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I rest my case.
loooooool.
Megafox is A player who Mains Fox and seconds Snake and has already taken 3rd in SA, in B-Tier for our TX PR already. And have taken sets off Espy K Prime etc.I thought megafox was robfox.
I guess I should change it to ATL south then. Either way I was just messin with iblis(SP?).
So... that's why Yoshi didn't have a possible +3 jump he deserved?We ordered within high/mid/low tier from v5 so Yoshi couldn't be voted any higher than 29th and PT couldn't be voted below 28th in stage 1. This was to prevent ridiculously large leaps coming from next to nowhere. In stage 2, the bottom of a tier and the top of the tier below were ordered with respect to eachother to iron out the transitions between tiers, more or less. I'm mobile so I'll stop there, but if this isn't clear someone should really elaborate because the voting will make a lot more sense if people... know how voting was done... >___>
This...
A bit outrageous when you have Lucas and Mario above Yoshi, while Fox Wolf and DK are under Kirby...
Well what can I say? Yoshi's not that bad, but I feel like Mario and Lucas are better. I've always also felt that Fox/Wolf/DK were under Kirby. It's all opinions anyway, we've all got something in our own personal tier lists that people see as "outrageous" but not us.
No, not at all. It's good and more detailed! It's just the imbalance is bad (not the list or groupings) And games can have a huge roster without all the tiers if the game is more balanced. I love this list, because it really reflects viability degrees with in competitive play, which is what an effective tier list reflects.
i think the can't kill + dies early is the clincher. And limited in so many ways... ground game, range, moveset... two moves that are nearly worthless. But does Link die early because of his recovery? He still kills better. I don't know too much about him because of how uncommon he is.
gotdamn u could have just said he wasnt lol...no need to meatride
Yes. She has to play like Wario and avoid attacks. However, her aerial range is better (not so good fast fall speed, though) and uses her aerials in a different way than Wario. 2nd fastest aerial speed helps too.
There aren't many reasons to run, but she has a good dash grab I hear.
Yep, should never happen. And she'd die anyways.
Only issue with this is getting spiked or footstooled, but not much of an issue otherwise, since pound helps.
Maybe 60-80 to Ike's usmash or PatG DI. Best way to horizontal momentum cancel is bair to pound. Vertical is bair afaik.
Shield grab is not an issue at all, but attacks out of shield. Jigglypuff is good at crossing over from front to behind on people pretty easily, which helps.
Her range is actually pretty decent, and her aerial speed helps it even more. It's just that her hurtboxes stick out on some moves. That's why you use bair if you want to retreat your hitbox more. Her aerial speed makes up for lack of range at times.
Sourspouts can easily setup sweetspots. Sourspots also give you tons of damage %.
Limited but not quite that bad. She has decent out of shield options, an amazing grab, and decent aerial attacks. Dash attack has its situational uses.
True, but a lot of characters have useless moves. They're at least somewhat situational near the edge, but I probably wouldn't use them.
She can get a hit, but if it doesn't kill things get stale. It's pretty bad but it's not that bad since she can get a lot of % on people even at higher percents with sourspots.
You can easily frame trap by hitting with the end of a sourspot aerial. A lot of her aerials last 8+ frames also, which can cover air dodge and other maneuvers better.
True as long as they DI correctly. But this is true for almost all characters.
Disagree with a lot of people on her MUs so I think my own thing regarding that.
Jigglypuff's playstyle is a unique twist of Kirby and Wario at certain parts, as well as quite a few other aspects. It's entirely different. They're just better characters so this argument can be used for any character.
Agreed. Except, for obvious reasons, I don't like Sonic.
Yoshi's double jump armor does very little against Squirtle's combos. Landing B-Air -> F-Tilt -> Jab is a true combo at low percents (get rid of the F-Tilt at middling percents). U-Air has enough range to avoid a mid-air jump -> N-Air when Yoshi is getting juggled. D-Air gets Yoshi out of his mid-air jump quickly and does not allow him to N-Air out of it, much less anything else. Yoshi is also heavy enough for combos to keep working until mid-to-high percents.
Yoshi's CG>spike not guaranteed on squirtle afterall?
Lack of Waft, but Squirtle trades that for an amazing ground game (as compared to Wario's outright rather bad ground game), which is a huge boost in many cases.
Oh dears, made more money thoughAtomsk, didn't you lose to one of those free-region Wolves?
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