Newbie Mafia 5 - Game Over! Who lives happily ever after in Newbieland?!

[Deleted member]

These have my susipcion:

Vote: Frown

Because I MIGHT BE THE TRICKSTER!

It sounds like he's trying to reveil himself what he really is.

Unvote vote: Frown

Nothing really to go by so far, so I'm trying to help this end quickly... and to get my obligatory 48 hour post :$

A Mafia member would try to end the day as soon as possible. This is evidence that he could be a mafia member.

This isn't much evidence in my opinion, but from what I can tell, it leads to eitehr Frown or Wizzerd. Given that Frown has more posts then Wizzerd, my vote still lies with Wizzerd.

But as of now: FOS: Frown.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

I really think that having to just make an obligatory post in 48 hours is generally in bad taste.

FOS: Wizzerd

 

[Clownbot]

Why just FoS? You still have your vote on Kevin but that was made during RVS (I think).

 

[Deleted member]

@RocketPSIence: Yeah, what Clownbot said. Are there any reasons for voting KevinM? I haven't seen any posts that were particularly susicpious.

 

[McFox]

The idea is that you're posting more than once every 48 hours. It's a minimum requirement, not your quota. I've already discussed why lurkers are bad for town.

You can't think of anything to say? I made a big post on the last page discussing what I thought about everything that had transpired in the game so far. Do you agree or disagree with ANY of it? What about Kevin's pushes for Guus or Maylings' lynch? Do you agree or disagree with those? Why or why not?

 

[KevinM]

Mcfox where do you want to look?

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Mayling and rocket aren't really looking that suspicious to me atm.

Guus is looking a bit more suspicious, though. Him admitting that he didn't really have any good leads and yet still voting for Frown isn't really that suspicious to me. It's really just more noobtell then it is scumtell, as I think he was just following what I said about Frown lurking more than anything.

What does make me rise an eyebrow is when Guus said he'll like to get rid of a less informative player. Guys, we want to vote scum off here, not a lazy townie. Still though, as I and others have said, lurking is a type of scum tell, so at the very least I can agree with Guus that voting off a less informative player isn't a bad idea, albeit for different reasons.

Wizzerd, however, is looking a lot more suspicious to me due to that whole "trying to end it quickly" post. I would like to think that scum would be smart enough not to post something like that, but you never know.

FoS Wizzerd

 

[rPSIvysaur]

@RocketPSIence: Yeah, what Clownbot said. Are there any reasons for voting KevinM? I haven't seen any posts that were particularly susicpious.

Oh, it is. My bad, didn't realize that.
Unvote

 

[Clownbot]

The point I was making was, why did you only FoS him? You said that you "really" though that what he did was in "bad taste," so he must be suspicious to you. You don't have your vote on anyone else (now). Do you think that what he did wasn't enough to warrant an actual vote?

 

[Deleted member]

It's apporaching midnight, I need to get some sleep. I'll be back tommorow to see what progress has been made.

 

[McFox]

Unvote

Vote: RocketPSI

Skimming. He answered SSBF's query to him because it had "@RocketPSIence" at the front of the post, yet skipped entirely over mine, even though it was clearly aimed right at him. He'd know this if he had read my post, but he didn't because I didn't have his name in it, so it didn't jump out to him.

Kev, I'm not entirely sure. Too many n00btells to figure out which ones are scumtells. If you want to pursue something with Guus I might be for it, but since it is Newbie Mafia I probably won't go along with it unless you show your work. However, I think Rocket's skimming is relevent. This isn't the first time I've called him out, either.

 

[Jim Morrison]

What does make me rise an eyebrow is when Guus said he'll like to get rid of a less informative player. Guys, we want to vote scum off here, not a lazy townie. Still though, as I and others have said, lurking is a type of scum tell, so at the very least I can agree with Guus that voting off a less informative player isn't a bad idea, albeit for different reasons.

I don't have any real leads, so I'm going to vote the person off that hasn't added information, and most likely won't later in the game. It makes no sense to keep him around and instead lynch a pretty active player which COULD be scum, only supported by a little bit of evidence and mostly metagaming. I don't mean to lynch a player who will give no information at all after his lynch.

 

[Mayling]

can our song be "fairytale"?

I did a reread to try and see what I could find. It took us too long and struggled to get out of RVS, which hurt us. Though, I want to warn everyone that we have somewhere around 36 hours to get a lynch.

McFox, you so mad cute as an IC, trying so hard and all. accept: Mcfox (hope you're over 6' )

Also noticed TWILT viewing the thread a lot but hardly ever posting. If I recall correctly he had a chance to answer McFox's question before anyone else (or at least most others) but he didn't take it.[/B]

How did you know Twilt was viewing the thread?

Guys... small number of posts ≠ likely mafia. Just telling.

If you think statistically, no person is LIKELY to be mafia.

Really, we should try to find actual proof and/or holes in people's stories before we toss out votes.

It's not just statistically speaking that lower posts would make someone scummy, but rather not contributing often/enough would make someone scummy, because only scum would have a reason to not contribute/want to coast.

Textbook OMGUS*, but I'm inclined to believe this is a n00btell rather than a scumtell for now.

I always found an OMGUS vote either as distancing or as town.

And Rocket for his using the same tactic he had immediately prior chastized Clown for using.

I just think Rocket didn't understand the merits of RVS. I know it caught me offguard when I first entered the game.

So, correct me if i'm reading this wrong...but I'm being thrown with suspicion because I don't post a lot, lurk a lot and I didn't answer a question when I could have?

Yes. Do you plan on lurking a lot? If so, that's doubly bad.

I'm still just a regular n00b at this game with and i don't post alot because A: I don't exactly know what to post (and i'm kinda on the shy side..) and B: I figure I'd see and watch what happens before posting/voting.

It's okay. You don't have to be shy. Have you noticed ANYTHING suspicious at all?

I'm probably going to get voted anyway, but eh...

I didn't like this. As town, you should always try your best to prove you're town. Saying something like this just seems like scum trying to play the whole 'I don't care if I get voted... it's going to happen anyway..."

Plus, I don't know about you guys, but I'd prefer lynching someone who's acting actively scummy over a Townie who isn't pulling their weight.

Are you talking about toDay or in general? Someone who isn't pulling their weight seems scummy and in the end it would hurt in a LYLO because we may not have enough information to make the right choice.

Also, right now there are only, like, three people who are confirmed convinced Town as far as I care. Some of us should really post more.

Who? Why?

But as of now: FOS: Frown.

FOS: Wizzerd

Normally I don't mind FOSs, but you guys should know they "carry less weight." Plus, if you don't have your vote on someone, you may as well go ahead and place it to show where your suspicions truly lay. This way, if you do die, town can go back and look at voting patterns. Also, since we're approaching lynch dead line soon, we need to correlate a lynch. Going into no lynch at this point I think would hurt us, because we won't gain information flip, it won't be a chance to catch scum, and also the potential for two night kills (unless if the kills overlap.)

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Alright then.
Vote: Wizzerd

Thanks for the voting tip.

 

[Deleted member]

I did a reread to try and see what I could find. It took us too long and struggled to get out of RVS, which hurt us. Though, I want to warn everyone that we have somewhere around 36 hours to get a lynch.

You got a lot of stuff dugged up. I'll go read them to see if I can see anything susipcius.

Normally I don't mind FOSs, but you guys should know they "carry less weight." Plus, if you don't have your vote on someone, you may as well go ahead and place it to show where your suspicions truly lay. This way, if you do die, town can go back and look at voting patterns. Also, since we're approaching lynch dead line soon, we need to correlate a lynch. Going into no lynch at this point I think would hurt us, because we won't gain information flip, it won't be a chance to catch scum, and also the potential for two night kills (unless if the kills overlap.)

You do not to worry about me, I already casted a vote on Wizzerd and I gave my reasons a few times. Frown is just my top suspicion right now.

 

[Jim Morrison]

unvote, vote: RocketPSIence

How can you still avoid McFox's question while he votes on you, but yet you reply to someone quoting your post and giving you advice? Go do something.

 

[McFox]

Because he's still skimming. I've already pointed out why skimming is scummy.

With deadline coming up tomorrow night, I think Rocket is a good candidate for the lynch.

Also, for new players: we use strange capital letters when talking about Game-Days vs. RL days. When Mayling says

Are you talking about toDay or in general?

that's not a miscapitalization. We use "toDay" when talking about the game day, as in Day 1, which has lasted since the game started until this Day ends tomorrow night. You may also see

toMorrow
yesterDay

to denote game time vs. RL time.

And May, I'm 6'1".

 

[Xiivi]

Deadline has been set for March 16, 2010 11:59PM EST.

It's takes 7/12 to lynch!

Day 1 Vote Count 5:

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Clownbot: (0)
Frown: Tom, Wizzerd ( )
guus: KevinM ()
Mayling: (0)
McFox: Mayling ()
RocketPSlence: McFox, guus ( )
KevinM: (0)
Super Smash Bros. Fan: (0)
Sworddancer.: (0)
Tom: (0)
TWILTHERO: Clownbot, Sworddancer. ( )
Wizzerd: Super Smash Bros. Fan, TWILTHERO, RocketPSlence ( )
Not Voting: Frown ()

Tom is V/LA due to computer troubles. He will be replaced if necessary.

 

[McFox]

Okay, I just can't resist.

McFox, you so mad cute as an IC, trying so hard and all. accept: Mcfox

On an actual note, why are you still voting me?

 

[Deleted member]

I don't see any reason to vote RocketPSIence to be lynched. I read the entire thread from the beginning of the game until now and I have seen none of his posts that is really susipicious.

 

[Clownbot]

How did you know Twilt was viewing the thread?

I was viewing Decisive Games while playing the Mafia games I'm in right now and I've seen him on the Currently Active Members list.

Are you talking about toDay or in general? Someone who isn't pulling their weight seems scummy and in the end it would hurt in a LYLO because we may not have enough information to make the right choice.

I was speaking in general but that is something to consider, sorry.

Who? Why?

Would openly saying who I found least scummy benefit town in any way? (I'll answer your question if you can tell me that.)

 

[rPSIvysaur]

I do have a life ya-know. Sorry, I can't dedicate all my free time to rereading and making sure I didn't miss questions.

I'll reread and answer any loose ends in a bit.

 

[KevinM]

Oh sweet useless townie wagon.

CHOO CHOOOOOO

Unvote
Vote RocketPSI

I also know from playing the DR game that you actually DO have time to read these, so the fact that you're skimming is even more of a red flag to me.

KevinM are you metagaming you sly dog?

Oh stop it KevinM you slay me.

 

[Mayling]

And May, I'm 6'1".

my heart skipped a beat

Would openly saying who I found least scummy benefit town in any way? (I'll answer your question if you can tell me that.)

good point.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

@Kevin, I really haven't had much time in the past few days. I have very little stuff in there right now b/c my life is hectic. I'm working on a longer post right now with my thoughts in it.

 

[Mayling]

unvote

still trying to process all this newness.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

The idea is that you're posting more than once every 48 hours. It's a minimum requirement, not your quota. I've already discussed why lurkers are bad for town.

You can't think of anything to say? I made a big post on the last page discussing what I thought about everything that had transpired in the game so far. Do you agree or disagree with ANY of it? What about Kevin's pushes for Guus or Maylings' lynch? Do you agree or disagree with those? Why or why not?

I have already made my thoughts apparent about myself in your statement, but the big post is pretty good. You really have some people zoomed in on it while leaving others behind. I'd really like to see what you'd have to say about the others too. I can see Wizzerd making a bad post which is why I voted for him, and I haven't really seen much else to convince me otherwise now. Unvote.
I'm not really seeing much from TWILT contentwise and that has me worried. a bit. After he had voted for Wizzerd I haven't seen him much since and it was a vote that was soley based off of one vote.
KevinM has a totally different style of playing that is hard to read. I can't quite sure what to make of Kevin's votes, but I was seeing myself feel a little suspicious of Guus as I read through. I'm not quite sure about Mayling though, I haven't seen anything really that scummy to me about him. May have to do another reread of his posts to get a better grip of his game so far.

Now I should probably talk deeper about time on SWF. I am the head of the Lucas MU discussion thread and undertake in several other major threads. Most of time is consumed by this. I take breaks and go into the DR to just be casual. Recently, there has been a DR mafia game which I am actively into. The couple days, however, have been chaotic for me and is evident by the deeper content found in my posts in the DR. I haven't even had time to reread the material since the last nightkill in there.

While I'm in the FOS, does any body have any more questions they need addressed?

 

[Jim Morrison]

Unvote, Vote: Twilt

I've read your posts, and I am terribly disappointed. You have made THREE posts. Almost a whole week has passed. Inbetween your posts are gaps of about FORTY-EIGHT hours. I can already tell you're going to be of little to no use later, best to lynch you now, while we can still afford to.

 

[Clownbot]

Not feeling Rocket as the lynch for toDay.

Frown, TWILT, Wiz reeeeeeaaaaally need to post. TWILT's an hour or so away from getting prodded and the other two are already there.

 

[Jim Morrison]

I'd like to add that 2 of the 3 posts were random vote and unvote and the third post was a little bit of information on why he did not post; bull**** reasons. And a vote on Wizzerd because he wanted his obligatory 48 hours post.
OH THE IRONY.

 

[Mayling]

Reading twilt more as an uncaring townie than anything else.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Townies can still play very anti-town, he adds no info at all either. That's really what I want to see as a lynch the first day. Scum can't be dumb enough to be clear to lynch already.

 

[Frown]

Well, I learned that I got suspected from talking TOO much in my other game.

My current thoughts: I think KevinM MIGHT be fooling you all. I don't really have anything to prove this since he's obviously a skilled player, but just keep that in mind. Everything he says might be carefully made up.

 

[Mayling]

Townies can still play very anti-town, he adds no info at all either. That's really what I want to see as a lynch the first day. Scum can't be dumb enough to be clear to lynch already.

So you're going for more of an anti-town lynch toDay as compared to who you think is scummy?

 

[Jim Morrison]

I can't tell who is scummy and who's not, just pure speculation.

 

[Clownbot]

Acting anti-town isn't scummy....?

>.>

 

[Clownbot]

Frown... Not so keen on that logic. Everything anyone has said in this game could be carefully made up. ;_;

 

[Frown]

That's true, but I haven't really seen any suspicion towards him so far.

 

[Jim Morrison]

I don't like Kevin's playstyle, it gives nothing untill he gets nightkilled (because town probably won't have the balls to dare lynch him), but it's also partially cause he voted me. No reason to suspect him, though.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

The way Kevin plays doesn't seem beneficial to town to me, it's extremely vague.