Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Rie Sonomura]

It was at least more relevant to game announcements than the Muppets. Green Day was promoting their Beat Saber DLC, the Muppets were...just there.

I mean do they need to promote a game related thing? They’re the freakin’ Muppets.

 

[SNEKeater]

Eddie Vedder from Pearl Jam will perform at the upcoming Game Awards. Just for that it will be worth watching.

Didn’t y’all make this joke already

Well, yes... but I never was able to do the joke myself so I guess I just wanted to make the classic joke haha

 

[cashregister9]

I will not tolerate Green Day OR Muppet slander on this thread.

It's joke I don't actually care that much

 

[SirBillyBob]

This got me thinking - when will we see the first 2020's character in Smash?

Yooooo let's go Zagreus!

Yes I know his game technically released in 2018 but that was early access so it doesn't count, 2020 baybay

 

[Gazorpazorpfield]

Yes I know his game technically released in 2018 but that was early access so it doesn't count, 2020 baybay

Tbf I'm pretty sure Smash classifies Steve as a 2011 release despite the Minecraft Beta coming out in 2009 iirc, so Zagreus would count imo

 

[Evil Trapezium]

If we get a TGA character reveal, I hope it's Axel Stone! Doom Guy and Crash Bandicoot would also be good too.

 

[7NATOR]

So if we do get a character at the Game Awards, Do you think Sakurai and Nintendo will retweet it? Got to make sure people are willing to tune in after all.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

So if we do get a character at the Game Awards, Do you think Sakurai and Nintendo will retweet it? Got to make sure people are willing to tune in after all.

Did either party retweet the 2018 reveal hint?

 

[7NATOR]

Did either party retweet the 2018 reveal hint?

Not Sure, Though to be fair Smash was coming out on the same day, So there probably was more expectation for Smash to show up in some form, even as just a mention with no DLC announcement

This year, since the game is 2 years old and not nominated, well People won't automatically assume it be there

 

[Lyncario]

Did either party retweet the 2018 reveal hint?

Pretty sure that NIntendo did retweet it in 2018, but more because they had games nominated there and because it's pretty much a formal thing to do. And I also think that Sakurai retweeted it in 2019, but because Ultimate was nominated for this year.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

It was at least more relevant to game announcements than the Muppets. Green Day was promoting their Beat Saber DLC, the Muppets were...just there.

The Muppets don't need a reason in particular.

We accept them always.

 

[7NATOR]

Oh I Forgot, Today is New Spirit Event/Tourney. Surely we'll get something new this week...

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Oh I Forgot, Today is New Spirit Event/Tourney. Surely we'll get something new this week...

What if we get literally nothing tho?

 

[Deleted member]

So if we do get a character at the Game Awards, Do you think Sakurai and Nintendo will retweet it? Got to make sure people are willing to tune in after all.

Nah Nintendo's just gonna post this and say vote Animal Crossing for GOTY or die

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

It was at least more relevant to game announcements than the Muppets. Green Day was promoting their Beat Saber DLC, the Muppets were...just there.

Are you kidding me?

Untitled Beaker Game was gold

 

[Mushroomguy12]

The Muppets don't need a reason in particular.

We accept them always.

These Muppets in particular.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Speaking of which, here's another question for this board, if you had to choose between Target Blast (Angry Birds Mode), or the regular Target Smash from the first three games to bring back as DLC for Ultimate, which would you pick?

Actually let's up it a notch and throw in Board the Platforms as well for a ranking match.

My priority would be:

1. Target Smash
2. Board the Platforms
3. Target Blast

A terrible mode at that. Break the Targets/Target Smash >>>>>>>>>>> Target Blast, in my opinion. Feel free to disagree though, I’m not the opinion police.

As bad as it was, I at least understood where the devs were coming from with this mode.

The roster was way too big to have individual Target Break levels and the Brawl strategy of having a generic one for all of them would be unfair for some characters cough Little Mac cough, so it was a bit of a necessary evil.

What made it truly terrible imo was that it was the best way to grind for customs, and that **** was painful to do.

 

[Perkilator]

As bad as it was, I at least understood where the devs were coming from with this mode.

The roster was way too big to have individual Target Break levels and the Brawl strategy of having a generic one for all of them would be unfair for some characters cough Little Mac cough, so it was a bit of a necessary evil.

What made it truly terrible imo was that it was the best way to grind for customs, and that **** was painful to do.

Know what? Not that I suddenly support it, but assuming Melee-style Target Test did come back, you think it would save a bit of dev time to copy and paste the ones from Melee? As for new ones, I was thinking they could be for the newcomers from Brawl onwards. Only things is, I think the ones for should be ground based, and should be a homage to Street Fighter II's bonus stage (the barrel one).

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Know what? Not that I suddenly support it, but assuming Melee-style Target Test did come back, you think it would save a bit of dev time to copy and paste the ones from Melee?

I feel like some would be terribly outdated, but even if they did that and made it work, that's only 25 characters down. They'd still need to do 63 new ones.

and should be a homage to Street Fighter II's bonus stage (the barrel one).

Now I just want the bonus stage to be the character breaking a Honda (not to be confused with E. Honda )

 

[Perkilator]

I feel like some would be terribly outdated, but even if they did that and made it work, that's only 25 characters down. They'd still need to do 63 new ones.

Don't worry, I did mention new ones in the post you quoted.

 

[Idon]

Exhibit A as to why Dante is going to make a resurgence in TGAs in the form of a Smash character.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Don't worry, I did mention new ones in the post you quoted.

They'd still need to do over 60 of them even if they did the time save of porting the Melee stuff, so at this point, might as well go all out (though 64 and Melee can be used as a basis, I guess)

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Exhibit A as to why Dante is going to make a resurgence in TGAs in the form of a Smash character.

This song still ****ing bangs

 

[Inue Houji]

I really don't get the hype about Devil Trigger.

 

[Lamperouge]

I really don't get the hype about Devil Trigger.

Yeah, Bury the Light slaps way harder.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Soooo I take it no spirit/tourney update yet?

 

[cashregister9]

【スピリッツイベント】
12/4(金)から3日間、スピリッツボードで「ありがとう！ スマブラSP発売2周年」を開催！ 期間中はバトル後にもらえる経験値とSPが3倍になるほか、アイテム「再挑戦」を追加で入手できます。#スマブラSP pic.twitter.com/YjLpT4ETOb

— 大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズ【スマブラ公式】 (@SmashBrosJP) December 2, 2020

2nd anniversary Spirit event

 

[Rie Sonomura]

【スピリッツイベント】
12/4(金)から3日間、スピリッツボードで「ありがとう！ スマブラSP発売2周年」を開催！ 期間中はバトル後にもらえる経験値とSPが3倍になるほか、アイテム「再挑戦」を追加で入手できます。#スマブラSP pic.twitter.com/YjLpT4ETOb

— 大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズ【スマブラ公式】 (@SmashBrosJP) December 2, 2020

2nd anniversary Spirit event

I wonder what the third anniversary’s picture will look like... feels surreal to see Byleth, Min Min, Steve and Alex there already

 

[Nazyrus]

So… that's how they are gonna celebrate it

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Man, has it really been 2 years?

Time flies

 

[PSIGuy]

Someone posted a comparison of the two anniversary spirit icons -
https://twitter.com/justajagain/status/1333939658967945216?s=20
...the only additions were Byleth, Minmin and Steve. That's what we got in a whole year. Jesus.

 

[Shroob]

I'd have been shocked if they had actually pulled out the red carpet for the anni tbh.

Outside of 5 year intervals, companies rarely ever do 'big' celebrations tbh.

 

[Perkilator]

Someone posted a comparison of the two anniversary spirit icons -
https://twitter.com/justajagain/status/1333939658967945216?s=20
...the only additions were Byleth, Minmin and Steve. That's what we got in a whole year. Jesus.

I guess you're forgetting that one of those three caused the devs to rework every damn stage in the game to make him work.

Which, mind you, was likely affected by the pandemic.

 

[AmphabulouSnake]

Man, has it really already been 2 years?

Time flies

It's almost surreal seeing this. I mean people will say Ultimate brought the least amount of newcomer at launch (which is true) but I like taking into account all the returning veterans who didn't make it to Smash 4 or Brawl, it's amazing, plus with all the dlc now which isn't even over yet phew
(Also your pfp is incredible)

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Someone posted a comparison of the two anniversary spirit icons -
https://twitter.com/justajagain/status/1333939658967945216?s=20
...the only additions were Byleth, Minmin and Steve. That's what we got in a whole year. Jesus.

To be fair the ones that were in the first anniversary pic have different poses now

Joker got a JoJo Reference pose going on

 

[Guynamednelson]

Someone posted a comparison of the two anniversary spirit icons -
https://twitter.com/justajagain/status/1333939658967945216?s=20
...the only additions were Byleth, Minmin and Steve. That's what we got in a whole year. Jesus.

Seems like they had to use both Byleths and Alex in order to pad out the 2020 additions.

 

[chocolatejr9]

To be fair the ones that were in the first anniversary pic have different poses now

Joker got a JoJo Reference pose going on

That's implying Persona isn't one big JoJo reference.

 

[PeridotGX]

I wonder what the third anniversary’s picture will look like... feels surreal to see Byleth, Min Min, Steve and Alex there already

it's gonna be wild seeing an undertale character on there.

 

[SharkLord]

Random thought:
Do you think Min Min's delay wasn't just because of Min Min's unique playstyle, but also so the gap between her and Steve wasn't too big? I'd imagine a gap between passes wouldn't be as bad as a gap in the middle of a pass. Still, they explicitly cited Min Min's stretchy arms as a reason as to the delay, so at most Steve would only be partially responsible.

 

[Guynamednelson]

it's gonna be wild seeing an undertale character on there.

Oh jeez, are the 2021 additions gonna be so small that they have to use the deluxe Mii costumes for even more padding?