Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[PhantomShab]

Sakurai hates the beloved gaming icon Lana from Pokemon, and her exclusion from Smash is a deliberate attempt from Sakurai to rewrite history where he doesn't matter and only FE and third parties do.

/s, but unfortunately I copied this almost verbatim from someone who genuinely believes this over on gamefaqs.

It's amazing how that CuterChihuahua guy consistently and effortlessly makes people at Gamefaqs so damn mad lol.

 

[Digital Hazard]

If Smash were a fan-fiction, who would be the leader of the “unchosen?” Geno or Waluigi?

Waluigi is the poster boy for Assist Trophies, which so far the devs are concerned, does mean something.

Geno is just a spirit, soooooo... He is in a worse position imo.

It's amazing how that CuterChihuahua guy consistently and effortlessly makes people at Gamefaqs so damn mad lol.

I once found her on Twitter and she insisted FE characters was Sakurai's pet peeves after being told actual reasonings why they were included.

I'm sure she's a troll.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

I love how Sakurai recently admitted that he doesn't tell us which games he's currently playing because we always interpret it as a clue or hint for an upcoming character.

Sad thing is, it probably won't stop there. "Sakurai said he went shopping for some new clothes!! Style Savvy in Smash?!"

Sakurai wants to keep quiet and be silent about the games he plays in order to make it a surprise, so obviously Quiet from Metal Gear and a Silent Hill Rep are going to be our next DLC fighters.

 

[PeridotGX]

It's amazing how that CuterChihuahua guy consistently and effortlessly makes people at Gamefaqs so damn mad lol.

Is it really that surprising? He thinks that Sonic is a wasted slot that should be given to the girl from Hadji no Mori. He's been doing this since at least the reveal of Ultimate. He's either a very dedicated troll, or even worse-genuine.

 

[Deleted member]

Delzethin just posted his Third Party discussion for FP2:

Dynasty Warriors only got a brief mention during the Hayabusa segment and it is the most I've ever seen a YouTuber talk about Dynasty Warriors in Smash ever.

Edit: Sari when Quote gets talked about in a video

 

[PhantomShab]

Is it really that surprising? He thinks that Sonic is a wasted slot that should be given to the girl from Hadji no Mori. He's been doing this since at least the reveal of Ultimate. He's either a very dedicated troll, or even worse-genuine.

Either way he gets people seething so if he's a troll then it works and he has no reason to stop lol

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Delzethin just posted his Third Party discussion for FP2:

Surprised Crash wasn't in it. I feel he's one of the more likely 3rd parties at this point given the legacy and icon he was in the 90s.

Edit: Nevermind, I see he got an honorable mention.

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

Surprised Crash wasn't in it. I feel he's one of the more likely 3rd parties at this point given the legacy and icon he was in the 90s.

Well, he did put Crash in his honorable mentions section. I got the impression that some of the older speculation from a year ago might have influenced who Delzethin placed higher, since hayabusa and Steve were in his top picks. I do think he covered the bases pretty well if we include everyone he mentioned, though.

Edit: didn't see your edit. Oops.

 

[7NATOR]

i do gotta ask, is there anyway to figure out the sales of Fighter pass 1, or how much profit was allocated to each company for their contribution to the Pass?

 

[Perkilator]

i do gotta ask, is there anyway to figure out the sales of Fighter pass 1, or how much profit was allocated to each company for their contribution to the Pass?

Not that I know of.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I may say that sakurai secretly hates geno.

Honestly I'm convinced that neither Nintendo or Square cares about Geno considering we've gotten multiple games in which Mario crosses over with Square Enix since SMRPG yet Geno was never included in them. Apparantly Fortune Street on the Wii has the Forest Maze song too but Geno's still nowhere to be seen

 

[Swamp Sensei]

i do gotta ask, is there anyway to figure out the sales of Fighter pass 1, or how much profit was allocated to each company for their contribution to the Pass?

Nintendo doesn't release figures for DLC as far as I know.

I think the only thing we ever learned about Smash DLC profits was that Smash 4's DLC was the most profitable DLC they made at the time.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Nintendo doesn't release figures for DLC as far as I know.

I think the only thing we ever learned about Smash DLC profits was that Smash 4's DLC was the most profitable DLC they made at the time.

Well considering that its competition was Mario Kart and...Mario Kart. That's not surprising.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Well considering that its competition was Mario Kart and...Mario Kart. That's not surprising.

Honestly Smash beating Mario Kart is huge.

Especially since the Mario Kart 8 DLC was pretty ****ing big.

 

[TheCJBrine]

Honestly I'm convinced that neither Nintendo or Square cares about Geno considering we've gotten multiple games in which Mario crosses over with Square Enix since SMRPG yet Geno was never included in them. Apparantly Fortune Street on the Wii has the Forest Maze song too but Geno's still nowhere to be seen

They do care about SMRPG, however, porting it through VC/SNES Classic, NoA mentioning Geno and Mallow themselves in 2018 on Twitter, Geno was a cameo in Superstar Saga at least (maybe because of popularity but idk, I just remember someone saying that), and they had to have approved his inclusion in Smash as a costume/spirit.

 

[Garteam]

While it doesn't benefit Geno in any way, I don't think the fact that Square Enix has properties that would make more sense from a promotional standpoint is necessarily a dealbreaker for the puppet. Both Microsoft and Nintendo would've benefitted far more from including a more mainstream and active series like Halo or Minecraft in Smash, but opted to go for the longtime fan-favourite in Banjo-Kazooie instead.

Sometimes, fulfilling a popular request with the core fanbase is the better move than following conventional wisdom. Sakurai has publicly affiliated with the character before and there's no denying there's a demand for Geno. Square has also been relatively liberal about Geno when it comes to Smash, seeing how they were willing to let Geno be a Mii costume and spirit in the past. Plus, they already have their two key franchises in Smash, so it's not like Square Enix hasn't gotten increased visibility from Smash. The biggest remaining factor at this point is if Nintendo thinks it's worthwhile to pursue Geno as a full pack. Geno's far from guaranteed, but he's in the best position he's ever been in.

 

[Wunderwaft]

There's a guy attempting to make the biggest fan ballot for Ultimate. He's halfway to his goal and he just posted the midway results. If you haven't voted yet then I recommend you do.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

 

[Swamp Sensei]

There's a guy attempting to make the biggest fan ballot for Ultimate. He's halfway to his goal and he just posted the midway results. If you haven't voted yet then I recommend you do.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

I refuse to believe that Professor K is somehow in the top 100.

Let alone the top 30.

 

[Wunderwaft]

I refused to believe that Professor K is somehow in the top 100.

Let alone the top 30.

SilvaGunner's King for a Day tournament did a lot for good ol' Professor K lol
Wouldn't surprise me if K's votes came from SilvaGunner's fanbase.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

So honest question.

The Pokemon DLC launches on June 17.

Will the ARMS announcement be in the same time frame? That might not be a safe move, marketing wise.

It makes me think that, we will get the ARMS announcement either this next week, or the week after the DLC.

 

[VGPhaze]

So honest question.

The Pokemon DLC launches on June 17.

Will the ARMS announcement be in the same time frame? That might not be a safe move, marketing wise.

It makes me think that, we will get the ARMS announcement either this next week, or the week after the DLC.

I bet it’ll be the week after if it isn’t delayed to next month. Would rather be pleasantly surprised than waiting around for an announcement that doesn’t come haha

 

[Shroob]

So honest question.

The Pokemon DLC launches on June 17.

Will the ARMS announcement be in the same time frame? That might not be a safe move, marketing wise.

It makes me think that, we will get the ARMS announcement either this next week, or the week after the DLC.

Didn't the whole "It'd be a bad idea for marketing" thing get throw out the window only a few months ago with Terry? Wasn't the logic to his release "Being a bad idea" when Pokemon was coming out.

 

[RaintheCriminalWhirlwind]

If Smash were a fan-fiction, who would be the leader of the “unchosen?” Geno or Waluigi?

Geno. Now If smash were a fanfiction...I bet we could come up with a plot. I say little mac is the main character. Ultimate underdog protagonist. Pit, his quirky best friend. Lucina, the kind but strong type that may or may not have a crush on underdog protagonist.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Didn't the whole "It'd be a bad idea for marketing" thing get throw out the window only a few months ago with Terry? Wasn't the logic to his release "Being a bad idea" when Pokemon was coming out.

That's not quite right, Terry came out between Luigi's Mansion 3 AND SwoShi, 2 titles Nintendo wanted to see perform well, the Japanese 7/11s never put an ad for Terry as they featured the full games

 

[Shroob]

That's not quite right, Terry came out between Luigi's Mansion 3 AND SwoShi, 2 titles Nintendo wanted to see perform well, the Japanese 7/11s never put an ad for Terry as they featured the full games

That's what I meant though. I distinctly remember that people were saying how much it'd be "Suicide" for Terry to release soo close to SwoShi, and in the end, he still did and there was no suicide.

 

[TheCJBrine]

I don’t think they have to worry about Smash DLC overshadowing Pokémon.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I don’t think they have to worry about Smash DLC overshadowing Pokémon.

I'm pretty sure the concern's the other way around, you know, considering how Swoshi already sold like 14 million in a month

 

[TheCJBrine]

I'm pretty sure the concern's the other way around, you know, considering how Swoshi already sold like 14 million in a month

oh yeah that’s right.

uh...

Ignore what I said.

I think we could get Smash news this week, though, with Pokémon’s DLC releasing the next so not different from Terry aside from the reveal being closer and potentially no release just yet.

may just go ahead and spend my saved 30 bucks on Pokémon if it comes first.

 

[Ben Holt]

I got a gut feeling that Spring Man'sthe ARMS character reveal will be this upcoming week.
It must be before the 20th, so that Spring Man releases in Spring.

 

[Icedragonadam]

The annual shareholders meeting is on June 26th, so next week is a safe bet.

 

[Ben Holt]

The annual shareholders meeting is on June 26th, so next week is a safe bet.

I hope that despite E3 being cancelled, we still get an E3-size Direct which would include two Smash reveals.
My guess is that FP7 is Doom Slayer.
Edit: Though I do think that Doom Slayer is FP7, my actual prediction is that they'll announce bonus fighters outside the Fighter's Pass.
I described that scenario here: https://smashboards.com/threads/we-...aracters-than-you-think.504876/#post-23946292

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I hope that despite E3 being cancelled, we still get an E3-size Direct which would include two Smash reveals.
My guess is that FP7 is Doom Slayer.

Multiple people have reported Nintendo don't any Directs for the near future

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I hope that despite E3 being cancelled, we still get an E3-size Direct which would include two Smash reveals.
My guess is that FP7 is Doom Slayer.

As far as I know the general consensus is that we can't expect a Nintendo Direct until August or something. Until then, expect everything to be shadow dropped.

 

[Ben Holt]

Multiple people have reported Nintendo don't any Directs for the near future

Yea. But Zippo said that this week was big and "not just Thursday", implying that we'd get a Thursday announcement.
I am aware of the rumors of no Nintendo Direct in June, but for once, I pray that the rumors are wrong.

 

[Spongeboob]

There's a guy attempting to make the biggest fan ballot for Ultimate. He's halfway to his goal and he just posted the midway results. If you haven't voted yet then I recommend you do.

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I like this guy's ambition. However, a simple, yet complicated problem comes in.
Couldn't one (or several) easily engage/initiate/(the proper term) in voter fraud?

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I like this guy's ambition. However, a simple, yet complicated problem comes in.
Couldn't one (or several) easily engage/initiate/(the proper term) in voter fraud?

It's tied to your Google account, so it's probably difficult for people to double vote...


If they don't have more than one Google account.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Yea. But Zippo said that this week was big and "not just Thursday", implying that we'd get a Thursday announcement.
I am aware of the rumors of no Nintendo Direct in June, but for once, I pray that the rumors are wrong.

Zippo? As in, the guy who got banned on the site that bans fake leakers? As in, "I don't know who legally owns FP5 who I totally know who it is, it's confusing"? As in, the guy who's track record doesn't exist? That Zippo?

 

[Ben Holt]

Zippo? As in, the guy who got banned on the site that bans fake leakers? As in, "I don't know who legally owns FP5 who I totally know who it is, it's confusing"? As in, the guy who's track record doesn't exist? That Zippo?

I don't swear by him. I just know he's supposedly a known leaker.
The only Smash Leakers that I trust are Sabi and Vergeben, who have been hibernating.
Point is, leaks aren't always accurate.
And believe me, I FEAR that this one is accurate, but I certainly hope for a June Direct, especially since the ARMS fighter is already confirmed to be revealed this month.

 

[Spongeboob]

It's tied to your Google account, so it's probably difficult for people to double vote...


If they don't have more than one Google account.

Yes, but you can easily create more Google accounts, correct?

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Yes, but you can easily create more Google accounts, correct?

I was (apparently poorly) alluding to that fact, yes.