Official BBR Tier List v5

[ShadowLink84]

Do the top players ever post in the BBR?

yes, of course they post.

 

[Spelt]

yes, of course they post.

AKA no, they don't.

 

[DMG]

AKA no, they don't.

They do post



When we play games and pass out cake

 

[Poltergust]

CAKE!?

My wanting to get into the BBR just increased by 27.68%.

 

[demonictoonlink]

Not gonna lie, I only posted that so I could check my recent posts.

But I still like DMG's sig.

 

[Orion*]

He's referring to her grab, which IS dodgeable on reaction if you know what to look for.

thank you for not being an idiot

Down tilt, up tilt, and Side-b are all really good moves. Jab is good, but your mileage may vary, because you have to mix up most of the time to make any use of it.

not if you are applying proper pressure and shield camping

Forward Tilt is awful unless you really need range. Paralyzer Shot is OK, but not great (it lets you duck under lasers and other projectiles sometimes). Forward Smash is Forward Smash. Dash Attack is a freaking AMAZING move (you can actually perform it without being shield grabbed if you space it right).

everything you listed is a extremely situational move but dash attack, and since you know that all you really need to react to is grab, you can just shield it.

Wario has a better dash attack than ZSS

Discuss

yes, because youd expect something better XD

People definitely overrate how easy it is to dodge a ZSS grab on reaction. Unless you've played the matchup a ton, you are not going to be able to unless the ZSS is really obvious.

The thing about reaction time is, lets say it takes you 10 frames to realize ZSS is grabbing. You still have to then spotdodge, which is 2 more frames. So, if you have what is considered a decently fast reaction time, you have 4 frames of leway to react to something that by no means should you be expecting from a ZSS if they're being smart with their grabs.

ZSS can only go for grabs in certain situations without putting herself at high risk, WAY past the risk reward ratio. so if the players are smart and adequately thinking, they should be expecting a Potential grab in the proper situations, and then correctly react.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Polt, im pretty sure that if you applied for the BBR, you'd have a good chance of making it

 

[Spelt]

No yoshis allowed in the BBR.

 

[Delta-cod]

Polt, im pretty sure that if you applied for the BBR, you'd have a good chance of making it

Where did this come from?

No yoshis allowed in the BBR.

Yep. It's why I didn't apply.

 

[Z'zgashi]

CAKE!?

My wanting to get into the BBR just increased by 27.68%.

It came from this delta

 

[bigman40]

No yoshis allowed in the BBR.

As if we were allowed beforehand? lol

 

[Spelt]

i never specified a time period in which you were/weren't allowed in there.

 

[Delta-cod]

It came from this delta

Right, you should have quoted it, the posts were separated.

lrn2messageboard.

 

[Z'zgashi]

...My bad then...

 

[dainbramage]

Well, i think the lesson we have all taken away from this is that rear ending someone is just like punishing zss's grab

Idiot .

 

[Poltergust]

Polt, im pretty sure that if you applied for the BBR, you'd have a good chance of making it

I already did the first day applications were available. =P

 

[Z'zgashi]

I just had the most satisfying kill on a snake ever today...

 

[Spelt]

Idiot .

At your service, Ma'am.

 

[Chuee]

Delta you harsh.
@Zgashi: Cool, but nobody really cares

 

[jahkzheng]

G is for Ganondorf

Bottom tier matches are now inevitably epic

 

[GUARD]

Goooooooo fox!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Pierce7d]

go ahead and react to something that's less than 10 frames. I dare you. evade snake's/zelda's grab on reaction.

nothing in this game can really be beaten on reaction unless its over 12-13 frames or there is a huge animation change before hand.

Zelda's grab is 11 or 13 (I always forget which).

Also, I can definitely react to "an action" in a faster time frame than that.

 

[The Truth!]

People seem to confuse prediction/anticipation with reaction a lot.

 

[Orion*]

S: Meta Knight
A: Diddy Kong/Falco, Ice Climbers, Marth/Snake, Wario
B: Olimar, Pikachu/King Dedede, Lucario/Toon Link/Fox
C: Shiek/Wolf, Kirby, Gaw/Pit, Sonic, Peach, ROB***
D: ****Zero Suit Samus, Luigi, Donkey Kong, Ike, Ness

idc
E: Yoshi/Pokémon Trainer, Lucas, Mario, Bowser
F: Captain Falcon, Samus, Jigglypuff, Link, Zelda
G: Ganondorf

the only thing i wasnt sure on was sonics placement, but i believe if you play him REALLLY **** homo hed prolly be there. his issue is he doesnt really **** anyone, but he doesnt do to bad vs a lot of b-s tier chars also. so low tiers can be a challenge

i also realize how progressive it is to raise shiek wolf and fox that high, but i am talking merely from potential thats what i am thinking right now.

i also put rob and ZSS the same, however idk if i should put them in C or D

 

[Spelt]

i think that list is weirder than mine, if that's possible.

Fox in b tier? get ready for auspher/almostlegendary rage

 

[Justblaze647]

Zamus

In D tier?

o_O

 

[The Truth!]

lol, radical but at least its consistent so not too bad. Ice Climbers are overrated in general though.

Spoiler

And it should be olimar/pika

 

[Tmacc]

Lol, Zamus in D tier.

 

[Delta-cod]

S: Meta Knight
A: Diddy Kong/Falco, Ice Climbers, Marth/Snake, Wario
B: Olimar, Pikachu/King Dedede, Lucario/Toon Link/Fox
C: Shiek/Wolf, Kirby, Gaw/Pit, Sonic, Peach, ROB***
D: ****Zero Suit Samus, Luigi, Donkey Kong, Ike, Ness

idc
E: Yoshi/Pokémon Trainer, Lucas, Mario, Bowser
F: Captain Falcon, Samus, Jigglypuff, Link, Zelda
G: Ganondorf

HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGH

BORDERLINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNE.

Caps.

 

[Z'zgashi]

I wanna see what you say about this:

S:
A:
B:
C:
D:
E:
F: :shiek:
G:
H:

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

ZSS is nott better than Pikachu. =/

 

[Red Arremer]

lol Captain Falcon being the worst character in the game. Dedede being above Marth and Olimar. Hilarious.

 

[Z'zgashi]

yes... continue...

 

[Red Arremer]

I'll say it like this:
Some parts seem solid. But a lot are incredibly off.
Dedede being above Olimar and Marth and Captain Falcon being dead last are basically the "highlights" of it.

 

[-Vocal-]

The thing about reaction time is, lets say it takes you 10 frames to realize ZSS is grabbing. You still have to then spotdodge, which is 2 more frames. So, if you have what is considered a decently fast reaction time, you have 4 frames of leway to react to something that by no means should you be expecting from a ZSS if they're being smart with their grabs.

I was going to reply to this but Orion beat me to it

 

[Orion*]

i wouldnt mind fox at the top of c either to be honest

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

Fox is a great character, high tier IMO. There, I said it.

 

[Orion*]

I wanna see what you say about this:

S:
A:
B:
C:
D:
E:
F: :shiek:
G:
H:

snake doesnt have enough options to get that high

ZSS and DK dont either.

toonlink is really homo LMAO, play a good one.

ike> shiek makes me upset but w/e

im going to try and prove shiek isnt so awful soon its making me depressed

 

[C~Dog]

S:
A: ( ) ( )
B: all the rest

 

[Yikarur]

Yoshi in the same tier as Sheik and Wolf.
They're both far better in general.
und CF last is definitly not the case D:

I would be satisfied with the BBR Tier List (even though I don't like most people in there in terms of quality)
if Wolf and Sheik would be higher, because Wolf and Sheik are at least better then Luigi.
but I understand it if we take US Results and stuff because I've never seen a Sheik anywhere.