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Please explain why Zero Suit Samus is low tier? I'm pretty sure she should be high tier, no lower, no higher. She is fast, has range, has two stun moves, 3 spikes, 2 different tether recovery's and a third jump, and only lacks in her approach from the air.
Why is Wario so low and Lucario so high?
Where's Jigglypuff gotten off to?
When making tier lists, we are assuming that both players are highly skilled. As in the Marth and DK/Bowser would both have excellent spacing. In that case, speed would become the next big factor, which Marth excells in as well. Spacing with Marth is easier than spacing with those guys, because he's faster.
Except being light... lacking killing/damaging moves at low %'s, the fact that his comboing potential only makes up for his low damage outpout.
But, it's not just Metaknight. Marth holds this advantage over almost all of the characters. Not many characters can outrange Marth, and those that do are severly lacking in speed when comparing to him. This one important attribute is exactly what gives Marth advantages in his matchups, and what covers his weaknesses.
G&W can autocancel N-airs too, which are better than R.O.B.'s F-air in terms of range and priority. Plus, G&W's B-air destroys shields and has gay range. G&W is the better approacher.
No, Mario is definitely better than Peach. Mario's projectile is better than Peach's because he can spam it faster and use it to approach better, not to mention it protects him from ledgeguarding way better in Brawl. Peach's projectile gets destroyed on shields anyhow, and others can catch it easily, so it sucks. Mario's FLUDD + Cape >>> Peach's ledgeguard game. His ledgeguarding game is REALLY GOOD. Just because others can't ledgeguard, that doesn't mean Mario's ledgeguard game sucks. FLUDD can be used onstage to gimp some recoveries, while it also makes other recoveries much easier to ledgeguard by putting them in a bad position. Cape pushes people away from stage and reverses directional orientation of opponents, which also gimps very effectively. Mario also has a meteor smash, while Peach doesn't on a side note.
I've played Falcon and gotten used to him. Falcon's "combo setups" SUCK. Everything he does is too slow and sends people too far for him to reasonably follow up with combos. Also, Falcon can't kill at reasonable percents because his kill options all suck. Ganondorf's Side B allows him to also get guaranteed jabs, I think D-tilts, and tech punishing. It's also a BLOODY GRAB, so he can actually approach (Falcon can't). Plus, Ganondorf can D-air autocancel just like Falcon, but his D-air is 100x more powerful. Ganondorf also has GOOD kill options in F-tilt, Dash attack, Down-B, and Jab. Falcon can't kill with those ever. Ganondorf also has one hax counterpick stage (Brinstar). Falcon doesn't have any good counterpick stage.
I wasn't saying Ivysaur was high tier (because that of course isn't true). Ivysaur is just clearly not bottom tier. Ivysaur's projectile spam is good. You can spam at a decent rate, and the razor leaves have decent size, so you can camp people with Ivysaur. And remember what I said, Ivysaur can kill vertically extremely well, which is also critical in Brawl. It also has Bullet Seed, which is one of the best neutral B attacks in the game.
I beg to differ of course.
I think the rule is "don't ask".i respect your idea but that impossible because there would never be a resolve because people get hyped up when there favorite character is put on the choping block but good idea.
you guys now how to become a moderator? i think i'm up for the challenge.
Mario has the same problem as Falcon...he got screwed by the Brawl game engine, but he's still good, you just have to adapt. I've been too lazy to make him work, but he isn't too bad.
True. Also dont forget about other things, like his PK Fire knockback and wavebouncing ability.
