Peachy-Desu
Smash Journeyman
Pretty sure Peach is held down a lot by the pesky MK mu.. lol Some would argue Falco as well.
Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!
You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!
Guys guys. What if Ice Climbers are really the best characters in the game,
But Diddy, Olimar, and MK are just in the way
yet u still didnt get what i was saying. Esam was trolling you.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!5. Peach and Pit swapped
Hmm, I do agree that Icees are above Olimar, but Snake tied with Pika? Not sure about that one.
Okay I used hyperbole but even so:Ac's outplaced TKD. SLS's gotten top 3 every tourney he has gone to if I recall correctly and he has used in some of em. So is next to his name and he'd be above Yui. Whatchu smoking? mains forever saltiest...
MK-banned is the standard. Deal with it.lmfao, whoever made this tier list is ********. MK banned tournaments shouldn't count toward the placing, that's like counting low tier tournaments, if it's not the entire cast, it shouldn't count. End of story.
Pretty sure a lot of chars are held down by that "pesky MK mu."Pretty sure Peach is held down a lot by the pesky MK mu.. lol Some would argue Falco as well.
I was told that they didn't count and that only MK legal tourneys were used as data...lmfao, whoever made this tier list is ********. MK banned tournaments shouldn't count toward the placing, that's like counting low tier tournaments, if it's not the entire cast, it shouldn't count. End of story.
Except it isn't. URC's disbanded and there have been a bunch of MK legal tourneys this year. Besides, it doesn't make sense to say MK banned is the standard when we're still factoring him in our MU charts and tier lists.MK-banned is the standard. Deal with it.
None of those chars get -4'd like DK. No char with a -4 deserves to BL.But what happened to DK? In my opinion he could be borderline (which itself is a great idea). I mean, would DK be worse than Sonic? Sheilda?
and shock.. those above her all seem to have a better MU with MK. I mean that lovely -3 which has totally not been the main reason for Peach's not going anywhere haha.Pretty sure a lot of chars are held down by that "pesky MK mu."
Not true, he has one of the bestests.DK has horrible grab range
this guy knows what hes talking about. agree completely.I'm a bit disappointed that of all tiers it has to be top tier that's so wrong =/
Why is Diddy still considered top 3? His match-ups and results aren't top 3. He should be 4th or 5th.
Snake is 4th at worst. Olimar MIGHT be better than him but Diddy has never been and will never be a better character than Snake.
Olimar isn't 2nd best. ICs are better than him period. If you're generous you can give him 3rd but I think Snake's better.
Swapping Diddy with IC and Olimar with Snake would make top tier perfect imo.
Peach is still massively overrated, Lucas should probably leave Low Tier by now and Ganondorf's position as worst character should be reconsidered next time.
On the plus side the drops of Falco, Marth, Wario, GW and DK are all entirely warranted. I'd move B-Tier into "High" though
Yeah Id agree if snake can move into the high tier lobby with themOn the plus side the drops of Falco, Marth, Wario, GW and DK are all entirely warranted. I'd move B-Tier into "High" though
Its not a joke...snake is not that goodJrugs, you're not funny / clever / original
And not even a hint of bias, Tiborthis guy knows what hes talking about. agree completely.
I think this character has potential that nobody really seems to care about or exploit. It seems that nobody really tries other things about him other than 4God (Who's the only successful D3 around) except the original chaingrab.People should start playing more d3 this char is so underrated cause of the lack in players. He drops every tierlist but he could go up big time if you get good players using d3...
D3 is good, just has a few major flaws like speed.Nah, Dedede is ****ing awful.
Well, I've argued in other places that if you're an overall better character, you'll have a better MU vs MK and vice versa, since MK is an all-around excellent character. All of top tier has only -1's (and a 0) against him. From that perspective, it kinda makes sense that the characters above Peach on the tier list, in other words, the characters 'better' than Peach, also have better MUs against MK.and shock.. those above her all seem to have a better MU with MK. I mean that lovely -3 which has totally not been the main reason for Peach's not going anywhere haha.
I like that list
i agree with thisOkay I used hyperbole but even so:
I'm not a Fox main. SLS definitely isn't a Wolf main, don't pretend. And despite AC perhaps outplacing TKD once (where?) I'm pretty sure TKD's accolades far surpass AC's.
EDIT: Beyond that Yui and SLS are in Different regions and don't compete. Yui is in the more competitive East Japan with the likes of Rain, Nietono, Brood and Mikenoko and SLS is in West Japan with 9b, Souther and Masashi. Though talking about SLS is pointless because he's a Falco main who has used more MK as secondary than Wolf.
What's to stop Ganon from getting to top tier if it's just how good a character can be? I mean, he can powershield everything. That's pretty OP. So he should be on top, even if he can't back that up. I mean, sure, he isn't placing well in tournaments, but if there were Ganon players that could powershield every move that came at them, then I think he'd be on top.A good tier list would be based on how good a character can be, not how good the players that use each character are. Its not fair that pikachu is so low even though he is a great character just because only one good player uses him.