Newbie Mafia 5 - Game Over! Who lives happily ever after in Newbieland?!

[Deleted member]

Unvote Vote RocketPSI

I also know from playing the DR game that you actually DO have time to read these, so the fact that you're skimming is even more of a red flag to me.

If you think RocketPSIence is bad in terms of inactivity, look at Wizzerd and Twilt. Wizzerd has made very poor posts and all he wants to do is for the game to end. I don't know much about Twilt, thought. Frown has seemingly become more active recently, so I'll take him off of my FoS list.
My vote remains with Wizzerd.

FoS: Twilt

 

[Deleted member]

I still stand by my vote for Wizzerd.

Reading twilt more as an uncaring townie than anything else.

I'm kinda more along the lines of "I'm kinda busy all the time, so i can't post as often" kinda guy, but i see where you're going.

That said, if i had to suspect someone else, it might be Clownbot. Mostly because he claims i've been viewing the Decisive games forum, but doesn't exactly have anything to back that up...

 

[Deleted member]

@TWILTHERO: About time you posted.

 

[Mayling]

That said, if i had to suspect someone else, it might be Clownbot. Mostly because he claims i've been viewing the Decisive games forum, but doesn't exactly have anything to back that up...

I was going off how you said "I'm prolly going to get voted for anyway, so...eh..."

Also Clownbot mentioned how he knew you were viewing the thread, etc. did you miss that part? or do you not believe him? or are you refuting it?

 

[Clownbot]

Well if they don't want to believe me they don't have to, lol. It was just something I found weird and I thought I'd throw it out there.

Frown has been more active, SSBF? You mean the last few posts he made? They display some pretty faulty logic imo. Basically what he's saying is...

"Kevin could be tricking you all and there are less people who are suspicious of him."

First point I've already addressed, second point is null and void right off the bat. He's more suspicious in the sense that he's not as suspicious to others? Doesn't sit well with me. If you meant something else, clarify.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

I don't have any real leads, so I'm going to vote the person off that hasn't added information, and most likely won't later in the game. It makes no sense to keep him around and instead lynch a pretty active player which COULD be scum, only supported by a little bit of evidence and mostly metagaming. I don't mean to lynch a player who will give no information at all after his lynch.

That's bad reasoning. You shouldn't settle on someone who you admit is probably town just because they're a bad player. Your still not really getting any information if you do that, and if you really think that there probably town then you'll have to think that you're putting scum one step closer to winning. It's always better to scumhunt, even if it means going after someone who is active.

Of coarse I would still recommend going after lurkers for reasons already explained several times. It's the reason that you gave for going after lurkers that bugs me.

All of that said, Unvote Vote Wizzerd with a big FoS on Twilt and a smaller one on Guus. Wizzerd still hasn't responded to the criticisms that he has received, and that bugs me immensely. It seems to me that he might be trying to lay low and not have to explain his mistake.

 

[Deleted member]

I was going off how you said "I'm prolly going to get voted for anyway, so...eh..."

Also Clownbot mentioned how he knew you were viewing the thread, etc. did you miss that part? or do you not believe him? or are you refuting it?

Well, no. I did not miss that part. I'm not saying I don't believe him, I'm just saying that it's a rather...bold claim to someone who has no proof. He could be lying s'all I'm saying, just to put some pressure on me..

 

[rPSIvysaur]

I think we should ask Kevin some questions. I mean, he's already metagaming in a newbie game.

 

[Mayling]

Well, no. I did not miss that part. I'm not saying I don't believe him, I'm just saying that it's a rather...bold claim to someone who has no proof. He could be lying s'all I'm saying, just to put some pressure on me..

From what I understand, by your own admission you have been lurking.

Have you been visiting this thread without posting?

 

[Clownbot]

Kevin, the two most popular lynch candidates right now seem to be Wizzerd and TWILT. Between them who would you say you find scummier? Would you be willing to take your vote off PSI for one of them? What do you have to say about the suspicion that's been cast toward you?

 

[Deleted member]

From what I understand, by your own admission you have been lurking.

Have you been visiting this thread without posting?

Well, being honest, a few times, but most of the time I'm on some other computer, not logged in, and at those times, i didn't have anything else to add. (I know, i shouldn't be using excuses or anything like that. I'll try to post a lot more from now on.)

 

[Mayling]

Well, being honest, a few times, but most of the time I'm on some other computer, not logged in, and at those times, i didn't have anything else to add. (I know, i shouldn't be using excuses or anything like that. I'll try to post a lot more from now on.)

It's not the lurking I find scummy, but rather the fact that you were trying to push suspicion onto Clownbot due to the fact he was "potentially lying because he had no proof" when you yourself knew you were guilty of lurking.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

I'm also kinda weary of KevinM. He seems like he's there, but not actually really helping. It seems a bit scummy to me.

I guess he did technically point out Guus, who I now find a little suspicious, but it was really clownbot who brought it to light for me, so. . .

 

[Wizzerd]

Sorry, but I'm dropping out. I feel bad doing this when I'm about to get lynched anyway and the deadline's so soon, but I can't really get into this or dedicate much time to it, hence my inactivity.

=/

 

[McFox]

I think we should ask Kevin some questions. I mean, he's already metagaming in a newbie game.

Then why didn't you do so? This is called "nudging," and is another classic scumtell.

"Hey, you know who is suspicious? That guy. We should do something about that."

You're pushing suspicion on someone without backing it up in any way.

Rocket is easily our best lynch choice for toDay.

 

[McFox]

Edit By Way Of Post: And one line about metagaming does not constitute "backing it up," not when you specifically say that "we" (which here apparently means "someone else) ask him some questions.

 

[Deleted member]

Sorry, but I'm dropping out. I feel bad doing this when I'm about to get lynched anyway and the deadline's so soon, but I can't really get into this or dedicate much time to it, hence my inactivity.

=/

You do realize that your replace is not going to be able to save himself because you dropped out just when Day 1 was about to end.

Why ask for an replacement if you know the replacement going to be lynched just hours after he/she gets in?

Just wait until the end and if you haven't been lynch, then you can ask for an replacement.

 

[Clownbot]

Thinking that anyone with their vote on Wiz should Unvote. Give whoever replaces him some time to catch up and contribute, Wizzerd probably wasn't the play toDay anyway.

 

[Xiivi]

Deadline has been set for March 16, 2010 11:59PM EST.

It's takes 7/12 to lynch!

Day 1 Vote Count 6:

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Clownbot: (0)
Frown: Tom, Kirbyoshi ( )
guus: (0)
Mayling: (0)
McFox: (0)
RocketPSlence: McFox, KevinM ( )
KevinM: (0)
Super Smash Bros. Fan: (0)
Sworddancer.: (0)
Tom: (0)
TWILTHERO: Clownbot, guus ( )
Kirbyoshi: Super Smash Bros. Fan, TWILTHERO, Sworddancer. ( )
Not Voting: Frown, Mayling, RocketPSlence ( )

Kirbyoshi replaces Wizzerd.

 

[Deleted member]

Unvote for now, since I want to give Kirbyoshi a chance. He/she will be a lot more active then Wizzerd ever was.

Frown has made a few posts lately, but he is still a suspicion, but no vote for him. I don't see anything going for RocketPSIence lynch.

Since TWILTHERO has barely contributed to the forum, I'll say VOTE: TWILTHERO.

 

[KevinM]

We have enough time to vote off Rocket PSI I would like to go that route.

However if I had to choose between Twilt and Wiz, I would probably say Wiz just because I feel that newbie scum is piling on twilt late in the Day for an easy lynch.

I have nothing to say to my "accusations" because there haven't been any. There have been "I am wary of KevinM"

That's not all that much.

Would like to say I'm ok with Guus again at this point. He reminds me of myself actually ^_^.

 

[KevinM]

This game also needs more activity.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

Confirming replacement.

I'll read up over tomorrow (and maybe Wednesday). Expect a post Wed. night at the latest.

 

[Deleted member]

@Kirbyoshi: Ehh, you might want to hurry up. Deadline is tommorow on 11:59PM or today depending when you see this post.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Confirming replacement.

I'll read up over tomorrow (and maybe Wednesday). Expect a post Wed. night at the latest.

You'll going to have to do it sooner then that. The guy that your replacing, Wizzerd, was one of the main scum suspects.


Guys, should we really just not vote for Kirbyoshi now? I know it's not fair to Kirbyoshi who just got in this game, but I also know that Wizzerds role transfers to Kirbyoshi, and if wizzerd was scum, then that means Kirbyoshi is scum to. Wizzerd dropping out right before the lynch seems weird, like it might actually be a scum move.

I personally don't think so, as it seems Wizzerd really didn't have the time to play.

Also, I would like to remind everyone that the deadline is coming up. If were going to lynch someone, we have to do it within the next 24 hours.

 

[McFox]

There are four scum in this game. I don't see the hurry to lynch a role that WAS inactive. If Kirb is scum, we'll catch him later.

Rocket it still an excellent lynch for toDay.

 

[Frown]

I feel like voting PSIence as well... But I'm not really convinced.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Then why didn't you do so? This is called "nudging," and is another classic scumtell.

"Hey, you know who is suspicious? That guy. We should do something about that."

It's because I don't really know what kind of questions to ask >.>

 

[Deleted member]

@McFox: I beg to disagree. Since Frown's rise in activity and Kirbyoshi replacing Wizzerd, the only one I can find suspicious is TWILTHERO. RocketPSIence has done nothing that warrants a vote.

My vote is still on TWILTHERO. However, I do agree that we should give Kirbyoshi a chance to play.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Maybe I should do this next game I'm mafia. First lurk a bit, wait till lynch goes my way, then the day before the lynch (A WEEK TO LYNCH) get a replacement who takes all votes of my persona.

 

[Deleted member]

@Guus: So basically, you want to act like a scum and let your replacement pay for it?

FoS: Guus.

 

[Deleted member]

EBWOP: FOS: Guus

Please note that this is not a double FoS on him. My vote still lies with TWILTHERO.

Also, shouldn't we have an vote count now? It's getting lynch time and we want results.

 

[Jim Morrison]

No, I was putting to words what Wizzerd was/could be doing.
Geez, last time I'll bring anything that is not serious/sarcasm into this game.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Also, I'm tossed up between Rocket and Twilit. Rocket gives more of a scummy feeling, but Twilit is pretty bad at trying to be more active. That can really hurt town later.

 

[Deleted member]

@Guus: Regarding RocketPSIence, we should wait to investigate him during the Twlight Phase and Day 2 and vote TWILTHERO for now, since after all, he is the least informative player.

 

[Jim Morrison]

You mean that the cop should investigate Rocket, so that we can be sure if we lynch the right person or not the next day, instead of lynching him today, knowing his role and getting an extra investigation (used on someone who is not Rocket)?
(Just want to know if I got it right)

 

[KevinM]

Don't like dictating night actions.

Not a good idea imo.

 

[Mayling]

The Cop is only even night, meaning we'd have to wait til D3 for the verdict on Rocket, anyway. That means there'd be a good 2-4 night kills and 0-2 day lynches all while we're waiting to find out the verdict. Not to mention, the cop would have to claim in order to do so.

I don't think that's a very good plan.

 

[Mayling]

Actually there isn't even a Cop/Doctor. <.< So disregard all that!

 

[Jim Morrison]

[collapse=12 Players]Monks & Masons:
This is a Semi-Open Set-Up with all roles randomly assigned:

8 Townies
2 Mafiosi
2 Werewolves
---
2 Monks - (determined randomly from the 10 non-Werewolves to be Monks)
2 Masons (determined randomly from the 10 non-Mafiosi to be Masons)

I highly doubt there's even a doc and a coptor.