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[Megavitamins]

only NJ has low tier and doubles PR...

 

[Keitaro]

No

Wrong, you can't logically say you dislike fruit loops when infact, if that was the only thing left on the planet you would be eating it.

I conceide

You don't even understand why you conceide, go back and read the last 50 pages and form a coherent arguement that involves legends of the hidden temple and jamanji. Until you do this, the debate will continue no matter what you say.

LMAO!!!!

 

[Keitaro]

only NJ has low tier and doubles PR...

Sounds pretty dumb doesn't it?

 

[Kaiber Kop]

You don't even understand why you conceide, go back and read the last 50 pages and form a coherent arguement that involves legends of the hidden temple and jamanji. Until you do this, the debate will continue no matter what you say.

PS. Thank you for correcting my froot loop error, no one would of known what I was talking about otherwise.

You can explain it if you want. 50 pages, nahhhh

 

[Camalange]

Wrong, you can't logically say you dislike fruit loops when infact, if that was the only thing left on the planet you would be eating it.

Wow, this was too funny xD

 

[Eazy23]

What other state has
Rhyme
blue
Kai
malcom
Vex
Puffster
all competiting in a low tier event with their mains?

kai, good point about you not being at 100%. But I still don't feel it is strong enough to discredit my arguement. And it surely isn't strong enough to make a generalization on the matter.

I don't believe doubles is even necessary if no 1 else has them. That was obviously Inui's idea and no one elses iirc.

But beating someones main in a best of 3, in tournament, for money, and not counting it, is absurd.

Again, all of the focus is going to the loser. Who in this case is making claims as if they change the fact that their main lost in a set. Nothing anyone says can refute that fact. If we have an all swordsmen tournament, and my marth is beaten by keitaro with link, how does it not count as beating Eazy's marth which is indeed a tournament accomplishment.? Yes, I could have switched under different circumstances, BUT IT DOESNT CHANGE THE FACT THAT HE WAS ABLE TO BEAT MY MARTH IN TOURNAMENT.

 

[Kaiber Kop]

What other state has
Rhyme
blue
Kai
malcom
Vex
Puffster
all competiting in a low tier event with their mains?

kai, good point about you not being at 100%. But I still don't feel it is strong enough to discredit my arguement. And it surely isn't strong enough to make a generalization on the matter.

Then I'll leave it at that. It's up to a panel vote with all the members anyway. We both presented what we think and it just comes down to different values here.

 

[Eazy23]

^^
True. No hard feelings bro.

 

[Kaiber Kop]

^^
True. No hard feelings bro.

Same

 

[Inui]

Let's get the party started with my special Godot Blend #107.

The deep aroma is more intoxicating than my brilliance to come...

The taste more bitter than the harsh words of my posts...

You can't just make up stuff, all the panelists should decide on this. I keep telling you you're not god and you won't believe me. We vote for everything all the time, it's never your single decision so if Kai doesn't want to be a panelist anymore than so be it, especially after these ******** arguements I wouldn't be surprised.

But if Eazy declared to be a panelist again then we'd all have to agree.

You can't just speak for other people like that Inui.

Final judgment will be rendered by me! I have stated this multiple times to the court!

dude, iv barely even been reporting your posts as you make it out to be. this is a public forum, something anyone can see, not just me.

and keit is right, its cause your so ignorant and mean on the boards, take it as a lesson. atleast when i discuss in the nj thread (which i certainly have a right to do so), i generally provide solid insight and contribute to the conversation unlike what you and others did recently in the dso thread. you wouldnt be infracted so much if you werent such an ***. you can only blame that on yourself, not me. the safest way to not get infracted, is to be a pleasure to people on the boards. no one wants to go on here and be bickered by you or have to read 20 pages after one night of stupid arguing where ever other reply from you is belittling others/pompus remarks instead of actually debating.

Children like you still need their coffee with milk and sugar because they can't handle the bitter darkness of reality. Grow up and stop crying to mommy because someone said something mean on the internet.

Keitaro, have you read the last 10 pages of this thread? Inui had been debating this over and over and over. His posts are much longer than mine on average. His points for the most part get ignored, and he is then forced to repeat himself. You all know if I disagree with Inui I say it, as I have earlier in this debate. But claiming that all he is doing is being mean is an indicator that you are not fully reading his posts and logically disagreeing with his arguements. Do I somehow become wrong when I call you an idiot after I say the sky is blue?

You have done a very nice job of explaining a major problem everyone has. They immediately see that I posted something and their weak sensitivity lets my harsh demeanor cripple their common sense, making them unable to understand that what I have written is reality itself. Unquestionable, pure, truth.

The only thing more true is the dark bitterness on the bottom of my mug.

Simple concepts are being ignored and debated due to technicality. Beating vex's bowser in tournament is not a tourny accomplishment because it was low tier? You do realize that accomplishments are based off of beating a player that the panel sees as good while using one of their mains right?

If I beat m2k while he went squirtle, adhd while he went peach, Inui when he went fox, Atomsk when he went gaw, and pierce when he went kirby, am I top 3 in NJ? No, these characters are not tied to the image we have of these players. Only beating certain characters of theirs is seen as impressive. Regardless of a technicality on a circumstance, good players are being beaten while using the characters that they are known for. You people need to stop concentrating on the person that lost and concentrate on the PERSON THAT WON. YOU ARE PUNISHING THEM. Put yourselves in that position. You go through the low tiers bracket and beat pride, vex, rhyme, kai, and blue but none of these wins can be marked as tournament accomplishments? Look at what this does for the winner and stop concentrating on some imaginary fate that you feel impends the loser.

This amazingly perfect post calls for another cup of pure darkness.

Keitaro- No, I don't want to be a panelist. I did tell Inui that yesterday. Although I feel I would do a fair job, I simply don't care enough and don't want people complaining to me when they feel they have been done an injustice. I mean, it's happening right now, I never want that to be my fault.

Then it is so, just like I stated previously, Keitaro. Eazy should have his spot back as a panelist without debate. It is his right.

Is beating your sonic in tournament a tournament accomplishment..yes or no?

No

10 chars

Wrong. Fortunately you don't make that decision, the community does, but it was nice to see your opinion anyway. If m2k randomly decided beating his mk meant nothing, I'm sure Ally would be fine with his accomplishment being thrown to the ground.

The brief exchange above is amusing. Kai, who mains Sonic and is ranked well in this state with Sonic listed as his main that he achieves big wins with, claims that beating his Sonic is not an accomplishments. This is nonsense. I can't even understand why he whould claim such a thing. This is equal to me claiming that beating my Meta Knight doesn't amount to anything.

Then why did you ask?

So you're telling me that if my sonic losses to Lucario, Wario, Marth, Snake, Wolf, Olimar, Rob, G&W, and Luigi that this is an accomplishment currently?? Not imo it isn't. At this point I know enough not to use him when fighting these characters and instead have greater chances with Diddy and Fox. You can call it an accomplishment all you want though.

This is all pointless!

In our set, you were not counterpicked. You lost to a worse character in an even match-up. None of this theorycraft happened, none of it matters. Only the facts matter. Only the truth matters! I will not allow you or any other top low tier main to take away from the accomplishments of another person!

Kai, its still you. You are a ranked player, and well ranked, if someone beats your sonic in tournament why down them? They beat you and they can feel however they want about beating you. Its an accomplishment since your a good player and people know who you are, why take that away from anyone?

I'm glad to see that you're becoming smarter and smarter.

Thing is Eazy, in normal singles, he has a choice to switch. Whether or not his Diddy is easy for you, it may be harder than his Sonic for other players. In low tiers, there is no choice of Diddy.

When will you understand that this doesn't matter at all?

It's already been explained numerous times. Pay attention this time, ok?

I was locked onto Ike. He was locked onto Sonic. His character was better. His character was literally his #1 tournament main that he's the most experienced with. My character was my #3 character. A situation where I have access to my 1st and 2nd best characters that happen to be the 1st and 2nd best in the game and have advantages over both of his mains only benefits me, not him.

In low tiers, Kai has a 50/50 match-up against my 3rd best with his 1st or 2nd best. In normal singles, I maintain a 55/45 advantage advantage at worst for myself and have access to my own 1st and 2nd best characters.

Your theorycraft gives me the advantage and makes my low tier tournament win look better! You have destroyed your own argument!

only NJ has low tier and doubles PR...

Only NJ has been blessed by my brilliant, flawless leadership.

What other state has
Rhyme
blue
Kai
malcom
Vex
Puffster
all competiting in a low tier event with their mains?

kai, good point about you not being at 100%. But I still don't feel it is strong enough to discredit my arguement. And it surely isn't strong enough to make a generalization on the matter.

Very true, and people need to realize that if Kai wasn't at 100%, I was at even less. If he was at 50%, I was 33% or less.

I don't believe doubles is even necessary if no 1 else has them. That was obviously Inui's idea and no one elses iirc.

I was against it at first. Pierce wanted it. He convinced me to do it. And so it was done.

But beating someones main in a best of 3, in tournament, for money, and not counting it, is absurd.

Again, all of the focus is going to the loser. Who in this case is making claims as if they change the fact that their main lost in a set. Nothing anyone says can refute that fact. If we have an all swordsmen tournament, and my marth is beaten by keitaro with link, how does it not count as beating Eazy's marth which is indeed a tournament accomplishment.? Yes, I could have switched under different circumstances, BUT IT DOESNT CHANGE THE FACT THAT HE WAS ABLE TO BEAT MY MARTH IN TOURNAMENT.

More delicious, pure truth.

 

[Steel]

i actually enjoyed reading that post cus of the gifs

 

[Kaiber Kop]

QUOTE]

 

[Inui]

I will take that as a concession since you cannot counter my points (as expected).

 

[EmuKiller]

please guys. Don't. I already have 6 ban points. These pictures.....

I CANNOT RESIST!

 

[Kaiber Kop]

I will take that as a concession since you cannot counter my points (as expected).

Check the last 10 pages. You should take it as you still looking like a joke after Eazy and I have moved past it and left it up to a panel vote.

 

[Inui]

Check the last 10 pages. You should take it as you still looking like a joke after Eazy and I have moved past it and left it up to a panel vote.

Final judgment will be rendered by me! You will not be permitted to belittle the accomplishments of others with your nonsense of claiming beating your real tournament main doesn't count!

Thankfully, the last vote is going to come from someone that is like Eazy and I. Unlike Keitaro and ksizzle, Pierce has a very good low tier. The three of us have very good Marths. He's actually a good debater like us. We're black. There's so much in common!

 

[Kaiber Kop]

Nobody in NJ views you as their leader. You may feel you represent NJ due to having the loudest mouth, but that isn't true. I ask you to find at least a couple of people who believe you are their leader. Self proclaimed=/= fact.

If the panel vote is in favor of your side then so be it. It does not rest with your decision alone.

 

[Inui]

Nobody in NJ views you as their leader. You may feel you represent NJ due to having the loudest mouth, but that isn't true. I ask you to find at least a couple of people who believe you are their leader. Self proclaimed=/= fact.

If the panel vote is in favor of your side then so be it. It does not rest with your decision alone.

Actions speak louder than words. I don't care if people say they don't think I'm the leader because it's cool to disagree with me on the internet.

Guess what?

In the end, when it all comes down to it... I dictate the rulesets for the area. I control this ranking panel more than anyone else. I am the most active player. I am an active and successful host. I am a top player. Other regions view me as the leader. When it comes time to have a representative or a crew captain, you're all going to let me do it.

If I'm not the leader, then why do you all let me do everything a leader does?

 

[Kaiber Kop]

If I'm not the leader, then why do you all let me do everything a leader does?

Like what? You'll notice that everyone is not on the panel. 5 people get a say. If you're right then great but if someone disagrees with you, they obviously can voice their view.

I don't mind you being a leader of the crew, although it seems to defeat the purpose. It's less responsibility for others who don't spend all their free time with smash, debate about video games every day, and just do other things quite frankly. Unless you really cared about EVERYTHING in this games competitive atomsphere, why bother to waste time debating every aspect?

 

[Inui]

So, in conclusion, you all let me do everything a leader does, making me the leader.

Until other people do what I do (aka everything) then I have every right to assume I'm the leader, especially when people will willingly let me be their representative and captain.

Me being the leader doesn't give me absolute authority. I'm just stubborn and aggressive.

Btw, that "Final judgment will be rendered by me!" line is clearly something I stole from Godot. >_>; Don't take it so seriously.

 

[ANTi_]

(o good read here comes the size 18 SK92 font)

I think Kai is higher than me on the debate tier list with that one

 

[Zucco]

Well, I guess I'm not gonna use Ness in Singles now. If I do end up doing good with Ness in Singles then ill end up being a target in low tiers. "O I just beat Zucco's Ness in low tiers which means I beat the 6th in NJ awwwwwwwwwww yeah"


Also Inui answer me on Aim!!!

 

[Kaiber Kop]

So, in conclusion, you all let me do everything a leader does, making me the leader.

Until other people do what I do (aka everything) then I have every right to assume I'm the leader, especially when people will willingly let me be their representative and captain.

Me being the leader doesn't give me absolute authority. I'm just stubborn and aggressive.

Btw, that "Final judgment will be rendered by me!" line is clearly something I stole from Godot. >_>; Don't take it so seriously.

If that is what makes you think you're the leader then so be it. I think you are the best host. You provide the best venue, get things done on time, and host multiple events on the same day. As for leader, I do not blindly follow what you say. In no way do I view you as MY leader or the state's leader. If you are fine with a self-proclaimed leader title, thats fine. Don't expect me to agree with it

If you do EVERYTHING, there is no need for a panel. Why have one if thats the case?

 

[Inui]

Well, I guess I'm not gonna use Ness in Singles now. If I do end up doing good with Ness in Singles then ill end up being a target in low tiers. "O I just beat Zucco's Ness in low tiers which means I beat the 6th in NJ awwwwwwwwwww yeah"


Also Inui answer me on Aim!!!

Downsides of having an amazing legit low tier main: Your character sucks in normal play. Wins against you in low tier tournaments, which will only happen when the other player is way better than you anyways, will slightly kinda sorta minorly damage your rank a tiny little bit.

Upsides: You have a very large advantage in low tier tournaments. A very large one.

Deal with it. Eazy explained this.

I can't respond on AIM when I'm at work.

If that is what makes you think you're the leader then so be it. I think you are the best host. You provide the best venue, get things done on time, and host multiple events on the same day. As for leader, I do not blindly follow what you say. In no way do I view you as MY leader or the state's leader. If you are fine with a self-proclaimed leader title, thats fine. Don't expect me to agree with it

If you do EVERYTHING, there is no need for a panel. Why have one if thats the case?

Again, you speak words, but your actions say otherwise because you let me do everything a leader does. I don't need you to officially recognize me on the internet. Me being a leader doesn't mean you have to blindly follow what I say or sacrifice any of your pride. If that's what you think, then you don't know what leadership is.

The panel is there for the rankings. That's all. They help make the list better. The panel doesn't lead the state. I do.

 

[Kaiber Kop]

What exactly do you do to lead the state? Argue with other states about nonsense and make people view NJ as a joke?

 

[clowsui]

He leads the state by hosting most if not all of your high attendance tournaments...or at least, I think that's part of it.

/goes back to lurking

This too:

Actions speak louder than words. I don't care if people say they don't think I'm the leader because it's cool to disagree with me on the internet.

Guess what?

In the end, when it all comes down to it... I dictate the rulesets for the area. I control this ranking panel more than anyone else. I am the most active player. I am an active and successful host. I am a top player. Other regions view me as the leader. When it comes time to have a representative or a crew captain, you're all going to let me do it.

If I'm not the leader, then why do you all let me do everything a leader does?

 

[Eazy23]

He leads the state by hosting most if not all of your high attendance tournaments...or at least, I think that's part of it.

/goes back to lurking

This too:

Basically. Being seen as the leader of the state doesn't mean most liked or best player. If we need something to go down in Jersey, Inui is most likely going to make it happen. Whoever is most responsible for the progressive status of the community can be seen as the most helpful person. At this point in time, I'd probably say that is Inui, Alex for NY or Bum when he is active, Scar for PA etc.

 

[Kaiber Kop]

Basically. Being seen as the leader of the state doesn't mean most liked or best player. If we need something to go down in Jersey, Inui is most likely going to make it happen. Whoever is most responsible for the progressive status of the community can be seen as the most helpful person. At this point in time, I'd probably say that is Inui, Alex for NY or Bum when he is active, Scar for PA etc.

Alex hosts his VC event every month in Jersey City which is always very popular. Inui is a better player, but if you talk about allowing the most progression, alex hosts big events every month. Why not give him credit in NJ as well. His VC monthlies are held in NJ after all.

 

[Keitaro]

He leads the state by hosting most if not all of your high attendance tournaments...or at least, I think that's part of it.

/goes back to lurking

This too:

Viridian City hosted by Alex Strife almost always has more attendants so he doesn't host the biggest tournies more consistently in the state. Alex Strife does.

 

[ksizl4life]

Mwahaha Lets All Clock People Out With Sonic!!!!

 

[Eazy23]

True. I usually just think of Alex as NY for some reason. Those two are def the reason NJ flourishes as far as tournaments go.

 

[Kaiber Kop]

Mwahaha Lets All Clock People Out With Sonic!!!!

I've clocked more people out with sentinel(intentional) today than I have with sonic in the past year(only twice but never intentional). It's much more fun and funny

 

[★J.G WentWorth★]

Alex hosts his VC event every month in Jersey City which is always very popular. Inui is a better player, but if you talk about allowing the most progression, alex hosts big events every month. Why not give him credit in NJ as well. His VC monthlies are held in NJ after all.

True. I usually just think of Alex as NY for some reason. Those two are def the reason NJ flourishes as far as tournaments go.

In Alex Strife voice*

i quit **** NJ, I run NY <3 Inui's a babyy i quit, Crismas Crismascris, i quit, cris. APEXXX!

/lightxdream.


All of you Better be at Viridian!

Seriously.

 

[_Yes!_]

In Alex Strife voice*

i quit **** NJ, I run NY <3 Inui's a babyy i quit, Crismas Crismascris, i quit, cris. APEXXX!

/lightxdream.


All of you Better be at Viridian!

Seriously.

I'm sad we didn't hang out today

 

[★J.G WentWorth★]

I'm sad we didn't hang out today

It's all goodd bro, Double R ain't goin nowheree <3 lol

 

[ADHD]

I play Diddy Kong.

 

[_Yes!_]

I play Diddy Kong.

Congratz on getting pranked.

 

[ADHD]

Congratz on getting pranked.

Hahaha thanks, I asked a diddy friend to do it :D I'll ask you in 2 months BE READY!

 

[Inui]

What exactly do you do to lead the state? Argue with other states about nonsense and make people view NJ as a joke?

Eazy and Clowsui answer this for me.

Basically. Being seen as the leader of the state doesn't mean most liked or best player. If we need something to go down in Jersey, Inui is most likely going to make it happen. Whoever is most responsible for the progressive status of the community can be seen as the most helpful person. At this point in time, I'd probably say that is Inui, Alex for NY or Bum when he is active, Scar for PA etc.

Yuuup.

Alex hosts his VC event every month in Jersey City which is always very popular. Inui is a better player, but if you talk about allowing the most progression, alex hosts big events every month. Why not give him credit in NJ as well. His VC monthlies are held in NJ after all.

Alex is amazing.

Viridian City hosted by Alex Strife almost always has more attendants so he doesn't host the biggest tournies more consistently in the state. Alex Strife does.

If you're going to make a claim, at least have some evidence. Here, I'll do your homework for you.

Harry Potter and the Planking Meta Knight
Singles: 71
Teams: 26
Crews: 6

Hurricane Meta Knight
Singles: 50
Teams: 20

Blue Battle Circuit Finals
Amateur Singles: 40
Pro Singles: 32
Amateur Teams: 11
Pro Teams: 16

I Can’t Defeat Airman
Singles: 62
Low Tiers: 43
Teams: 26

No Maps!
Singles: 69 (17 players dropped out)
Teams: 28
Low Tier Singles: 56
Low Tier Teams: 17

<Insert about small 20 events I hosted since the fall of last year>

Road to Viridian City 1
Singles: 89
Doubles: 32

Road to Viridian City 2
Singles: 79
Doubles: 28

Road to Viridian City 3
Singles: 41
Doubles: 18

Road to Viridian City 4
Singles: 63
Doubles: 24

Take note of several things here.

-I host significantly more events.
-I've never had an event that dropped below 50 players like he did.
-Doubles is more popular at my events.
-I run more at my tournaments; crews, low tiers.
-My venue is significantly better.

Now, Alex Strife is indeed an incredible host and beneficial for NJ, but I am this state's #1 host overall. That's not really disputable.

True. I usually just think of Alex as NY for some reason. Those two are def the reason NJ flourishes as far as tournaments go.

We do keep this state alive.

 

[EmuKiller]

Phoenix Wright is one of my absolute favorites for Nintendo DS.