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That is crap if you can only access ZSS with items on, that means she would be impossible to play in tournaments.

That would be a load of crap. He better put something else up. New update didn't tell us anything new, except that she is weaker and faster. Crap, crap.
 
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Sargent_Peach said:
That is crap if you can only access ZSS with items on, that means she would be impossible to play in tournaments.
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these questions and more brought to you by the mysterious Brawl, which will leave every fan wondering till December.... *sigh*the stress is too much....
 
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this was a pointless update "oh let me piss the fans off even more when they think zamus will only be accessable by item. OH I KNOW! let me make a stupid profile that shows nothing, and wastes the update for the day! oh that'll really screw with them!" seriously this is so freakin dumb
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Like I said, if there is a way to just choose Zamus, which I think there will be, whether he tells us or not, we gotta wait till December 3rd. So lets just keep our pants on... literally guys.

Also, just ANOTHER way to look at this, on the update it says "After Samus destroys her powersuit, she changes into her Zero Suit..." not exact words, but close enough. He didn't say "After Samus uses her Final Smash, she changes into her Zero Suit." So MAYBE you can just choose her. The best way I can think off, instead of holding A, like Shiek, let you choose her at the Character Selection screen. By that I'm saying when you choose your color, you press Y or X. Now if you choose Samus, you can, for example, press X, and her portrait changes to Zero Suit. Then press Y from there to change colors for that. It could work that way for all the Transformation characters, so if Shiek comes back, it would work fine for her too. This way we don't have any complaints.

Just think about what I just said, I'm going to sleep.
 
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Sariku.Uchiha said:
Like I said, if there is a way to just choose Zamus, which I think there will be, whether he tells us or not, we gotta wait till December 3rd. So lets just keep our pants on... literally guys.

Also, just ANOTHER way to look at this, on the update it says "After Samus destroys her powersuit, she changes into her Zero Suit..." not exact words, but close enough. He didn't say "After Samus uses her Final Smash, she changes into her Zero Suit." So MAYBE you can just choose her. The best way I can think off, instead of holding A, like Shiek, let you choose her at the Character Selection screen. By that I'm saying when you choose your color, you press Y or X. Now if you choose Samus, you can, for example, press X, and her portrait changes to Zero Suit. Then press Y from there to change colors for that. It could work that way for all the Transformation characters, so if Shiek comes back, it would work fine for her too. This way we don't have any complaints.

Just think about what I just said, I'm going to sleep.
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lol forget my post i overreacted and i agree lol
 
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Sargent_Peach said:
So we can't change unless we play with items? That really sucks!!!!!1
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It can't be that bad. This is where we have our item on tournaments as well as item off ones. Could be loads of fun, I did one once where each participant got to pick an item to turn on :D
 
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You know... Somehow I just have this feeling that wean the time comes for the update for the Final Smash item, Where gonna learn that the item itself is also a one time show per game as well...
 
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I'm just thankful that we can play as ZSS at all. I think that the ability to play as her after the Final Smash is great and I'm not too disappointed if we can't use her in tournaments.

Who knows, Final Smashes may not be random on the level and may not be a traditional item per se. Maybe they appear in a set location on each stage.
 
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go to search by posts by date you'll see todays update of zero suit samus with her whip etc.
 
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I have a stong feeling by the time the game is released (at the very least) the whole smash ball and zamus thing will be compleletly cleared up and we'll all be like *slap* "man i was so stupid for thinking that!!!"
No worries guys, have faith in the guy !!!!! he knows what hes doing!
 
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if they gave Zamus her own profile, i highly doubt they would waste her like that. she has to be selectable in some way.

although i thought i would be mad if they had the profile and didn't answer my question of whether or not the Final Smash would be the only way to transform, it did answer another for me, and that's whether Zamus is an advantage or a disadvantage. after reading and looking at the screenshots, i would have to say Zamus is an advantage over Samus, so i look forward to using the Final Smash as Samus. hopefully in the future my other question will be answerd, but in the mean time i can rest easy knowing Zamus won't suck in the game. plus she's still a babe
 
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PSIguy89 said:
I have a stong feeling by the time the game is released (at the very least) the whole smash ball and zamus thing will be compleletly cleared up and we'll all be like *slap* "man i was so stupid for thinking that!!!"
No worries guys, have faith in the guy !!!!! he knows what hes doing!
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Good point... It's not like this games in the hands of Sonic Team or anything of the sort...

But that note aside Nintendo's project developers have a little bit of a history of taking an idea and running with it regardless of whatever there consumers think...

Mind you thats where things like the Nintendo DS & the Wii come from... But we had to go through things like the Virtual Boy & a CD-ROM'less Nintendo 64 first before there innovation and stubborn unwillingness to lessen to there consumers actually payed off...

On that note i'll get to where i'm going with this... Samus's Final Smash might vary well be the only possible way to play as zssamus... As dumb as that might be to most, I could see them doing that deliberately if they genuinely thought it would influence players to leave items on if they are in the mindset that THAT is a good thing...
 
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Even with items on, I think it's going to be hard to get your hands on a final smash in a four player game (since three other players will be rushing to get it). And in a one-vs-one tourney game, it could be late into the match when one finally appears (and the other guy might get it instead!)

For tourney play, I doubt it'll be worth learning how to play as Zero Samus just on the oft chance you get a final smash. Unless both she AND suited Samus are top-tier, of course (then you'll have to learn both, though)
 
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Sariku.Uchiha said:
Like I said, if there is a way to just choose Zamus, which I think there will be, whether he tells us or not, we gotta wait till December 3rd. So lets just keep our pants on... literally guys.

Also, just ANOTHER way to look at this, on the update it says "After Samus destroys her powersuit, she changes into her Zero Suit..." not exact words, but close enough. He didn't say "After Samus uses her Final Smash, she changes into her Zero Suit." So MAYBE you can just choose her. The best way I can think off, instead of holding A, like Shiek, let you choose her at the Character Selection screen. By that I'm saying when you choose your color, you press Y or X. Now if you choose Samus, you can, for example, press X, and her portrait changes to Zero Suit. Then press Y from there to change colors for that. It could work that way for all the Transformation characters, so if Shiek comes back, it would work fine for her too. This way we don't have any complaints.

Just think about what I just said, I'm going to sleep.
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Same thing I discussed with a friend. There's either button holding or just scrolling through the costumes/colors.

I'm not worried about it at all. I don't know why many of you are.

I guess it helps that I truely don't care. I don't pick Samus and I'm not interested in ZSS, but I do like the Metroid franchise, fancy that.
 
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Tiamat said:
Even with items on, I think it's going to be hard to get your hands on a final smash in a four player game (since three other players will be rushing to get it). And in a one-vs-one tourney game, it could be late into the match when one finally appears (and the other guy might get it instead!)

For tourney play, I doubt it'll be worth learning how to play as Zero Samus just on the oft chance you get a final smash. Unless both she AND suited Samus are top-tier, of course (then you'll have to learn both, though)
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Thats where I stand to... (providing the FS orb is the only possible route to zamus)

But who knows... The FS might actually be a nessisary part of game play wean facing some odds...

For all we know Meta Knight might have a downright unfair advantage agenst characters lilke Samus & Bowser, And items like the FS orb are the only real offset to that...

I'm just thinking about this from a programmers prospective... It would be a way of balanceing out the game... Though that route does force your options...
 
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Is it just me or has anyone noticed that there doesn't seem to be a shield on brawl.... or at least i haven't seen anyone use it...

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but....
it seems like they replaced the shield with just a regular guard as in characters have their own defense stances

unless i'm wrong someone please guide me in the right direction or show me a screenshot of a shield
 
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Dew Rag said:
Is it just me or has anyone noticed that there doesn't seem to be a shield on brawl.... or at least i haven't seen anyone use it...

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but....
it seems like they replaced the shield with just a regular guard as in characters have their own defense stances

unless i'm wrong someone please guide me in the right direction or show me a screenshot of a shield
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Maybe Sakurai thought that the sheilds would ruin the pictures so he took them out. But they could still be in the actual games
 
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Good point... :laugh:

But... Isn't GB more like a temporary effect as opposed to Zamus whom the players stuck with (possibly until the games end) ...?
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yeah...that's why Zamus is on the Newcomers Screen and Giga B isn't....wait a second ...THE NEWCOMER SCREEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY WOULD SHE BE THERE IF SHE WASN"T SELECTABLE?!
 
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Good point... :laugh:

But... Isn't GB more like a temporary effect as opposed to Zamus whom the players stuck with (possibly until the games end) ...?
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yeah, she has a completely different move set. IMO it would be a waste if all that work of designing a new character got wasted because zamus is only met by certain conditions. I think they are smarter then that, but we'll see...
 
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Actually, on the venom stage fox does shield
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Yeah, but that's different from the beginning part, which is also clearly gameplay. Point was that for the closeups, no one is doing shields because they aren't trying to avoid getting hit. For the last half of that commercial...they were just showing the general mayhem of the Melee game.
 
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the grim lizard said:
Yeah, but that's different from the beginning part, which is also clearly gameplay. Point was that for the closeups, no one is doing shields because they aren't trying to avoid getting hit. For the last half of that commercial...they were just showing the general mayhem of the Melee game.
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that's my point...There are no sheilds in the Brawl pix
 
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Pitismyangel said:
yeah...that's why Zamus is on the Newcomers Screen and Giga B isn't....wait a second ...THE NEWCOMER SCREEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY WOULD SHE BE THERE IF SHE WASN"T SELECTABLE?!
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Well... It's not that your train of logic does'nt make complete sense...

It's just that it's more of a hypothesis at the moment then undisputable fact... (Not to say mine is in any way, shape, or form)

Just trying to say Nintendo has a bit of a habit with doing crazy over the top stuff like this from time to time... (Going on power trips, "Thinking they can sway the mass's because they know what we want more then we do")

If they really want people to immbrace items in competitive play... This would be one way to try & nudge pepole in that direction...

It kinna would make sense considering the amount of time that's it takes them to program the items...
 
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