Read the Peaceful Warrior by Dan Millman at some point, it's awesome. Only from that point where I really started having some purpose in my life.

So an outside source of wisdom helped you realize something within. That's what I was talking about!

 

[The Good Doctor]

Greatest book ever written is Green Eggs and Ham

The story behind that book is lmao

 

[Stevo]

.. but what spawned the need to get stronger in the first place was probably because of my dark school days where I got picked on a lot from elementary to end of high school. It wasn't until the end that people stopped bothering me. They stopped when I threw a desk on the wall in class and broke it in pieces with the fiery look in my eyes.. I terrified everybody. Can you imagine 10-11 years of built up rage? Luckily, I didn't hurt anybody.

This happened to one of my good friends throughout school.
He was actually the tallest and biggest guy up until about 10th grade (but he was still pretty big even in high school).
One day he snapped and did Mario's back throw to this one small guy.

10 year rage toss.

It's kind of funny now, but it was serious **** back then.

 

[Divinokage]

So an outside source of wisdom helped you realize something within. That's what I was talking about!

Well ya but again it was relevant on my path to begin with, you follow the road you love! Didn't you have enough proof that many many people can't understand my views or what I've learned in life? It's probably a little outside the normal already and I'm not sure some people are willing to step out their comfort zone in order to learn awesome stuff. Who really wants to be a modern warrior right now? That kind of stuff is often irrelevant for others. But there's still definitely good **** in there that anyone can use. Like for example instead of eating to satiate your hunger, you eat very slowly to actually enjoy the food you are eating and you really try to feel how the whole process happens when the food goes down your throat to your stomach. These kinds of things needs a lot of training too and sensitivity. You can make your whole daily needs / routine a new adventure which in turn gives you a lot of pleasure. It's also a big reason why Im capable of being rarely bored and very happy in general... not just the food but everything I do. Being a warrior takes away the automatic reactions of your daily life and makes everything into conscious actions.. even breathing, even typing on my keyboard right now. It was very hard and annoying at first but after a while it started to make my days very bright and shiny lol.

This is where all the magic happens and the reason why I can feel awesome things now since I've been doing this for 7 years now.

This happened to one of my good friends throughout school.
He was actually the tallest and biggest guy up until about 10th grade (but he was still pretty big even in high school).
One day he snapped and did Mario's back throw to this one small guy.

10 year rage toss.

It's kind of funny now, but it was serious **** back then.

Oh ya it's definitely serious, but man it felt good... lol. That release and then peace finally.. No one bothered me anymore! =D

 

[Blistering Speed]

Well I can't really reason why I would like combat, heavy armors, swords and pitting yourself against your opponents in the first place. I guess it's just a love I always had just didnt realize it until I got older.. but what spawned the need to get stronger in the first place was probably because of my dark school days where I got picked on a lot from elementary to end of high school. It wasn't until the end that people stopped bothering me. They stopped when I threw a desk on the wall in class and broke it in pieces with the fiery look in my eyes.. I terrified everybody. Can you imagine 10-11 years of built up rage? Luckily, I didn't hurt anybody.

The pieces are coming together.

 

[Divinokage]

Well perhaps it was the right time to say all this. Im sure some can relate to similar stories and I really tried to stay true and give proper reasoning to why things are they are now. I can say for sure that in young days, I was an empty shell.

 

[Purpletuce]

Isn't that what being a child means? All of them are useless little pricks who scream an **** their pants. Becoming an adult means recovering from such a sickness.

 

[Boat Mode]

Phone

 

[odinNJ]

No, childhood is the greatest time in life, in childhood everything is magical.








and you dont have to worry about grades/jobs

 

[KrIsP!]

^Truth, but some children are pains. Regardless, I have kept my inner child alive and that's the reason we're all here and to say that we're recovering from such a sickness would mean we're in denial.

 

[Divinokage]

There's a simple rule, first assure your survival.. when you do then follow your dreams! The reason why I kept my childhood dream is because I always thought these kinds of dreams are pure and not influenced in anyway by what you could've been taught from your parents or even society like for example that you have to be a great doctor when you get older type of deal. It's the kind of dream where you aren't forced to follow the general rules of having to go to school, study like crazy and then get an awesome paying job. I'm not saying it's always wrong following it like this it's just that it could be if you havent done enough research on yourself.

 

[john!]

step 1: survive
step 2: follow dream
if you are about to stop surviving: go to step 1

i think i've got it now

 

[Divinokage]

Well if you have no money or barely enough to get by, how can you really do what you want? =) You wont even be able to go smash tourneys at the minimum.

 

[john!]

maybe one of my dreams is to have lots of money??

CHECKMATE

 

[FrootLoop]

or if your dream is to have barely enough money to get by

 

[Divinokage]

Then roll with money if you want!!

 

[Boat Mode]

SWED

done.

 

[KrIsP!]

So.. Tier list stuff. It is missing from this page.

 

[Strong Badam]

Falco
Fox
Sheik
Marth
Puff
Peach
Falcon
ICs
Doc
Pikachu
Ganon/Samus
Luigi
Mario

 

[Pink Reaper]

You forgot DK

 

[Divinokage]

Ganon is as good as Doc. =)

 

[Beat!]

S
Fox
Marth
Sheik
Falco
Puff

A
Peach
Falcon
ICs

B
Doc
Pika
Samus
Ganon/Luigi
Yoshi/Mario

 

[Purpletuce]

^I hope you're kidding. Falco . . . #4? Falco would be a viable #4 is he didn't have any B moves

Here's this noob's list:

Falco
Fox

Sheik
Puff
Marth
Peach
Falcon
I.C.

<characters I don't know well enough to talk about>

 

[KrIsP!]

Marth eh? Care to back that one up, personally I hate Marth because he can just space properly and wall me out and it poses a personal issue...but I don't think he can do that to falco. Unless your trolling. Your probably trolling.

 

[JPOBS]

S
Fox
Marth
Sheik
Falco
Puff

A
Peach
Falcon
ICs

B
Doc
Pika
Samus
Ganon/Luigi
Yoshi/Mario

Europe is so silly.

 

[Beat!]

No, I'm not joking, Purpletuce.

Krisp, I don't know what kind of thing a "probably trolling" is, but I don't possess one, so there's no need to finish that sentence in case you were planning to.

And I think Marth's better than Falco because I think his matchup spread is better. Simple as that.

 

[Purpletuce]

Are you. . . Pal? I don't know anything about Pal. . . but that might explain it? :\