Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[3BitSaurus]

"Here's Kratos for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate and also please buy Playstation All Stars: Battle Royale."

-Sakurai, in an alternate dimension.​

Keep in mind, the only reason I even bring that up is due to Sony launching certain games on other platforms (namely Steam).

But yeah, there's a bigger chance of Sakurai actually being named Mashed Potato Soccer Guy in an alternate dimension than Sony and Nintendo collabbing for a promotional Direct on this one.

 

[RileyXY1]

I think that they could announce a 3rd Party fighter in a Sakurai Presents.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I think that they could announce a 3rd Party fighter in a Sakurai Presents.

I’m not so sure about that. So far the only characters to be announced in a Sakurai Presents were both first party (Byleth & Min Min). Three third parties that were shown off in Sakurai Presents (Hero, Banjo & Terry) were already revealed beforehand.

Joker was a shadowdropped Smash Direct-style presentation (the one that showed his full trailer and the stage builder), not a Sakurai Presents per se

 

[SKX31]

Considering there was probably some incentive from Tencent involved in making Unite a solo presentation, I can definitely see it happening with a LoL character - especially because we haven't received any more news on that Wild Rift port.

Besides Riot and Microsoft, I suppose I could see Activision doing something similar. And Sony, I guess, but that chance is laughably small.

Considering Tencent's M.O. is - to oversimplify: "Throw money, ¥€$ lots of money, at whatever we do." I wouldn't be surprised if they did that with - Oh yeaaaah, Tencent's Vice President did appear in the Unite presentation. There was almost assuredly some incentive involved.

"Here's Kratos for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate and also please buy Playstation All Stars: Battle Royale."

-Sakurai, in an alternate dimension.​

"And also, here's Mario for Playstation All Stars: Battle Royale. Do note that his attack strings involve him throwing lots of items at his foes - like his cape, Koopa Shells, and Cappy."

 

[SharkLord]

I’m not so sure about that. So far the only characters to be announced in a Sakurai Presents were both first party (Byleth & Min Min). Three third parties that were shown off in Sakurai Presents (Hero, Banjo & Terry) were already revealed beforehand.

Joker was a shadowdropped Smash Direct-style presentation (the one that showed his full trailer and the stage builder), not a Sakurai Presents per se

Byleth and Min Min didn't have a direct preceding them, so they weren't announced then. Joker has a stylized presentation and nobody else because Joker blew their presentation budget, forcing them to stick to the livestream format for all future overviews.

 

[I.D.]

I mean, does it really matter if third parties don't "like" their characters being revealed in their own presentation? What are they gonna do, force Nintendo to put a direct together? Put a direct together for them?
Do third parties "like" their games being announced in partner showcases instead of directs?

 

[SKX31]

In b4 Nintendo shadowdrops FP7 at Opening Night Live (because it's the Game Awards channel hosting it).

(I'm bookmarking this in the ludicrously unlikely case that it comes true.)

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Say uh doesn’t Gamescom start today?

 

[cashregister9]

Nintendo isn't doing anything at Gamescom don't expect anything from them

 

[Calamitas]

Say uh doesn’t Gamescom start today?

Certainly this week at least. But again, there's absolutely no chance of there being anything from Nintendo themselves there, since

1. Nintendo never makes any announcements at Gamescom
2. They aren't even at this year's Gamescom since it became a digital-only event

The only thing we might get out of Gamescom is some third-party game announcements.

 

[SKX31]

Say uh doesn’t Gamescom start today?

The pre-show has begun (edit: and it starts at 20 CEST / 14 EDT). Opening Night Live is essentially the kick off it seems.

 

[kylexv]

I would say announcing a character through a Sakurai Presents is a likely sign that the character is first party.

 

[Dr. Yatagarasu]

The pre-show has begun. Opening Night Live is essentially the kick off it seems.

Ford just showed up in the pre-show.
I can't believe I live in a world where a Ford spokesman saying "We are making a Gamer Car" is a thing
has enough flashy LEDs to be a real gamer car too

 

[Perkilator]

I would say announcing a character through a Sakurai Presents is a likely sign that the character is first party.

I mean...just because we haven't had a third party revealed in a Sakurai Presents yet doesn't mean it won't happen ever.

 

[3BitSaurus]

In b4 Nintendo shadowdrops FP7 at Opening Night Live (because it's the Game Awards channel hosting it).

(I'm bookmarking this in the ludicrously unlikely case that it comes true.)

Out of curiosity, if it did indeed happen: what characters/companies do you think would be involved?

 

[Dr. Yatagarasu]

Jurassic World Evolution just got announced for switch

t-rex for smash

 

[Cosmic77]

With how unpredictable things have been this year, it's possible for a third-party to be revealed in a Sakurai Presents. Actually, they might have to do exactly that if the silence continues.

I'm not sure if it ever really mattered if the character was first or third-party though. Byleth and Min Min may have been in a Sakurai Presents, but two is the bare minimum for a pattern.

 

[cashregister9]

There have only been 2 directs with character announcements there have only been 2 character announcements via Sakurai Presents there was even 1 character announcement via Award Show, There was a series announcement at a mini direct so I personally don't think that there is a precedent for when a character could be announced

 

[ShrimpScampi]

Jurassic World Evolution just got announced for switch

t-rex for smash

t-rex and t-pyra

and the t-rex’s roars are replaced with rex’s screams from xenoblade 2

 

[Curious Villager]

I mean, wasn't ARMS in general technically revealed for Smash at a Direct first? The character in specific was revealed at a Sakurai showcase tho, so its kind of like, more of a gray area I suppose...

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I think it's best not to try and create patterns right now.

Considering circumstances, I'm not sure Nintendo even knows if they'll have any consistency.

 

[Calamitas]

I think it's best not to try and create patterns right now.

Well, there goes my current plans for my island in Animal Crossing.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

No, Nintendo isnt at Gamescom

Yes SE is at Gamescom

No, dont expect anything smash brothers related at Gamescom

no

 

[Rie Sonomura]

SE is at Gamescom

if I can at least get a TWEWY 2 announcement that’s all I need

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

if I can at least get a TWEWY 2 announcement that’s all I need

Im at least 80% sure thats not gonna happen

 

[CrusherMania1592]

No, Nintendo isnt at Gamescom

Yes SE is at Gamescom

No, dont expect anything smash brothers related at Gamescom

no

GENO CONFIRMED TO NOT BE PLAYABLE

let the fireworks begin

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Gamescom is putting me into foodcoma and I didnt even eat anything

 

[Gribbo]

No, Nintendo isnt at Gamescom

Yes SE is at Gamescom

No, dont expect anything smash brothers related at Gamescom

no

Watch it just be Rogue Company again.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

ayo, Im about to go into a coma. Tell me if bravcely shows up

 

[StrangeKitten]

ayo, Im about to go into a coma. Tell me if bravcely shows up

I figured Gamescom would have very little I'd be interested in. Looks like I was right to not watch it. Figure if anything big for Nintendo gets announced, miniscule though the chance of that happening may be, I'll just learn about it here or on YouTube after the fact

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

that's it?

no smash?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I give it until tomorrow for a announcement of a Sskurai presents. If nothing then were its September given amiibo theory.

 

[SharkLord]

that's it?

no smash?

Hotel Mario voice No.

 

[7NATOR]

Something I Wonder, Do you guys think they Decide the order of the Pass As they Negotiate for the characters (So First characters negotiated are characters first in Pass) or do you think the characters are all Negotiated, then they decide the order after all of them are negotiated

 

[Jomosensual]

if I can at least get a TWEWY 2 announcement that’s all I need

Or a prequel called The Word Starts With You

 

[Cap'n Jack]

As someone who really does not care for Geno I and would have little to no hype for him, I’m kinda rooting for the little guy precisely because so many people actively root against him.

 

[SharkLord]

As someone who really does not care for age I and would have little to no hype for him, I’m kinda rooting for the little guy precisely because so many people actively root against him.

If I may ask, which little guy are you referring to?

 

[Dinoman96]

I get the feeling we're probably waiting until early October for the next character...at least, their release.

The fact that we got a mini-update earlier this month with Small Battlefield is probably an indicator that the main course isn't due for awhile now. This pretty much happened last year: On May 30th, we got a "major" update with no characters, but inclusions of other stuff like VR Mode. We had to then wait exactly two months to get Hero at the end of July. These smaller updates are clearly something the developers are throwing together when it looks like the next fighter is still far off.

So yeah. My prediction is that we'll get the reveal in a Sakurai presentation around the last week of September, and the character will be released a week or two later in October.

 

[Cosmic77]

Something I Wonder, Do you guys think they Decide the order of the Pass As they Negotiate for the characters (So First characters negotiated are characters first in Pass) or do you think the characters are all Negotiated, then they decide the order after all of them are negotiated

Unless there's more to the story, Hero sort of debunks this. He should've been a base roster character, but was ultimately pushed back to DLC. It's highly unlikely Joker had been negotiated before him.

 

[Will]

wtf why wouldn't they show smash this is outrageous!?