Dragoon Fighter
Smash Lord
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I know but I wished more detailed info on all the banned stages, including the completely obvious ones.
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john!
Smash Hero
Kanelol
Smash Lord
i knew there was a thread exactly like that
Alphazealot for prez
why is falcon better than luigi at moonwalking
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genkaku
Guest
Because he's more manly. Duh.
Geist
Smash Master
Doesn't it have something to do with the initial dash animation, and nothing to do with traction?
Which is why Link and Zelda can do it easily.
Does anyone actually know specifically why moonwalking works at all?
Which is why Link and Zelda can do it easily.
Does anyone actually know specifically why moonwalking works at all?
TheGoat
Smash Ace
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Hey, I was wondering if there are any statistics, like on how many people play melee, or even brawl.
Such as, how many active falco mains are there, either melee or brawl. Or how many active players in total? I'm just trying to get a grasp on some info for ssbm, thanks.
Such as, how many active falco mains are there, either melee or brawl. Or how many active players in total? I'm just trying to get a grasp on some info for ssbm, thanks.
Pi
Smash Hero
we'd have to determine what is 'active' first
TheGoat
Smash Ace
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You are correct. I was thinking, maybe at least a few hours a week of play with other people. Even so, is there any way to know?
Also, does anybody know how many people total there have been at big smash events such as genesis and apex?
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pound had 600 some people, and that would simply be a fraction of the community.
Kanelol
Smash Lord
I asked this before and never got an answer :\
Opening animation thing would make sense a little bit, because Falcon's opening dash is super duper fast
mers
Smash Ace
I always assumed that it was because moving the control stick gives your character momentum, but the turnaround that is characteristic of dashdancing is only triggered by moving the stick through the middle. So the momentum is added without the turnaround.
But that doesn't really explain anything.
But that doesn't really explain anything.
Kanelol
Smash Lord
it's just a programming glitch
right
right
DippnDots
Feral Youth
It's the Slingshot Effect, haven't you ever seen Armageddon with Bruce Willis and Liv Tyler?
I have no problem l-cancelling fastfalled aerials, but when I don't FF them (like with a low uair from falcon) I can't get the timing down. Also sometimes I miss the fastfall and then mess up the l-cancel (like when I do a rising dair with Marth). I just can't get the timing down with non ff-ed aerials. Is there a timing difference I should know about, or do I just need more practice? Any advice is appreciated.
Pi
Smash Hero
there are really only two things that can be said to help you out...
1) You can spam L cancels (you can L cancel with L, R, or Z), so if you wanted you could just mash all those in succession (but that comes with it's own consequences)
2) Practice...it'll come with practice...everything does
set up an inanimate player 2 and practice on it, or practice on computer, or in training mode, whatever, hell you can practice in the HRC if you want.
I can't seem to fast fall and l-cancel a short hopped aerial when hitting an opponent/a shield- should I be fast falling later/earlier, or l-canceling earlier/later?
I honestly cannot get the timing down.
I can do it perfectly with full hopped aerials though...
I honestly cannot get the timing down.
I can do it perfectly with full hopped aerials though...
Geist
Smash Master
Shield hitlag will delay your timing a bit.
Go into versus, turn stars up to very high (because the hitlag is the same) and practice getting the timing down.
Go into versus, turn stars up to very high (because the hitlag is the same) and practice getting the timing down.
Alright thanks!
Pi
Smash Hero
I tested this with foxes nair, it had the same hitlag on a shield and on a person.
Not sure if this carries through with all moves, but I personally have never experienced a difference between hitting a shield and hitting a person.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbKJ5Ho596g&feature=watch_response
how dis happen
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How many angles can a character wavedash at? Assuming frame correct airdodge. Is it the same for all characters?
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
I think you can actually air dodge in just about every little minuscule direction.(I know you can sdi in over like 9k directions)
so I think its just under half of hella for WD.
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Whenever i WD i feel like there are only 3 angles i can do it in. perfect length, no distance and somewhere in between. Its fine for the most part when i play marth or fox, but i was playing a little ICs today and it was hard to keep my spacing tight; i always seemed to be stuck moving a little too far and getting hit by stupid **** cause my spacing got messed up.
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
Ive been working on spacing movements with m2 as well. ummm try doing things like WD and immediately dash and shield. it will stop all your momentum immediately even out of a wavedash.
mix that around with diff length WDs and and WD in place and it may help.
mix that around with diff length WDs and and WD in place and it may help.
SuperMatt
Smash Champion
yeah you can essentially WD an infinite amount of lengths but realistically humans can only get 4 or 5
straight down
slightly over
diagonally over
diagonally over plus slightly more
you get the idea
straight down
slightly over
diagonally over
diagonally over plus slightly more
you get the idea
The easiest and quickest way is to simply push both sticks up at the same time while running. This ensures that the up smash isn't accidentally charged. If you end up jumping and doing an upair, this means you're pushing up on the c-stick too late.
The other way is to push up on the control stick and A. You want to hit A right after you push up, so that the up-smash input cancels out the jump. This allows for you to charge the up smash.
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Эикельманн [РУС]
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Both at once? That wouldn't work. I hit the analog slight before the c stick. So that the jump is literally canceled by my up smash.
Y'know, jump canceled. :3
Y'know, jump canceled. :3
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To JC you must jump and then do your action during the starting few frames of your jump. There are a few methods, I usually do control stick and A or control stick and cstick, but jman and m2k claw to use the y button and cstick so they have full control of their character's movement.
It's the easiest way to learn how to do it. It's much more simple to explain than "push up on the yellow stick right after the control stick," since "right after" or "slightly before" are kinda vague descriptions of timing.
You get the JC upsmash most of the time using this method, and it's pretty close to the timing for Fox since his jump comes out fast. You get more leeway with characters with delayed jumps like Bowser/Ganon.
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genkaku
Guest
Analog and A works best for me.
Are you trying to do it out of shield/shine or something?
Mostly OoS, but I end up Uairing.
I haven't even thought about doing it after a shine.
Pi
Smash Hero
for OoS I use analog & cstick
for out of shine i use analog & A, since that's more natural for me than releasing B and going down to c stick then bringing it up
for out of shine i use analog & A, since that's more natural for me than releasing B and going down to c stick then bringing it up
Ok after practicing it a bit I can do both OoS and out of shine semi-consistently. I prefer doing both with the c-stick.
Any use for Falco's Shine -> usmash? I don't see any reason to use it over an aerial and comboing from there.
Any use for Falco's Shine -> usmash? I don't see any reason to use it over an aerial and comboing from there.
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No use for shine usmashes really. fox can combo with it in specific situations but it has no real benefits.
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genkaku
Guest
wombo combo
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
more damage. I have hit shielders trying to act after the shine tho.
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i meant opposed to waveshine usmash, though i guess it could be safe on shield because of how godly usmash is....
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
na, I think every character can punish a shielded up smash.
I more or less got lucky.
I more or less got lucky.
X1-12
Smash Champion
sometimes if I'm sure they're not going to roll yet (unlikely) I will try to shield break with Shine->upsmash
Pi
Smash Hero
hows that workin out for ya