Official Ask Anyone Frame Things Thread

[Blistering Speed]

Probably the best thread in MD for the last six months. You noobs better not **** this up.

 

[Divinokage]

It was a rhetorical question to prove my point.

they're all - on shield. fair & bair are -3 tho which is pretty decent.

Ya I figured as much, Ganon is almost as bad/good as Gief pretty much lol.

 

[Jonas]

If you do a late Fair you can still jab before they can get a shieldgrab out (earliest grabs are frame 7). Some characters have faster OoS options than grab though.

 

[KingClubber]

What are the best possible frame times to get luigi's d-air Spike (meteor smash)?

 

[Strong Badam]

Meteor is active on all active hitbox frames of D-air. Hitbox is like on his **** tho or some ****. Can't really tell you just looking at data or testing what the "best" frame to hit them on practically would be.

 

[TheCrimsonBlur]

Strong Bad if you could make a table of frame advantage/disadvantage for every move in the game on shield that would help the community so much...also listing every characters major OoS options' data would be great. It seems like the majority of everyone's questions are related to that.

I'd really like to know the frame +/-s of all of Marth's moves. AC nair vs. late nair. The frames between double fair. The frames between fair uair. Late uair/fair. etc.

Also, what are the mechanics of switching between lightshield and hard shield? Can we go to light shield in between pressure? If we can, how many frames do we need to do so? Or do that cooky trick that switches the shields super quickly?

 

[Jonas]

If you know the damage you can figure pretty much all of that out yourself with help from the links in OP.

 

[Varist]

Strong Bad, how much faster is it to double side-B with Falco across like, Dreamland or FD, compared to running across? for clutch edgehogs etc.

 

[Stevo]

this thread is awesome

*subscribes*

 

[Roneblaster]

Why arent i good at this game?

 

[crush]

Your avatar doesn't contain a crush logo

 

[Strong Badam]

I've got a pretty high work load this week plus I like to **** around on the internet being unproductive so gimme some time guys.

 

[Bones0]

I've got a pretty high work load this week plus I like to **** around on the internet being unproductive so gimme some time guys.

I will allow you a 10,368,000 frame break.

 

[Tee ay eye]

how does gentleman work

 

[Strong Badam]

It's really gay. Something like compares the number of frames where A was held to number of total frames (hence why extra hitlag on hit makes it easier, same with delaying punch & knee). I don't know the threshold for it. Also holding A on the last hit and IASAing out doesn't count that A press.
workin on the other questions

 

[Tee ay eye]

Is shield DI equivalent to regular smash DI (except it being applied the hitlag on shield)? Is there a difference between shield DI and automatic shield DI? If so, does the c-stick outprioritize the control stick for auto shield DI like it does for ASDI?

It's really gay. Something like compares the number of frames where A was held to number of total frames (hence why extra hitlag on hit makes it easier, same with delaying punch & knee).

Does it count number of frames where A was held for the first two hits or just for the third one?

Also holding A on the last hit and IASAing out doesn't count that A press.

I don't get what you mean by this. Mind re-wording it?

 

[Tirno]

How do you gather frame data with boxing gloves on?

 

[Zajice]

How do you gather frame data with boxing gloves on?

I started applauding irl.

 

[ShroudedOne]

At first, I didn't get it.

But when I did, I laughed fairly hard. You, sir, are already one of the best posters on SWF. Congratulations.

 

[Strong Badam]

I started applauding irl.

God dammit Zajice
Why do you betray me

Tirno: When I visit Texas I'm killing you. Just letting you know.

Also, I've been incredibly lazy these past few weeks. >_> Sorry everyone!

 

[Bones0]

I don't get the boxing gloves joke...

 

[Mattnumbers]

I'm M2K's old frame data thread he states that Mario/Doctor Mario's down B will only result in a net increase in total altitude (He was talking about who could reach the furthest height from a standing position) if a person could mash the button at an almost inhuman speed. How many times would you have to press B during the tornado in order to do this (have a net increase in altitude if you use tornado before using UpB)?

 

[Stevo]

I don't get the boxing gloves joke...

hint

look at his avatar and account name

 

[Bones0]

hint

look at his avatar and account name

Oh, I didn't know his account was named after a boxer. And he doesn't have an avatar. lol

 

[Geenareeno]

http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.html

Go to the bottom and work your way up.

 

[LittleBoyLarry]

^^^ omfg I never laughed so hard in my life.

 

[Ocho(*8*)]

I remember reading a list of distances that fox's shine sends every character and it was beeing measured in "feet". what is a foot in melee? im guessing its half the width of puff or something like that..

 

[Pi]

the only generally accepted, factually based, tried and true form of distance in melee has and will forever be the bowser length

 

[Blistering Speed]

Is there a frame where Donkey Kong doesn't suck?

 

[Warhawk]

Is there a frame where Donkey Kong doesn't suck?

Frames 3-5 of his up-b maybe? lol

 

[Roneblaster]

Yo SB, how many frames does it take for marths up b to go from starting, to the maximum height?(IE he is no longer moving in an upwards direction.)

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

the only generally accepted, factually based, tried and true form of distance in melee has and will forever be the bowser length

i thought everything was measured in the slandered unit of mario

 

[hectohertz]

is there a way to tell how strong various hitboxes are from looking at the hitbox gifs?

what are the exact conditions for when a move with be reversed (i.e. when a knee sends you backwards, not talking about reverse specials)

is there a reason why some of g+w's aerials can't be l-cancelled?

are there any moves in the game can be auto-cancelled at the start of the move after the hitboxes comeout?


sorry for all the questions, your the best SB. <3 this thread

 

[Varist]

glad you got all these questions, your[sic] the worst SB. **** this thread

 

[crush]

Agree with vairist, I do. Mods please close.

 

[Varist]

he has not said any things of frame for 24 days.

last post doesn't count cus no numbers.

and he's a generally mean guy imo.

 

[The Star King]

DK mains can't be mean, no lie true story

 

[Varist]

i made a pun

 

[crush]

u mean he's an average guy?

 

[LittleBoyLarry]

Dk mains can't be average.