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Official Ask Anyone Frame Things Thread

Discussion in 'Melee Discussion' started by Strong Bad, Nov 8, 2011.

  1. artifice

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    Effectively they are the same states as far as gameplay is concerned. Fall Aerial is just the fall animation that is transitioned to after an aerial attack is performed.
     
  2. Popertop

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    Ok so

    You can vector when you are airborne,

    not performing an aerial, but transitioned into the FallAerial animation?

    And the same for the jump animation?

    But not when you are actively performing the aerial?
     
  3. ande

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    does any of you know on which stages side platforms luigi can edgecancel an aerial into bair fastfall it and still get the waveland? i know it works on DL and some phases of FoD, but i´m not sure if it could work on battlefield too, juts wondering.
    also does washedash off instand bair come out slower than edgecancel instand bair?
     
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  4. Chesstiger2612

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    A question about tap resets (like with jabs etc...):
    Does it only work against missed tech (DownBound) and waiting afterwards (DownWait)?
    If that is the case, characters which have an getup option that isn't intangible from frame 1 on can use this to CC a late tap reset attempt and punish with, for example, a grab. This would be better than the invincible options, because while you would not get hit, they are too slow to punish the attack.
    Apparently Fox and Falco would be able to do this with roll backwards, which is only intangible from frame 12 on (source).
    Obviously it wouldn't work if they are still in DownBound.
     
  5. SSBM Tao

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    I have a question.

    Regarding peach dealing with falco lasers,
    If falco shoots a short hop laser point blank and peach tanks it, how many frames do i have until I can dash attack? And if I do it frame perfect can falco punish any way other than committing to shield after laser?

    Thanks!
     

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