Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[PeridotGX]

It wasn't an ad I linked to: again, it was choice of music in a Minecraft tournament - I'll reiterate, Devil Trigger does not fit a competitive Minecraft stream. And IIRC DMC V has not seen an official Chinese release which makes the music choice even weirder. Even if NetEase offers what's practically VPNs officially and the Chinese government tolerates that.

That said, uuuuuhm... that ad is certainly an ad.



Hmm.... Chrono (and Serge) are IIRC silent. Chell is another possibility, although there might be another HEV suit situation here if GLaDOS does the talking. If Sakurai / Nintendo wanted to go for some really unexpected characters, there's the Sims or even Myst as possibilities.

Maybe Frisk, depending on how literally they would take things from Undertale.

 

[SNEKeater]

Replying to my old post about my theory, my Sound test voice theory got things right for the fighters pass 1, Terry filled in one empty voice spot and Byleth and his female alt filled in 2 empty voice spots.

Now there are currently 5 empty voice slots in the voice clip section of the sound test menu as of 9.0.0 and since Steve/Alex/Zombie/Enderman doesn't have a voice, this means we are most likely getting a fighter with a different character/opposite gender alt with a different voice in the fighters pass vol. 2 but there is still a chance that we may not get one.

Sol Badguy Voices (Guilty Gear)

Voiced most times by David Forseth, Jōji Nakata. Images of the Sol Badguy voice actors from the Guilty Gear franchise.

www.behindthevoiceactors.com

List of VAs:
Joji Kanata
Daisuke Ishiwatari (which is also the creator of the series, btw)

This is how Sol Badguy can win

PD: Also I didn't remember Troy Baker actually voiced him lmao, I'm pretty sure he doesn't even remember it

 

[Sari]

That voiceline theory is interesting.

But just to check something: after Min Min released but before Steve was announced, were there 9 empty voiceline slots?

 

[RileyXY1]

That voiceline theory is interesting.

But just to check something: after Min Min released but before Steve was announced, were there 9 empty voiceline slots?

Steve and co don't have voices.

 

[The Prankster 16]

That voiceline theory is interesting.

But just to check something: after Min Min released but before Steve was announced, were there 9 empty voiceline slots?

I think the slots were only found recently, but steve and his alts do not have voices

 

[Eldrake]

If one of the DLC fighters has a transformation, then that could warrant an extra voiceline slot. As a hypothetical example, Agumon with a Greymon/WarGreymon transformation.

 

[XorahnGaia]

Are we talking about actual voice slots found in the game files or whatever or the "squares" that you can select to listen to a character voice sample on the menu?

Because from what I have seen the original post was about the latter case, and I don't exactly want to ruin anyone's fun here, but from past examples, the Smash team hasn't shown to care about making everything a perfect rectangle, and I doubt that would be the case for FP2 since not all of it was planned from the beginning as far as we know.

 

[3BitSaurus]

It wasn't an ad I linked to: again, it was choice of music in a Minecraft tournament - I'll reiterate, Devil Trigger does not fit a competitive Minecraft stream. And IIRC DMC V has not seen an official Chinese release which makes the music choice even weirder. Even if NetEase offers what's practically VPNs officially and the Chinese government tolerates that.

That said, uuuuuhm... that ad is certainly an ad.

Yeah, I was mostly talking about weird decisions made for esports marketing in general.

Tbh, they should have used Your Legacy instead. After all, in Minecraft, there is no mountain too tall to overcome.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

That voiceline theory is interesting.

But just to check something: after Min Min released but before Steve was announced, were there 9 empty voiceline slots?

Wait 9? First time I’ve heard of this

 

[RileyXY1]

They were found recently, and Steve and co don't take up slots as they don't have voices.

 

[Faso115]

If one of the DLC fighters has a transformation, then that could warrant an extra voiceline slot. As a hypothetical example, Agumon with a Greymon/WarGreymon transformation.

Voice actors are a different thing, some fighterz have multiple voices and are still in the same folders though the only one that comes to mind is Banjo/Kazooie.

Do Nana and Popo have separate folders?

 

[Guynamednelson]

Voice actors are a different thing, some fighterz have multiple voices and are still in the same folders though the only one that comes to mind is Banjo/Kazooie.

Do Nana and Popo have separate folders?

Both those duos use the same folders.

 

[StrangeKitten]

There are many characters who could have two voices. Male/female alts, different ages (Ike), duo character like Rex & Pyra (these usually share the same slot but maybe?), different characters for different alts ala Bowser Jr (can just be two characters, wouldn't have to be eight). Additionally, as is the case with Steve, we don't know if another mute character will be added. No one really comes to mind, but you never know. So we could even have more voice slots than we think if that ends up happening. The game also isn't going to explode or anything if a voice slot or two don't end up filled. So like, voice theory is interesting, but doesn't really help us narrow the choices down

 

[Powerman293]

Voice Theory seems like M Theory in that it's so broad in scope as to who it applies to (if it is true, which I doubt) that it's basically useless.

 

[Faso115]

Imagine getting a character that is like Ike. The other costumes makes them sound slightly different.

 

[SKX31]

Imagine getting a character that is like Ike. The other costumes makes them sound slightly different.

Shaggy with Ultra Instinct alternate costume letsgo

Edit: Swing and a miss.

 

[andree123]

Are we talking about actual voice slots found in the game files or whatever or the "squares" that you can select to listen to a character voice sample on the menu?

We're talking about the one in bold.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I think if it was a duo character like the Astral Chain MC or Rex & Pyra they’d share a folder, like the Ice Climbers. Final Smash/Stage cameos count for some reason too as I think I found Viridi (stage element)’s voice clips in Pit’s folder, and Dunban/Riki (final Smash) in Shulk’s. Funny that Fiora doesn’t have a voice despite her appearing in the same FS

To me the only possibilities are: different age versions like with Ike, male and female options (Inkling, Byleth, Robin, Corrin, WFT), or full voiced alts like with the other Heroes

 

[JOJONumber691]

I think a character like this could potentially be Gran and Djeeta if they get a Proportional Overhaul.

 

[Jocario Zero]

I think if it was a duo character like the Astral Chain MC or Rex & Pyra they’d share a folder, like the Ice Climbers. Final Smash/Stage cameos count for some reason too as I think I found Viridi (stage element)’s voice clips in Pit’s folder, and Dunban/Riki (final Smash) in Shulk’s. Funny that Fiora doesn’t have a voice despite her appearing in the same FS

To me the only possibilities are: different age versions like with Ike, male and female options (Inkling, Byleth, Robin, Corrin, WFT), or full voiced alts like with the other Heroes

Fiora not having a voice (not even voice clips from Xenoblade like Dunban and Riki) bothers me so much.

 

[SKX31]

I think if it was a duo character like the Astral Chain MC or Rex & Pyra they’d share a folder, like the Ice Climbers. Final Smash/Stage cameos count for some reason too as I think I found Viridi (stage element)’s voice clips in Pit’s folder, and Dunban/Riki (final Smash) in Shulk’s. Funny that Fiora doesn’t have a voice despite her appearing in the same FS

To me the only possibilities are: different age versions like with Ike, male and female options (Inkling, Byleth, Robin, Corrin, WFT), or full voiced alts like with the other Heroes

Final Smash / stage cameos probably are in the character's respective folders due to simplicity. There would be no need to create a separate "Chrom" (which is ironic, yes) and "Sothis" categories, nor "Morgana" when they only have 3-10 clips at most (Sothis has 3, Morgana has 10) The other ARMS characters notably don't have a selectable voiceline in the menu, although they're just grunts anyhow. And Viridi's in the "enemy" folder (at least currently) together with MONADO BOY Metal Face and the Hands.

As for Fiora... I'll chalk that up to Sakurai and co. not having all the time in the world. I can imagine that they were doing as much as they could with Furukawa / Nintendo's other execs (this group also includes Miyamoto) wanting to secure the Holiday 2018 window with the game's release, and as such Fiora and other stuff simply wound up low on the priority list. There's a lot of reused voice clips all over the place after all.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Thought this video would be worth the discussion.

It suddenly makes me rather certain we could see Crash, by no means he's close to a lock but it seems his chances might be looking good given the popularity factor combined with voice theory of having Coco as a costume or Aku Aku being his Final Smash and part of his victory animation.

Other popular characters.

Dante
Lloyd Irving
Monster Hunter
Sora (Though Disney could be an obstacle preventing that)

To name a few others.

 

[RawstyleEevee]

Thought this video would be worth the discussion.

It suddenly makes me rather certain we could see Crash, by no means he's close to a lock but it seems his chances might be looking good given the popularity factor combined with voice theory of having Coco as a costume or Aku Aku being his Final Smash and part of his victory animation.

Other popular characters.

Dante
Lloyd Irving
Monster Hunter
Sora (Though Disney could be an obstacle preventing that)

To name a few others.

Seeing that all Persona 5 party members are in the same voice file as Joker, your Aku Aku Final Smash example does not take up a voice slot (Coco would be a different story if she's an alt)

The real question is where there 2 dummy slots for Byleth when the Terry update released, because then this theory has alot of credibility imo

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Seeing that all Persona 5 party members are in the same voice file as Joker, your Aku Aku Final Smash example does not take up a voice slot (Coco would be a different story if she's an alt)

The real question is where there 2 dummy slots for Byleth when the Terry update released, because then this theory has alot of credibility imo

Guess Coco as a costume then if Crash is in which could relate to Voice Theory.

 

[RileyXY1]

Guess Coco as a costume then if Crash is in which could relate to Voice Theory.

Except proportions wouldn't match up.

 

[cashregister9]

Except proportions wouldn't match up.

If they create their own design for Crash like they did with Banjo it could work.

Also The koopalings all have unique proportions and they all fit with Bowser Jr. and if we are getting super nitpicky, Enderman has skinnier arms and legs than Steve or Alex.

 

[TheBeastHimself]

This deserves its own voice file

 

[RileyXY1]

Crash 4 not coming to the Switch makes me doubt Crash's chances.

 

[TheBeastHimself]

Crash 4 not coming to the Switch makes me doubt Crash's chances.

I'm sure it'll eventually find its way to the Switch a few months or a year after it comes out. The same thing happened with the N. Sane and Reignited Trilogy. It will undoubtedly be on the Switch at some point.

 

[RileyXY1]

I'm sure it'll eventually find its way to the Switch a few months or a year after it comes out. The same thing happened with the N. Sane and Reignited Trilogy. It will undoubtedly be on the Switch at some point.

I think that it might be too advanced for the Switch to handle and that it would be on the PS5 and XBox Series X instead.

 

[Perkilator]

Crash 4 not coming to the Switch makes me doubt Crash's chances.

It'll come out in about a year. That's what Activision's been doing since the N. Sane Trilogy (the only real exception being CTR Nitro Fueled).

 

[RawstyleEevee]

I think that it might be too advanced for the Switch to handle and that it would be on the PS5 and XBox Series X instead.

wasn't a Switch version datamined though from the official website?

 

[RileyXY1]

wasn't a Switch version datamined though from the official website?

It might be cancelled, like what I think is gonna happen with Doom Eternal's Switch port.

 

[cashregister9]

I think that it might be too advanced for the Switch to handle and that it would be on the PS5 and XBox Series X instead.

Doom 2016 is more Graphically intensive than Crash 4 and Doom 2016 runs just fine on the switch also a switch port was leaked

 

[TheBeastHimself]

I think that it might be too advanced for the Switch to handle and that it would be on the PS5 and XBox Series X instead.

I don't think it has even been announced to be on PS5 or Xbox Series X, and it's already on PS4 and Xbox One. I mean, it'll probably be ported over to next-gen. But at the same time, there's also a listing for a Switch version in the site's source code.

We can agree to disagree on this, but I think there's no problem for Crash 4 coming to Switch.

 

[RileyXY1]

Besides, Activision might want to put someone else in Smash instead.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Except proportions wouldn't match up.

That's where your wrong.

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You don't need height or proportions to be a costume. As long as you have the same hitbox which Crash and Coco do.

Female Byleth as mentioned in the video is shorter than male Byleth. The Koopalings also have different height and body proportions from Jr.

So it could work for Crash.

Also, not every game old or new not coming to Switch doesn't affect their chances of coming in.

May I remind you of Cloud and Joker who barely has any Nintendo history, and yes I know they've been on some games before that were on Nintendo consoles but the fact remains they have little history.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Sora (Though Disney could be an obstacle preventing that)

Disney will still have to go to Square Enix to ask nomura for permission to use him. Since namora made Sora they can't just use him without the makers permission

 

[Michael the Spikester]

So Crash can still work for voice theory.

 

[TheBeastHimself]

Besides, Activision might want to put someone else in Smash instead.

True, but before even Banjo came out one could have said Microsoft would rather put in Master Chief. It's completely up in the air and nobody knows so you could be right, but I wouldn't count out Crash or underestimate him.