Most extreme training ideas

[Archangel]

This thread is for sharing Ideas on training methods you personally borrowed or made up in order to master a specific technique.

For Example: When I decided to learn to wavedash consistently a few years back I made up my own way of training. I went to training mode and I played against Fox and put him on Walk. I then forced myself to Wavedash only with each character I used and I followed Fox back and forward until I could follow him from 1 end to the other and back without messing it up.

If anyone has any other extreme or unconventional training methods they used/use to practice a specific technique(s) share it here.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

To get down techng I when to jigglypuff's target test and stayed in midair in the corner forever using pound and the airdodge.

I don't know if this counts but only when I am training with pichu's up-B trciks I tend to play with my tougue for whatever reason.


also what I think made me decent at teching is because whenever I try to sweetsot I automaticly press R I just so I played smash out side smash so much I knew when to tech in habit ithout evebn knowing I was teching in fact i've put down the controller from cause I thought I was dead I didn't know I teched.

 

[EPsilon933]

I used to play 6 stock games vs a level 9 Marth and 6 stock it all day. Back in my scrub days. Too good. I played on banned stages too because they're the most difficult to play on.

 

[phanna]

Long long ago I used to practice teching by standing on right side of Corneria and throwing proximity mines onto fin and up-b'ing into it (later when I got action replay, would just practice teching against Jigglypuff's target test fire bumpers)

I used action replay to play Samus on the homerun stage, and would super wavedash from the pedastel until the map errored out and vanished into blue, and then go back.

Foxes and falco is fun to practice multiple shines or shine shffling aerials against brinstar's platform tendrils (or peach's nair) but they break pretty fast, so if you have action replay, turning on an invincible enemy is really awesome, you get all the hitlag and timing practice on a totally stationary target (eg bowswer) who doesn't even have to shield

Anyone and everyone should practice wavelanding on the neutral stages with their main character(s)

 

[mastermoo420]

Before I started to work at an internship, my idea was to play against a lvl 1 CPU with 99 stock and unlimited time and do that once a day to help train my techskill for Fox. Then, eventually, I might have gone to more "sets," but I'm busy now, lol.

 

[MikeHaggarTHAKJB]

what exactly can you do with AR? is it possible to change the timing of l canceling (like 3 frames instead of 6) or short hop?

 

[ihavespaceblondes]

In an attempt to master "winning", I traveled to tournaments and played people better than me.

 

[JPOBS]

3 marths in training mode, all on "evade" and try to upthrow upair combo all day

0.5 damage, 9 handicap bowser, and try to keep him on the top of your shine as falco while waveshining him across the stage a la fox

practice shine infinites on fourside as fox cuz its the only stage with a permanent wall and no hazards.

Play by myself on FoD. No one does this lol

 

[MCSR]

Practice powershielding on FD in super sudden death. Make your friend be samus and shoot at you with fully charged powershots, lol

I practiced wavedashing by just wavedashing back and forth across FD for a while until I could do it consistently. SHFFLing was practiced on my friends and against level one cpus.

 

[StealthyGunnar]

When I mained link, I would damage myself to about 60 in training mode, throw a proximity mine down, hit id, DI, and practice bomb jumping.

 

[DJMirror]

Use that spinning wheel thingy item and jab alot then run up to it, shield the hit and wavedash back out of shield practice for me.

throw a mine near the ledge, go off the stage and up b toward the stage/mine and practice teching.

Credit goes to Lovage.

 

[Vro]

In an attempt to master "winning", I traveled to tournaments and played people better than me.

QFT. Challenge moar people.

 

[TL?]

It would be pretty extreme to play melee while skateboarding on the moon in front of some explosions.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

I was seriourily about to try to ride my bike and try to play smash at the same time and listen to PInk floyd.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Sharks with lasers.

Make smash more extreme by introducing hazards such as playing underwater and in a tank filled with laser-equipped sharks.

See if you can dodge the lasers in the tank while simultaneously handling Falco's.

 

[AceDudeyeah]

I put an empty controller on 9 handicap, me at 1, damage ratio at .5, and practice timings of sweetspot, whif, and soft spot double fairs to upair.

Also, back in my first main of Falco, I would turn on the cube and practice short hop laser timing whenever possible.
2 minutes while waiting for the microwave
Family takes too long to prepare to leave, 10 minutes
Y, B, Down
Y, B, Down
Y, B, Down
Y, B, Down
Y, B, Down
Y, B, Down
Y, B, Down
Y, B, Down
Now that I don't play Falco anymore.....whatta waste.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

hey KK you should tape a bomb to yourself and play agaainst a puff that is planking you have 9 minute to defeat puff if you lose or time runs out or you rage quit boom.

 

[TL?]

I was seriourily about to try to ride my bike and try to play smash at the same time and listen to PInk floyd.

It could work if you have a wavebird.

 

[Kason Birdman]

to practice just regular/quick reaction teching i would go to falcos target test and just throw myself at the fire box blast what ever the **** they are called thing.

for the rest of my tech skill stuff with fox/falco i would just create tech skill video type runs of levels and planned out techy off ****. ya'll know.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Ragequitting life is pretty funny sometimes.

 

[Metal Reeper]

Boswer or DK lvl 1 9 handicap, .5 damage ratio helped my tech skill alot with Falco/Fox.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

Ragequitting life is pretty funny sometimes.

it's even funner at home depot.

 

[Signia]

For a week I practiced standard fox stuff in short 10 minute sessions once every hour of my free time. I did shffl nairs and rising fast fall nairs at the fastest timing into a shine over and over, then varied the followups after the shine: shine wavedash grab, shine wavedash up smash, shine waveshine, shine multishine, shine grab, shine DC nair, and shine multishine into all of those. For multishining, perfect shine out of shield, and initial dash shine, I immediately stopped my training once I hit all three in a row.

If you train like this, your muscle memory learns very fast and only remembers when and how you did it right. My fox still sucks but it was very technical from just a week of practicing. It's even worse now that I've stopped, though.

 

[keeper]

Vary the setting you play in, the people you play, the comfortability you play in, etc.

Powershield Falco's lasers on FD.
Do the trick with Adventure mode so you can just illusion into those fire things on Fox's target test and wall tech them for teching timing practice.

 

[insekt11]

Vary the setting you play in, the people you play, the comfortability you play in, etc.

Powershield Falco's lasers on FD.
Do the trick with Adventure mode so you can just illusion into those fire things on Fox's target test and wall tech them for teching timing practice.

I think this is the best way. Play vs noobs and pros. Bots and people, even different characters that you would never play

 

[Zone]

Vary the setting you play in, the people you play, the comfortability you play in, etc.

Powershield Falco's lasers on FD.
Do the trick with Adventure mode so you can just illusion into those fire things on Fox's target test and wall tech them for teching timing practice.

Be sure to move around and powershield. If you train yourself to only powershield standing still. you'll just be a sitting duck waiting for a laser to powershield. Practice doing it while dashdancing around.

 

[Kanelol]

99 stocks no time limit FD

repeat for 2-10 hours

thats how i learned tech skill

 

[phanna]

This thread is for sharing Ideas on training methods you personally borrowed or made up in order to master a specific technique.

Did any of the people coming in here and saying go play good people even read the thread first?

Obviously not, which is unfortunate, since clearly the purpose of this thread is to discuss how to improve your game when you by yourself -- to train and by yourself master techniques. Everyone knows going out and playing good people is the best way to improve. Please resist the auto-troll.

Also, DJMirror the Lovage flipper idea sounds awesome I'll have to try that sometime.

 

[Nø Ca$h]

Ragequitting life is pretty funny sometimes.

what do you know about quiting life?

 

[Ryzol_]

I don't have the skills to do this, but what I would like is a controller that gives you a small zap everytime you are hit. I think an EE could do it by replacing the rumblepack with a "joltpack" and then running wires to the outside.

DONT GET HIT

 

[CloneHat]

I don't have the skills to do this, but what I would like is a controller that gives you a small zap everytime you are hit. I think an EE could do it by replacing the rumblepack with a "joltpack" and then running wires to the outside.

DONT GET HIT

I think there would be a lot less Samus players if that were the case.

 

[KAOSTAR]

to learn timing for turnaround wave shines: stadium in practice mode.

slowest speed, and when you can do em move up. if you run into trouble move back down. I just found it helpful to learn the buttons at different speeds.
----
shine aerials shfl/wave shine shield pressure-use name entry glitch with both you vs lvl9/handicap 9 bowser/falco BOTH ON THE SAME TEAM WITH TEAM ATTACK ON.damage ratio .5

use falco or pichu for a smaller target (to get use to different timings).
_---
pivots-name entry glitch

aerials: walk and try to do a turnaround bair keeping all momentum. eventually you will get better at pivoting aerials.

jabs: dash and just flick the stick the opposite way.(empty pivots) get good at that and try jabbing. then try to pivot jab across fd. dash, flick jab-dash flick jab repeat.

then rry to hit a falco with pivot jabs. nair pivot jab. nair wave shine back jab, pivot jab.

then try dash dance pivot jabs.
----
its really important to have control over your character.

being able to dash cancel and pivot really help with spacing.

on fd alone practice running and hit down and then continue running.

dash cancel jabs and up tilts.

practice dash dancing into a run into dash cancel then dash dance.

you want to avoid that slow turnaround motion. mix pivots in with all of this.

you should notice you have more control. take it 1 step at a time and build up. if you get stuck try something else for awhile or take some time off. this **** probably sounds hard or super boring.but boring things that go unnoticed are what makes you better.

 

[ihavespaceblondes]

Did any of the people coming in here and saying go play good people even read the thread first?

Obviously not, which is unfortunate, since clearly the purpose of this thread is to discuss how to improve your game when you by yourself -- to train and by yourself master techniques. Everyone knows going out and playing good people is the best way to improve. Please resist the auto-troll.

Also, DJMirror the Lovage flipper idea sounds awesome I'll have to try that sometime.

*feels appropriately ashamed of self*
It was just too easy...

As for a real answer:
One time Chad and I did an inf. time Fox ditto where I would run at him and shine->upsmash or shine->grab (so just like every match I play Fox). He would then powershield then shine and counterattack. It got to the point where he could consistently choose to sidestep, jab, grab, or shine me before my upsmash/grab would come out. A couple of times he even turned the shine into a Thunders combo.

 

[GooeyBanana]

Typically my tech skill practice goes like....

Falcon - Practice wavelanding on all platforms on all neutrals and some CPs, practice SHFFL'ing even though I have it down by now, do funny/cool combos, work on my ledgehop -> waveland offstage -> whatever consistency, and work on wavedash OoS

Falco - Practice pillaring cause I suck at it, shine -> waveland on a platform -> continue combo, ledgehop -> waveland on stage really quick

Fox - Same as Falco but also work on perfect wavedashes and waveshines

Sheik - Various areas to needle cancel, ledgehop -> waveland on stage quick, shino stall(lolnothard)

Then again, nowadays I just goof around and wish I was playing humans because I feel like I need more mindgame/spacing work rather than silly tech skill crap.

 

[MooseEatsBear]

In an attempt to master "winning", I traveled to tournaments and played people better than me.

^This.
/thread

 

[Retsu_Tsuki]

To practice Marth's infinite(somewhat) grab on Fox, I played a lv 9 fox and kept doing it until I found successful ways to rack up enough damage before he could get up and do anything to me.

 

[HugS™]

Ive done smash cardio with Lovage to train in a way that allowed us to play well even after hours of grueling tournament play.

We played for four hours straight, no breaks (except maybe 1 bathroom and water break). My controller was wasted in the aftermath.

 

[keeper]

Be sure to move around and powershield. If you train yourself to only powershield standing still. you'll just be a sitting duck waiting for a laser to powershield. Practice doing it while dashdancing around.

Yeah. It's best to do it at first while standing still to get some confidence and an "I CAN DO THIS YOU GUYS" attitude. After that, start doing theory stuff, running at, away from, dashdancing, landing from jumps so you know your window, wavedashing so you can see where it can be punished, etc. Just learn the windows to when you're punishable and not, this works with powershielding and without.

To practice Marth's infinite(somewhat) grab on Fox, I played a lv 9 fox and kept doing it until I found successful ways to rack up enough damage before he could get up and do anything to me.

What the **** are you talking?

 

[Pawls to the Wall]

To practice L-canceling after Shield hitlag:

Using AR, activate infinite shield code, then prop P2's controller so that one of the shoulder buttons is completely depressed, then practice hitting the shield and L-canceling as long as you want.

Works really well to improve shield pressure with Fox.

 

[Metal Reeper]

To practice Marth's infinite(somewhat) grab on Fox, I played a lv 9 fox and kept doing it until I found successful ways to rack up enough damage before he could get up and do anything to me.

LVL 1's have better DI, practice on them instead.

I also heard that if a player gets a starman and you do aerials at them it's the same timing if you were to hit an opponents sheild, I sometimes practice sheild pressure this way.