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[Spyro]

Rumble just messes me up when I turn it on.

 

[S l o X]

Anyone know what programs work with EasyCap?

 

[Delaro]

Is there a new tier list/matchup list coming soon?

 

[Strong Badam]

Anyone know what programs work with EasyCap?

I use VirtualDub. Should work for just about any device.

 

[Bl@ckChris]

does grab outspace shines?

specifically falcons and ganon's grab.

i already know marths does lol.

 

[Strong Badam]

if you grab them on the same frame their shine hits your hurtbox, your grab will win.

 

[S l o X]

I use VirtualDub. Should work for just about any device.

downloading now, thanks.

and yea, grab > everything afaik.

 

[Pi]

Frame 0) Input dash ->
Frame 1 or 2) Dash ->
Frame 2 or 3) dash <-
Frame 3 or 4+) moonwalk

go test this, and see if u can get a moonwalk by dashing the direction ur facing, then dashing the other direction the frame after

i'm like 99% certain this works, tested in ar, and was able to replicate (albeit rarely) in real time

if this is common knowledge then forgive me but i never knew lol

u have like no momentum though

omg it's related....


also does anyone know the shieldhitstun scaling with light shields?

 

[Bl@ckChris]

well with fox, sometimes i'll just flick the stick one direction, without actually running that way. it gives the dash animation without really going anywhere. then i dash in the other direction...can't really explain it...

it's more like i'm walking one direction, flick the stick in the other direction, and then try to run back before the dash animation is done. it basically acts like a moonwalk. idk if its the same thing you're talking about though.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Frame 0) Input dash ->
Frame 1 or 2) Dash ->
Frame 2 or 3) dash <-
Frame 3 or 4+) moonwalk

go test this, and see if u can get a moonwalk by dashing the direction ur facing, then dashing the other direction the frame after

i'm like 99% certain this works, tested in ar, and was able to replicate (albeit rarely) in real time

if this is common knowledge then forgive me but i never knew lol

u have like no momentum though

omg it's related....


also does anyone know the shieldhitstun scaling with light shields?

yep its a perfect moonwalk... I remember trolling the falcon boards not too long ago telling them not to even learn the roll method, just press left then right 1 frame apart.

 

[Pi]

mann u already did that? that was my first thought too...

 

[Bl@ckChris]

is a moves ability to "wobble" with a teammates grab the same as being able to reset?

or is that a different property altogether? and if so, what strength move is necessary to knock out of a grab?

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

You can wobble with peach's dsmash. You can't reset with peach's dsmash. There is a formula behind what knocks through a grab, but i dont remember off the top of my head

 

[Bl@ckChris]

seriously? dsmash won't pull people out of grabs?

wild....

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Yeah, its not really an effective wobbling move, but its sure racks up dmg fast lol

 

[ShroudedOne]

That reminds me. Does Peach have a PC edge hog? If so, what's the timing?

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Everyone has a PC edgehog you just gotta ask PC

 

[Bl@ckChris]

you'd probably have to pivot dash to do a pc type thing. peach doesn't really keep momentum during her walk when she turns around. when she stops walking she...just stops walking.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

It doesn't matter how much you practice if you don't accept PC into your heart.

 

[joejoe22802]

So what is the input for Buffered Upsmash OOS.
Also I was just wondering how different characters like to deal with Falco Lasers.

 

[ShroudedOne]

Peach = float
Jiggs = duck or jump over them
Other characters = struggle

 

[Bl@ckChris]

other characters try to not let falco shoot lasers.

or powershield them back.

or find very quick ways to change what height they're at.

 

[Strong Badam]

when falco lasers I just lose

 

[Spyro]

What is a shield drop? I’ve heard the phrase before but I don’t actually know what it means.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

It could either mean you drop your shield

or more likely dropping through a platform while in your shield

 

[Bones0]

What is a shield drop? I’ve heard the phrase before but I don’t actually know what it means.

Shield Drop

Other platform ****

Application, courtesy of your's truly:

 

[GhllieShdeKnife]

is there anyway to lightshield a shield drop i dont see any difference when i do it

 

[Strong Badam]

if you grab them on the same frame their shine hits your hurtbox, your grab will win.

um what the **** are you talking about strong bad shine is invincible frame 1, it would win.

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

^ man strong bad u dont know anything compared to strong bad

 

[AXE 09]

Strong Bad just put Strong Bad on blast lol

 

[Sinji]

What program is the best for recording vids like the one ajpanton uses?

 

[Strong Badam]

He and I both use VirtualDub

 

[Sangoku]

Hello,

I asked in the Falco thread, since I want to main Falco, but if you have tips with other chars as well, I'd be glad =). Here's a copy paste of a part of my post:

There was just this one guy's Doc who I couldn't beat. His main strategy was full hop pill, dash attack. I read in the falco matchup thread that I could dash below the pill, but he's throwing it when he's still quite far, so I don't have time to run below. The dash attack on its own is dumb, since I can wavedash backwards-> punish (which I sometimes succeeded), but not when he first throws a pill. This is when I let him approach.

If I try to approach with SHL, he would cape it so I get stopped. And when I land a nair on his shield, I get shieldgrabbed before I can shine.

Now in close-range game he would mainly grab, dsmash and usmash. I feel these attacks are kinda quick and hard to dodge.

So if you have any idea on another character I should pick who would work well against such a Doc?

Thanks!

 

[AXE 09]

Hello,

I asked in the Falco thread, since I want to main Falco, but if you have tips with other chars as well, I'd be glad =). Here's a copy paste of a part of my post:

There was just this one guy's Doc who I couldn't beat. His main strategy was full hop pill, dash attack. I read in the falco matchup thread that I could dash below the pill, but he's throwing it when he's still quite far, so I don't have time to run below. The dash attack on its own is dumb, since I can wavedash backwards-> punish (which I sometimes succeeded), but not when he first throws a pill. This is when I let him approach.

If I try to approach with SHL, he would cape it so I get stopped. And when I land a nair on his shield, I get shieldgrabbed before I can shine.

Now in close-range game he would mainly grab, dsmash and usmash. I feel these attacks are kinda quick and hard to dodge.

So if you have any idea on another character I should pick who would work well against such a Doc?

Thanks!

Keep in mind that you can attack through the pill. So you could do a running SH Dair/Nair approach for an offensive option, a backwards drifting Nair/Dair for a defensive option, or simply jab/Ftilt the pill to remain in a neutral position.

 

[Sangoku]

Yeah, but if I nair forward, I'm still too far to touch him and he gets me just when I land. So I often go back and end up by the ledge. =(

Thanks for answering btw.

 

[Bl@ckChris]

what happens if you camp top platform and hit him in the head?

 

[Sangoku]

We played on FD =P

 

[Pi]

i would probably ban fd in that matchup lol

cape, pills, chain grabs

 

[Sangoku]

Oh so FD isn't good? I went there on my own =P. Maybe I should have said that I was a beginner lol.

What character would be good against Doc on FD?

 

[Pi]

marth probably, can swat away pills and i think it's a not a good matchup for doc any way
doc is usually pretty good on FD though, his pills are hard to deal with once he gets them out there