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Ok then
But Peach is buns tho.
We've been through this 100 times already... Peach is considered a decent character with decent match-ups and decent results and that justifies her placing. It's great Sonic did well in a tournament and still gets some nice results and all but he still doesn't seem that great of a character to most.
As for Pit idk. Personally on one hand I find him underrated since he I'd like to see him higher on the tier list but his match-ups are waaaay overrated. However, he doesn't have any unwinnable match-ups (MK is not unwinnable, -2 imo). Top of E looks good to me.
//Ok fine, Pit is good. I believe it without any proof.
Daang Yaaay going in.
Rofl suuuuuure.
Everyone who is Pit main.
Shut up.
The people who play them are obviously biased whiny ****ing *****es who cry whenever someone starts a discussion about their big role model. You can tell some of your your own 'raw experiences' by for example saying "I think Pit and his match-ups are decent because he doesn't have a major or abusable weakness or because of this or because of that".
No need to get so dramatic and defensive >_>The MU chart for Pit is not spot on. But let's not get into objecting the Holy Numbers of our god Pit, or I'll hurt a soul or two.
qurrrrrl, ii 4got 2 put "for a character of that caliber" mi bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xhfSo__rL0 koolaid vs dazwa zss
Not really. Like Jimmyfosho said, Falcon simply sucks. There may be different definitions of 'bad', but Captain is without any doubt seriously unviable. Please do not compare him to Pit B/C/D/and even E tier characters.
one set, not multiple.
They're totally comparable. I would go so far as to say that Falcon is better than Ness.I'll admit I cheated.
Ehh replace with Ness.
They're totally comparable. I would go so far as to say that Falcon is better than Ness.
It's funny that I usually only talk about that kind of potential for the characters that I play, but I wouldn't play a character if they didn't have such potential.
Either way, Ness isn't so cool. Not nearly as cool as Falcon.
Too bad nobody actually mains CF so that's never going to happen
nah i dont think my main is that great. Better than the people below him, besides maybe Bowser.
Yup cuz i'm saying pit is amazing...that's def not what i said. Pit is either top of mid tier or bottom of low high tier. He's around fox imo but more balanced in his mu sheet. I said stop talking like you know wdf your talking about. And when someone gives you what LITTLE evidence we actually have due to lack of rep. your like LOL doesn't count.
Lol i'm one of the few that usually finds it not even worth it cuz people just don't know that much about the character at all. He's not A tier like in japan. And i can state that with relative confidence. He is def. slept on. And he not "overrated" in his mu". It's pretty damn close to what it should be.
Rofl suuuuuure.
Everyone who is Pit main.
Shut up.
The people who play them are obviously biased whiny ****ing *****es who cry whenever someone starts a discussion about their big role model. You can tell some of your your own 'raw experiences' by for example saying "I think Pit and his match-ups are decent because he doesn't have a major or abusable weakness or because of this or because of that".
No need to get so dramatic and defensive >_>The MU chart for Pit is not spot on. But let's not get into objecting the Holy Numbers of our god Pit, or I'll hurt a soul or two.
Lol that's the name of the pit youtube channelDaang Yaaay going in.
Always the Pit mains.
Ik he does. I'm not worked up. I just keep it real.
For a mu that's not really gonna change that much and hasn't;that little bit of evidence is somewhat relevant still. Also why wouldn't R@vyn go falco? He does so much better. Seems like an obvious choice to me if u already have a good falco like him.
If Meta Knight gets banned, I'll never get a chance to do it. :/
On this note, I'd like to point out to Maharba that you can bring up every good thing Pit has done, BUT you aren't making a very good case for why he is BETTER than Peach or Sonic. A quick run down of how the matchups have gone IRL:
As mr HAZE just said, he lost to WC's best pit once and has dropped at LEAST 3 sets that I know of vs Sonic. I'm not trying to tell you Pit is Hyrule tier, but you aren't making a good case for Pit being better than Sonic. Same goes for Zex. You say a pit took games off of Nick Riddle? __X__ beat him twice. Not to mention Espy beating like every ZSS in Texas. , well I haven't seen any top Sonics in Japan. But, a good deal of top ICs in the US have lost sets to Sonics. not really sure here, outside of japan, I'm pretty sure I don't recall sonic or pit doing well vs diddy in practice. A good mid level example is Jebus who I believe recently lost to a Sonic. Don't remember DEHF losing to a Pit, but I would personally consider this to be one matchup Pit does better in. In practice this probably also goes to Pit. But I'm not gonna go searching for Florida results to prove it. Sonic is looking pretty good here, but when do we ever see Pit vs Toon Link, obviously as we get dangerously close to mid tier, its less important AND there are less viable examples. If this one still matters to you, results from this side of the planet EASILY say Sonic does better.
Mikehaze losing to mid tiers too often for X beating him to actually make a case for the MU.On this note, I'd like to point out to Maharba that you can bring up every good thing Pit has done, BUT you aren't making a very good case for why he is BETTER than Peach or Sonic. A quick run down of how the matchups have gone IRL:
If he linked the MM then it went like 1st game esca went mk I think. 2nd game esca won with solidly. 3rd game Nike won solidly. 4th was last hit nike won. 5th game esca went mk.
Pit vs ZSS hasn't even really happened at top level so you can't really compare.
What, Lain losing to X?
Gnes beat X really bad and beat Espy too, I know X recently lost to Vato Break's diddy. As for Pit I don't ever recall this MU happening at high level since Earth used Sheik against Gnes.
Another MU that probably hasn't occurred at a high level.
Earth beat Jash back at Apex 2010.
Fair enough, however most MKs don't know the Sonic MU.
what results?
to fall to Sonic in the past year or so. Espy> Jerm(top toon link in the region) at Nikefest 4 for recent results. Top Sonics overall have a decent record vs him. __X__ lost to Annuar (though i heard he uses many characters so maybe it wasnt olimar), Espy has his wins over RB, Denti etc. as well as his losses. Don't tell me Earth coming from japan with the best Olimar exp the world has to offer beating Annuar puts Pit noticably ahead. well what can I say here. Can't really compare Espy losing to Ally and Razer with Pits beating Fatal and Bizkit. Lets see a pit do remotely well against Ally then.
earth has taken multiple games off brood and masashi has beaten brood and nietono. and also he beat annuar back in the day koolaid also took a game off of ally. that MU doesn't happen in bracket ever at top level. at least i've never heard/seen it.
earth beat coney at apex 2010. luckay recently outplaced coney although i do not know if they played so i can't say if the MU has happened recently. hasn't happened in bracket to my knowledge. pit's have done good against falco and falco's have done good against pit. although i haven't heard of dehf playing a pit so i can't referance that. doesn't happen really, so ya can't really say.
sorry can't confirm this outside of like leaf and esca which doesn't count since they are laughably old
