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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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I mean, I don't really care either. It's an Indie Direct. It's gonna be 20 minute video of a bunch of Steam games I probably already have getting ported to Switch. Never anything I get excited over.
That's a fine stance to take. But I feel like demeaning Nintendo gives us a main direct is going a bit on the entitled side(which is what most of the comment chains amount to)
 

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I was talking about the march mini direct and the partner direct from last month. In reference to the people now trying to use him as an example of not being trustworthy because they didn't like what we got last month.
Ohhh, right. I completely forgot that he also called the March one.
 

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Oh right I forgot to share what he actually said

 

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... whose this again?
It's actually a hint towards the next Smash character:
  • See, if we take Captain Tsubasa's last name, we get part of the name of an anime.
  • The main character of said anime, is a dude named Syaoran.
  • The main plot focuses on his love for a girl named Sakura.
  • Sakura is also the name of a character in Sakura Wars
  • Therefore, Sakura for Smash confirmed.
See? Easy!
 
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Guess we'll see how this goes. I'm personally feeling either nothing or a Partner Showcase, but hey, anything's possible. I'd love to be wrong. :dr^_^:
I'm hoping we get more news next week but I'm not really feeling it. Same as you I would looooove to be wrong though, more news is more news.
 
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After the confirmation for the Indie Showcase, I'm like 99% convinced we're gonna get a direct next week, as Zell suggested.
If it's gonna be a general direct or not, I'm not that sure. Maybe a Partner Showcase, but a very short one like the previous one would be disappointing. I honestly wouldn't mind another Partner Showcase if it has a decent duration and more games.

But I guess at that point they could just do a Mini, which is also fine by me. Better that than literally nothing and NoA Twitter ****posting everyday lmao

Edit:

Jeff Grubb updated his Summer Game Mess thing


He added another Nintendo Wildcard option at the end of August, maybe pointing out the rumoured Direct? Maybe he's talking about another thing.
 
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It's been awhile since we've had an Indie World, but it was definitely much needed. Indie games rarely get showcased on Directs themselves, so having a broadcast dedicated to those games gives them the spotlight they need.

As for the next rumored Direct, there isn't a reason to believe it wouldn't be another Mini-Partner Showcase. Insiders do get the dates right, but they don't really touch on what will be shown off on them or how long the Directs will be. Maybe Nintendo will also bring up something 1st Party related when they make the announcement, but I'm not going to bank on it.
 

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I think between the bitter aftertaste of Partner Showcase and the general weekly direct speculation that's gone nowhere, many of us won't entirely believe a sort of general presentation is coming until we see the actual Nintendo tweet (and some of us not until the actual video itself starts).

"Hey guys, its a video from Sakurai talking about the 45 minute Direct next week"

"Eh, its probably deepfaked by 4chan."
 

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Yeah... uh... Twitter people are not happy to say the least
There was a problem fetching the tweet
Like geez, half of the top threads come as as super entitled "GIVE ME A GENERAL DIRECT *****!" kinda people
lol "1295345739565092866 is not a valid tweet id" Guess he figured out how stupid it was to post that and deleted it
 

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"Hey guys, its a video from Sakurai talking about the 45 minute Direct next week"

"Eh, its probably deepfaked by 4chan."
Depends on whether or not the Direct's content is something like this:

  • Devil May Cry 5
  • Advance Wars 5
  • Mario Golf Switch
  • Eternal Darkness HD
  • Dark Souls 2
  • Animal Crossing Festival
  • New Smash character
  • Extensive apology for the lack of Metroid Prime 4 details
 

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I think between the bitter aftertaste of Partner Showcase and the general weekly direct speculation that's gone nowhere, many of us won't entirely believe a sort of general presentation is coming until we see the actual Nintendo tweet (and some of us not until the actual video itself starts).

"Hey guys, its a video from Sakurai talking about the 45 minute Direct next week"

"Eh, its probably deepfaked by 4chan."
You expect 4chan users to have the computing horsepower to make a convincing deepfake of Sakurai?

Well.. at least the /v/ users. /g/ might have you covered.
 

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I made a hypothetical DLC pack for reiji from PXZ

I looked at how Terry used KOF's crossover aspect for his board and how Minmin used spirits that were in base game when making this:

Character: Reiji

Spirit board:
Xiaomu
Tenzai
Mii
Heihachi
Kite
KOSMOS
Haken browning
Valkyrie
X
Akira Yuki
Fiora
Tiki

Stage: Shibuya 109

Music:

Brave new world (Namco X Capcom)
Someday under the moonlight (Namco X Capcom)
Locus to certain victory (Namco X Capcom)
Wind wanderer (Project X Zone)
All the world's a stage (Project X Zone 2)
New world project (Project X Zone 2)
Adventure of the Valkyrie theme song
Stairs of time (.Hack series)
Fury sparks (Tales of vesperia)
ROCKS (Super Robot wars series)
Shadow haze (Tekken 7 series)
 

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I made a hypothetical DLC pack for reiji from PXZ

I looked at how Terry used KOF's crossover aspect for his board and how Minmin used spirits that were in base game when making this:

Character: Reiji

Spirit board:
Xiaomu
Tenzai
Mii
Heihachi
Kite
KOSMOS
Haken browning
Valkyrie
X
Akira Yuki
Fiora
Tiki

Stage: Shibuya 109

Music:

Brave new world (Namco X Capcom)
Someday under the moonlight (Namco X Capcom)
Locus to certain victory (Namco X Capcom)
Wind wanderer (Project X Zone)
All the world's a stage (Project X Zone 2)
New world project (Project X Zone 2)
Adventure of the Valkyrie theme song
Stairs of time (.Hack series)
Fury sparks (Tales of vesperia)
ROCKS (Super Robot wars series)
Shadow haze (Tekken 7 series)
Would Ryu, Ken, Chrom and Lucina be allies in various spirit board fights?
 

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I made a hypothetical DLC pack for reiji from PXZ

I looked at how Terry used KOF's crossover aspect for his board and how Minmin used spirits that were in base game when making this:

Character: Reiji

Spirit board:
Xiaomu
Tenzai
Mii
Heihachi
Kite
KOSMOS
Haken browning
Valkyrie
X
Akira Yuki
Fiora
Tiki

Stage: Shibuya 109

Music:

Brave new world (Namco X Capcom)
Someday under the moonlight (Namco X Capcom)
Locus to certain victory (Namco X Capcom)
Wind wanderer (Project X Zone)
All the world's a stage (Project X Zone 2)
New world project (Project X Zone 2)
Adventure of the Valkyrie theme song
Stairs of time (.Hack series)
Fury sparks (Tales of vesperia)
ROCKS (Super Robot wars series)
Shadow haze (Tekken 7 series)
I actually think Reiju & Xiaomu have a non zero chance that music list is very very good. but for the spirits I think it would be based off of namco x capcom purely for diversity's sake
 
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It's actually a hint towards the next Smash character:
  • See, if we take Captain Tsubasa's last name, we get part of the name of an anime.
  • The main character of said anime, is a dude named Syaoran.
  • The main plot focuses on his love for a girl named Sakura.
  • Sakura is also the name of a character in Sakura Wars
  • Therefore, Sakura for Smash confirmed.
See? Easy!
Ah yes, Sakura Ogami from Danganronpa.
 

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I actually think Reiju & Xiaomu have a non zero chance that music list is very very good but for the spirits I think it wouldbe based off of namco x capcom purely for diversity's sake
I think it makes sense to have Haken on the board because Haken and reiji are friends in the mcu esque shared universe that PXZ/Robot wars/Endless frontier/Xenosaga reside in. Same with Kosmos.
 
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Here's a question I just thought of:

If your most wanted got in, what music tracks would you want to come with it?

Considering my most wanted is Young Wizard, from a mmorpg with literal hundreds of tracks and an entire nother game to pull content from, I'm gonna narrow it down to 10 and just list them, because embeding 10 tracks is both laggy and not very efficent. For me... I would pick these 10:

  • Wizard City Combat(Wizard101: Wizard City)
  • Vs Kane(Pirate101: Valencia)
  • Cool Ranch Combat(Pirate101: Cool Ranch)
  • Mirage Chronoverge Combat(Wizard101: Chronoverge, aka Vs Grandfather Spider)
  • Aquila Epic Combat(Wizard101: Tartarous, aka the Hell dungeon)
  • Dragonspyre Combat(Wizard101: Dragonspyre)
  • Monquista Combat(Pirate101: Monquista)
  • Vs Rasputin(Wizard101: Polaris)
  • Empyrea Zanadu Combat(Wizard101: Empyrea)
  • Empyrea Aero Plains Combat(Wizard101: Empyrea)
Yeah I know none of these names are particularly inspiring or anything, but it's the best I got.
 
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Oh right I forgot to share what he actually said

Not pictured: Tweet that shows the date of the 'Next Meal' being mid-late October.
 

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Here's a question I just thought of:

If your most wanted got in, what music tracks would you want to come with it?

Considering my most wanted is Young Wizard, from a mmorpg with literal hundreds of tracks and an entire nother game to pull content from, I'm gonna narrow it down to 10 and just list them, because embeding 10 tracks is both laggy and not very efficent. For me... I would pick these 10:

  • Wizard City Combat(Wizard101: Wizard City)
  • Vs Kane(Pirate101: Valencia)
  • Cool Ranch Combat(Pirate101: Cool Ranch)
  • Mirage Chronoverge Combat(Wizard101: Chronoverge, aka Vs Grandfather Spider)
  • Aquila Epic Combat(Wizard101: Tartarous, aka the Hell dungeon)
  • Dragonspyre Combat(Wizard101: Dragonspyre)
  • Monquista Combat(Pirate101: Monquista)
  • Vs Rasputin(Wizard101: Polaris)
  • Empyrea Zanadu Combat(Wizard101: Empyrea)
  • Empyrea Aero Plains Combat(Wizard101: Empyrea)
Yeah I know none of these names are particularly inspiring or anything, but it's the best I got.
 

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Here's a question I just thought of:

If your most wanted got in, what music tracks would you want to come with it?

Considering my most wanted is Young Wizard, from a mmorpg with literal hundreds of tracks and an entire nother game to pull content from, I'm gonna narrow it down to 10 and just list them, because embeding 10 tracks is both laggy and not very efficent. For me... I would pick these 10:

  • Wizard City Combat(Wizard101: Wizard City)
  • Vs Kane(Pirate101: Valencia)
  • Cool Ranch Combat(Pirate101: Cool Ranch)
  • Mirage Chronoverge Combat(Wizard101: Chronoverge, aka Vs Grandfather Spider)
  • Aquila Epic Combat(Wizard101: Tartarous, aka the Hell dungeon)
  • Dragonspyre Combat(Wizard101: Dragonspyre)
  • Monquista Combat(Pirate101: Monquista)
  • Vs Rasputin(Wizard101: Polaris)
  • Empyrea Zanadu Combat(Wizard101: Empyrea)
  • Empyrea Aero Plains Combat(Wizard101: Empyrea)
Yeah I know none of these names are particularly inspiring or anything, but it's the best I got.
I want to say how much I respect wanting Wizard 101 content in smash

My list for Estelle would be:
Victory music:
Target Vanquished!

Remixes:

Whereabouts of the light
Sophisticated Fight
Fateful Confrontation

Regular music:

Strepitoso Fight
Determination of fight
The Merciless Savior
Silver Will
The Glint of Cold Steel
Get Over The Barrier!
Azure Arbitrator
Valestein Castle (From Ys)
Sunshine Coastline (From Ys)
Gadobadorrer (From Brandish)
Earnestly Advance (From Tokyo Xanadu)
Demon Lord Vesper (From Zwei!!)
Soaring Through Azure Sadness (From Gurumin)

In a perfect world we could get SNK levels of music
 
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Here's a question I just thought of:

If your most wanted got in, what music tracks would you want to come with it?

Considering my most wanted is Young Wizard, from a mmorpg with literal hundreds of tracks and an entire nother game to pull content from, I'm gonna narrow it down to 10 and just list them, because embeding 10 tracks is both laggy and not very efficent. For me... I would pick these 10:

  • Wizard City Combat(Wizard101: Wizard City)
  • Vs Kane(Pirate101: Valencia)
  • Cool Ranch Combat(Pirate101: Cool Ranch)
  • Mirage Chronoverge Combat(Wizard101: Chronoverge, aka Vs Grandfather Spider)
  • Aquila Epic Combat(Wizard101: Tartarous, aka the Hell dungeon)
  • Dragonspyre Combat(Wizard101: Dragonspyre)
  • Monquista Combat(Pirate101: Monquista)
  • Vs Rasputin(Wizard101: Polaris)
  • Empyrea Zanadu Combat(Wizard101: Empyrea)
  • Empyrea Aero Plains Combat(Wizard101: Empyrea)
Yeah I know none of these names are particularly inspiring or anything, but it's the best I got.
Hoo boy, that's a tough decision. I'm tempted to just post the entirety of the Touhou soundtrack, but that would be really hard to sift through. I'll try to narrow it down to the top 10 song I believe are the most iconic, plus some personal picks.
  1. Maiden's Capriccio. C'mon, it's Reimu's own theme. It's kind of a necessity.
  2. Love-Colored Master Spark, the most recurring theme of the other main character, Marisa.
  3. U.N Owen Was Her? Probably the most iconic Touhou theme of all.
  4. A Luna Dial/Flowering Nights medley, since they're both Sakuya's themes.
  5. Necrofantasia, for being the one Phantasm boss theme, the theme of an important character, and just because it's a really good song.
  6. Faith is for the Transient People, because Sanae was a major character from MoF to TD.
  7. Nuclear Fusion, for being one of the most aggressive and fight-y songs in the series.
  8. Fate of Sixty Years, mostly to hear those organs remastered in HD
  9. Beloved Tomboyish Girl. Look, we're not getting out of here without Cirno, no siree
  10. Pure Furies, for being a personal favorite. That, and we need a modern era song.
 

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Here's a question I just thought of:

If your most wanted got in, what music tracks would you want to come with it?
Dixie Kong

Boss Bossanova - DKC 2 (Remix)
Jib Jig - DKC 2
Disco Train - DKC 2 (Remix)
Krook's March - DKC 2
Mining Melancholy - DKC 2 (Remix)
Treetop Tumble - DKC 3
Enchanted Riverbank - DKC3 (Remix)
Rockface Rumble - DKC 3
Shipwreck Shore - DKC TF (Remix)
Big Top Bop - DKC TF
Windmill Hills - DKC TF (Remix)
Grassland Groove - DKC TF
Scorch N'Torch - DKC TF (Remix)
Aqueduct Assault - DKC TF
 
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Here's a question I just thought of:

If your most wanted got in, what music tracks would you want to come with it?

Considering my most wanted is Young Wizard, from a mmorpg with literal hundreds of tracks and an entire nother game to pull content from, I'm gonna narrow it down to 10 and just list them, because embeding 10 tracks is both laggy and not very efficent. For me... I would pick these 10:
All right, Dante's among my most wanted. So going by just battle themes:

  • Public Enemy
  • Ultra Violet
  • Shoot the Works
  • Divine Hate (not sure if Taste the Blood would make it through)
  • Vergil Battle 3
  • Devils Never Cry
  • Shall Never Surrender
  • Forza Del Destino
  • Devil Trigger
  • Subhuman

Also - sharing this so people aren't caught off guard by, well, what Zhuge might have unleashed:


Tencent's post does not mention Nintendo Direct by name (not as far as I can see) - although both Zhuge and Chinese commentators have called it effectively a Direct. Ring Fit did become very popular during the lockdown there, and for the official release Tencent hired celebrities to star probably in this as well as ads.
 
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An artist named P-Fritz posted a moveset for Sakura Shinguji yesterday.

Here's a question I just thought of:

If your most wanted got in, what music tracks would you want to come with it?
Crash Bandicoot
  1. N. Sanity Beach - Crash Bandicoot (New Remix)
  2. Bonus Round Medley - Crash Bandicoot (New Remix)
  3. Hog Wild / Whole Hog - Crash Bandicoot (Original)
  4. Papu Papu - Crash Bandicoot (New Remix)
  5. Ripper Roo Medley (New Remix)
  6. Koala Kong - Crash Bandicoot (Original)
  7. Pinstripe Potoroo (Original)
  8. Dr. Nitrus Brio - Crash Bandicoot (Original)
  9. Dr. Neo Cortex - Crash Bandicooot (Original)
  10. Tiny Tiger - Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes Back (New Remix)
  11. Dr. N. Gin Medley (New Remix)
  12. Time Twister - Crash Bandicoot WARPED (New Remix)
  13. Medieval Stages - Crash Bandicoot WARPED (Original)
  14. Great Wall Stages - Crash Bandicoot WARPED (New Remix)
  15. Tiny Tiger - Crash Bandicoot WARPED (Original)
  16. Dingodile - Crash Bandicoot WARPED (New Remix)
  17. Dr. Nefarious Tropy - Crash Bandicoot WARPED (New Remix)
  18. Dr. Neo Cortex - Crash Bandicoot WARPED (New Remix)
  19. Boss Race - Crash Team Racing (New Remix)
  20. Papu Pummel - Crash Bash (Original)
  21. Dot Dash - Crash Bash (New Remix)
  22. Wizards and Lizards - Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex (Original)
  23. Atmospheric Pressure - Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex (New Remix)
  24. Crunch Time - Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex (Original)
  25. N. Sanity Island - Crash Twinsanity (Original)
  26. The Evil Twins - Crash Twinsanity (Original)
  27. Opening - Spyro the Dragon (New Remix)
 

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Here's a question I just thought of:

If your most wanted got in, what music tracks would you want to come with it?

Considering my most wanted is Young Wizard, from a mmorpg with literal hundreds of tracks and an entire nother game to pull content from, I'm gonna narrow it down to 10 and just list them, because embeding 10 tracks is both laggy and not very efficent. For me... I would pick these 10:

  • Wizard City Combat(Wizard101: Wizard City)
  • Vs Kane(Pirate101: Valencia)
  • Cool Ranch Combat(Pirate101: Cool Ranch)
  • Mirage Chronoverge Combat(Wizard101: Chronoverge, aka Vs Grandfather Spider)
  • Aquila Epic Combat(Wizard101: Tartarous, aka the Hell dungeon)
  • Dragonspyre Combat(Wizard101: Dragonspyre)
  • Monquista Combat(Pirate101: Monquista)
  • Vs Rasputin(Wizard101: Polaris)
  • Empyrea Zanadu Combat(Wizard101: Empyrea)
  • Empyrea Aero Plains Combat(Wizard101: Empyrea)
Yeah I know none of these names are particularly inspiring or anything, but it's the best I got.
For Chorus kids:
-Title screen medley (GBA + DS + Fever + Megamix)
-Cosmic dance (GBA)
-Bunny hop (GBA)
-Night walk (GBA)
-Remix 6 (GBA)
-Glee club (DS)
-Karate man (struck by the rain) (DS)
-Space soccer (DS)
-Munchy monk circus (DS)
-Remix 8 (DS)
-Remix 10 (DS)
-Air rally (Fever)
-Rhythm fighter (Fever)
-Figure fighter (Fever)
-Flock step (Fever)
-Cheer readers (Fever)
-Flipper flop (Fever)
-Ringside (Fever)
-Karate man 2 (Fever)
-Remix 10 (Fever)
-Cosmic rhythm rally (Megamix)
-First contact (Megamix)
-Lumbearjack 2 (Megamix)
-Sumo brothers (Megamix)
-Pajama party (Megamix)
-Super samurai slice (Megamix)
-Fan club 2 (Megamix)
-Machine remix (Megamix)
-Final remix (Megamix)

So that's 29 music, if you count the 3 music already in the game (Fruit basket, Blue birds and Monkey watch) the franchise would have 32 music. Most of them would work easily with no remixes aside from Glee club and the title screen medley. Also I try to not put too much song with lyrics because I know that copyright could be a problem (only Machine remix and both Karate man have lyrics).
 
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Tencent's post does not mention Nintendo Direct by name (not as far as I can see) - although both Zhuge and Chinese commentators have called it effectively a Direct. Ring Fit did become very popular during the lockdown there, and for the official release Tencent hired celebrities to star probably in this as well as ads.
Has this happened before? Is Tencent basically responsible for "Direct-style" announcements in China? Or is it just this once?

Because if it is the former, that's... interesting. Nintendo usually doesn't let other companies do this, with very rare exceptions. Though to be fair, they probably wouldn't be allowed in China without Tencent's backing, so...
 
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