[Nesu] It's so deserted here I could find Criminal Caterpillars. (Post here if you're cool)

[Z'zgashi]

SO PLAYSTATION ALLSTARS, ITS OUT, I PLAY IT, GIMME YO PSNS SO WE CAN PLAY

Also, Im top 200 online atm and I only did ranked for one night.

Awww yeah.

Gonna grind up my rank more prob tomorrow. Right now Im red belt, my goal for next time I do ranked is to get to Brown. After that get to Black. And since the season ends in 5 days, I dont have much time :o

 

[Screk]

I'll will be getting it Gashi Sly Cooper <3

I used the hacked Green and White :B Minty Ness is too good.

I have this toooooo

 

[Z'zgashi]

Im a PaRappa main, for secondaries I mostly play Sweet Tooth, Spike, Sir Dan, and Radec (mostly Sweetie though). I also like to pretend that Im good with Fat Princess and Sackboy.

But to show how much I play each character, my PaRappa is like, Rank 600 and something, and the next highest is Sweet Tooth at 130ish. Lol.

 

[Luco]

So we got another really good place at a national. WABA saw Shaky at 7th in singles and first in doubles with NR. Thought I should keep the Ness morale up. :D

I'm hanging out for vids. Can someone notify when they come out?

 

[yoshi8984]

Sorry for not being here lately... Internet bandwidth limits suck >__> I should be back on the weekend though.
Edit: Actually I'll be back tomorrow!
During my lack of internet though, I've studied some things on Ness' range... I'll post what I learned tomorrow, some things are obvious, while others are surprising. XD

 

[yoshi8984]

Sorry for this double post, but I felt it was needed. (wasn't sure if I should just make a new topic or post it here, so I decided to post it here lol)

Here's what I learned on Ness' Range... (Again some are obvious, others are surprising XD) I did this in training mode on a crate. All of these moves were done IN PLACE.
I did this last week, so there might've been some details I overlooked as I took notes. =P
I'll do some more testing as well, but this is what I've got so far.

Jab 1 < Jab 2 < Jab 3
U-Smash (CHARGED) > Jab 3
U-Smash (UNCHARGED) < Jab 3
D-Tilt > N-air
F-Smash > D-Smash (back hit, uncharged)
F-Smash > F-air
D-Tilt < Jab 1
Nair < Jab 1
U-Smash (CHARGE HIT) > F-Smash [Charge hit means ONLY the hit from charging it will hit the crate]
D-Smash (back hit) < U-Smash (back hit) [IIRC I believe U-Smash's back hit outranges D-Smash's back hit even when D-Smash is charged]
F-Smash > U-Smash (back hit)
U-Smash (charge hit) > F-air
F-air > U-Smash (uncharged)
D-Smash (back hit, charged) = U-Smash (back hit) [They both grazed the crate. Though I need to test if charging U-Smash extends the range of the back hit too lol]
F-air > Jab 1
U-Smash (charged) > F-air
Bair < D-Smash
Nair < Bair
F-Tilt < Jab 1 [Tilt stick was used for F-tilt]
F-Tilt > D-Tilt
Jab 3 > F-air
F-Tilt (angled down) > D-Tilt
N-air < F-Tilt
PSIM (WINDBOX) < Jab 1
U-Tilt < U-Smash [was testing which one hits above better lol]

 

[Jamwa]

Sorry for this double post, but I felt it was needed. (wasn't sure if I should just make a new topic or post it here, so I decided to post it here lol)

Here's what I learned on Ness' Range... (Again some are obvious, others are surprising XD) I did this in training mode on a crate. All of these moves were done IN PLACE.
I did this last week, so there might've been some details I overlooked as I took notes. =P
I'll do some more testing as well, but this is what I've got so far.

Jab 1 < Jab 2 < Jab 3
U-Smash (CHARGED) > Jab 3
U-Smash (UNCHARGED) < Jab 3
D-Tilt > N-air
F-Smash > D-Smash (back hit, uncharged)
F-Smash > F-air
D-Tilt < Jab 1
Nair < Jab 1
U-Smash (CHARGE HIT) > F-Smash [Charge hit means ONLY the hit from charging it will hit the crate]
D-Smash (back hit) < U-Smash (back hit) [IIRC I believe U-Smash's back hit outranges D-Smash's back hit even when D-Smash is charged]
F-Smash > U-Smash (back hit)
U-Smash (charge hit) > F-air
F-air > U-Smash (uncharged)
D-Smash (back hit, charged) = U-Smash (back hit) [They both grazed the crate. Though I need to test if charging U-Smash extends the range of the back hit too lol]
F-air > Jab 1
U-Smash (charged) > F-air
Bair < D-Smash
Nair < Bair
F-Tilt < Jab 1 [Tilt stick was used for F-tilt]
F-Tilt > D-Tilt
Jab 3 > F-air
F-Tilt (angled down) > D-Tilt
N-air < F-Tilt
PSIM (WINDBOX) < Jab 1
U-Tilt < U-Smash [was testing which one hits above better lol]

What is this? are you testing hitbox range or something else? there might be a forum with all of Ness' hitboxes somewhere

 

[Tikao]

D-Smash (back hit, charged) = U-Smash (back hit) [They both grazed the crate. Though I need to test if charging U-Smash extends the range of the back hit too lol]

D-Smash (back hit) < U-Smash (back hit) [IIRC I believe U-Smash's back hit outranges D-Smash's back hit even when D-Smash is charged]

dsmash is so useless ...

 

[Jamwa]

dsmash is so useless ...

no move is useless, not even jigglypuff's sing or King dededes nair or falco's fair or GaW's ftilt or snakes dtilt or jigglypuff's dsmash or olimars dtilt or Lucarios down-b or king dededes down-b because reasons

 

[Tikao]

jigg's sing can be edge-canceld , ddd's fastfalled nair can start some combos , falcos fair can end some combo's and fullhop fair 2 silentlaser is true (there is a falco-mainer in my region , he loves the fair xD) ... but that's not the point the dsmash isn't realy "useless" but it's not the best move , and ness has better options in most situations , it was more something like "dsmash sucks" , no move is realy useless

 

[Screk]

So who bought a wii u :D !?!?!

 

[pidgezero_one]

dsmash is so useless ...

It's a fast stage spike and a decent mixup

 

[Nido]

So who bought a wii u :D !?!?!

I can't even get one in Australia yet...
Curses...

 

[Z'zgashi]

I like how you went through a list of bad moves and forgot to mention Ganons utilt.

 

[Nido]

**** YOU Z'Z IF I WASN'T RESPONDING TO A VISITOR MESSAGE I WOULD'VE GOT THAT FIRST
/endrage

 

[pidgezero_one]

I'm not getting a wii u until smash 4 comes out, I imagine I can get a used one by then

 

[yoshi8984]

What is this? are you testing hitbox range or something else? there might be a forum with all of Ness' hitboxes somewhere

Oh I know there was a video on Ness' hitboxes, but I wanted to see for myself what outranges what as it's hard to get an image of the hitboxes in my head lol
Also, just learned charging U-Smash does NOT extend the hitbox of the back hit.
I don't think ANY of Ness' moves are useless, D-Smash has amazing range when it's sent to the front, does decent knockback, a good mix-up, good for punishing dodges and can shield you from some projectiles. XD

 

[Jamwa]

I like how you went through a list of bad moves and forgot to mention Ganons utilt.

excuse me ganon utilt 120% hit rate shield break > utilt is true combo

 

[Z'zgashi]

Yo, thats almost as good as my weegee combo.

Enemy shields > fireball > ac'd uair > land > jab 1 > jab 2 > up b (break shield) > the worm > up b

And yes, ive legit pulled this off in tournament multiple times lol

 

[Jamwa]

Yo, thats almost as good as my weegee combo.

Enemy shields > fireball > ac'd uair > land > jab 1 > jab 2 > up b (break shield) > the worm > up b

And yes, ive legit pulled this off in tournament multiple times lol

u are my hero today i missed dtild lock vs #1 in australia i am so mad qq pp rq

 

[Screk]

Dx I have no friends on wii u T_T well I have NinjaLink that's about it also made a mewtwo banner/signature :D !

 

[Tikao]

no money for a wii u D: ... (release date in germany was like 28.11 or 29.11 , don't know) , but there is no "this is so ****ing awesome , i NEEEEED a wii u" game up to know , so i wait , until the price falls ... hope ssb4 will be great , and without grabrelease things against ness and lucas ... also want jeff in ssb4 so hard ._.

 

[Uffe]

no money for a wii u D: ... (release date in germany was like 28.11 or 29.11 , don't know) , but there is no "this is so ****ing awesome , i NEEEEED a wii u" game up to know , so i wait , until the price falls ... hope ssb4 will be great , and without grabrelease things against ness and lucas ... also want jeff in ssb4 so hard ._.

I'm also hoping that the grab release garbage will be resolved. With Namco helping out, I'm also hoping that the game doesn't change it's original Smash formula. And hopefully there will be hitstun this time unlike Brawl. I think the 4th game comes out in 2014.

 

[Screk]

The mewtwo signature I made for fun didn't post it earlier since I was busy with other things

 

[ToferTheHuman]

That Mewtwo sig looking fierce.

 

[Screk]

Thank you good sir

 

[pidgezero_one]

Legit work

 

[Luco]

Ganon is actually a really good partner for the PSI kids because his side-B combos in to jab/Dtilt locks and he can just warlock punch and death.

Oh but it has to be initiated at about 30/40 percent for the Dtilt lock (for Lucas) to work.

And DDD's Nair is really good! How could anyone think it's bad? I mean, DDD is actually my worst char (the only char I struggle to use effectively in brawl) and I can see that. o.O

Oh Jamwa, who's No. 1 in Australia?

 

[Jamwa]

Ganon is actually a really good partner for the PSI kids because his side-B combos in to jab/Dtilt locks and he can just warlock punch and death.

Oh but it has to be initiated at about 30/40 percent for the Dtilt lock (for Lucas) to work.

And DDD's Nair is really good! How could anyone think it's bad? I mean, DDD is actually my worst char (the only char I struggle to use effectively in brawl) and I can see that. o.O

Oh Jamwa, who's No. 1 in Australia?

Atilla lol

 

[Nido]

Damn Snake mains

And it's "Attila"

 

[Z'zgashi]

Its not that D3s nair is so bad, its just why nair when you can bair, its 100% better.

 

[Screk]

I want to make something for the Ness boards if anyone could find me a GOOD Ness render >_>

 

[Z'zgashi]

Ill ask Yink if she has anything

 

[Flame Hyenard]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7lSrUdpz78 TAS of Mother 1 (glitched, but still worth the watch)

 

[Jamwa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7lSrUdpz78 TAS of Mother 1 (glitched, but still worth the watch)

Glitched by opening the menu to reset the random amount of steps before you battle?

edit: now i see it lol

 

[Flame Hyenard]

No, that's just luck manipulation.

Yeah, it's best to see the whole video before commenting =p

You can skip the downward walk in the black/white glitched overworld up to 9:15 if you want.

 

[Jamwa]

Funny how the boss fight makes up half the speed run

wasnt gyigas like a pet or something of the queen of whatchacallit? i forgot the storyline dayum

 

[P.I.E.]

I want to make something for the Ness boards if anyone could find me a GOOD Ness render >_>

What's a render?

 

[pidgezero_one]

Ninten's great grandmother is the queen of Magicant (an imaginary world created by her restless spirit, I think she's actually dead) and was giygas' surrogate mother decades ago

 

[Screk]

What's a render?

A render is any object that has been cut out from the background of it's original picture.