Mewtwo Patch (Version 1.0.6[7]) Thread [Updated: May 1st]

[Thinkaman]

ZSS ftilt damage +1% on both sour and sweet spots, pretty sure.

Still 7%.

Angled ones always did 8%.

 

[Locke 06]

If this is true I may have to like, quit the game.
This in itself is one of the major reasons why I prefer Brawl's (and Smash 4s) engine over melee. It's just apart of how I use my moves... I NEVER ACTUALLY TILT and A... it's always c sticking things... just... can't..
ugh

how I do everything out of perfect pivots or dashes just got ruined pretty much.
So gg 5-6 years of tech skill !_!

Sorry, but it seems true. Time to switch to the tilt stick for your PP tilts.

An odd change, and an annoying one for sure. #utiltsarelife

 

[Indigo Jeans]

how accurate are Lucario's numbers(%) on ssbwiki? because if they are right for the previous patch and assuming 0% then he has received HEAVY damage nerfs at 0% across the board. I am only asking because it says 17.25% on Aura Sphere which seems a bit outlandish to me on no aura

What do you mean? The wiki probably lists aura baseline damages, which are damage outputs @75%. If you're testing while you're @0% you're gonna be seeing huge "nerfs".

 

[Shaya]

Sorry, but it seems true. Time to switch to the tilt stick for your PP tilts.

An odd change, and an annoying one for sure. #utiltsarelife

So Up + C-stick up is also an up smash?
and Down + C stick forward is no longer forward tilt? In that case what is it now? Fsmash im assuming.

 

[TheOnlyGBeast]

What do you mean? The wiki probably lists aura baseline damages, which are damage outputs @75%. If you're testing while you're @0% you're gonna be seeing huge "nerfs".

thank you, I didn't know this(it doesn't say it on there)

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

My favorite update so far! So much better XD

Mine too. No more gimping via skill in Online anymore.

 

[Xaltis]

Subbingggggggggggg

 

[Locke 06]

So Up + C-stick up is also an up smash?
and Down + C stick forward is no longer forward tilt? In that case what is it now? Fsmash im assuming.

... yup.

Which means there is no more item f-tilt. Also, there is no more item f-smash. Oh, Mega Man.

 

[YeahVeryeah]

Random redditor reports the zard takes a total of 10% damage from flare blitz (5 at start and on hit) up from 9% total before.

I make no claim towards accuracy, I'm at work lol

 

[GameFile]

Can someone confirm this?
Fox Jab Combo is still in, but is no infinite anymore on certain characters, like zard.
Still stupid...

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

Could not find any changes on Pikachu or ZSS. That's including Heavy Skull Bash.

 

[RomanceDawn]

Correction for DK.

There is still a hit box gap on DK's forward Smash. When characters walk into you it still whiffs every time. At stand still range the hit box seems to have changed and gotten bigger but not enough to be fully in the clear.

 

[TTTTTsd]

So Up + C-stick up is also an up smash?
and Down + C stick forward is no longer forward tilt? In that case what is it now? Fsmash im assuming.

Yeah you're on the mark from what I'm testing, nyo ho. Sorry D:, this kind of sucks. I always used A and the stick for tilts but...yeah

 

[Indigo Jeans]

Would testing hit-on frames for characters that seem overall unchanged be worthwhile or nah should we wait till Dant's laxatives kick in

 

[DJTHED]

Random redditor reports the zard takes a total of 10% damage from flare blitz (5 at start and on hit) up from 9% total before.

I make no claim towards accuracy, I'm at work lol

Yeah it does 10% for me, not positive how much it did originally.

 

[Roots]

Is every character just getting nerfed? Barely seen any buffs compared to these nerfs

 

[Indigo Jeans]

Is every character just getting nerfed? Barely seen any buffs compared to these nerfs

Mii Swordsman has gotten a few buffs.

 

[TheOnlyGBeast]

Lucario damage is unchanged

 

[Jesus castro]

Wario and bowser seem to be the same. I will test out bowser tough ability if they added any more moves.

 

[Shaya]

When an enemy is near Samus's bombs, the bombs detonate sooner than if the enemy wasn't.

Yo guys, moves now stale faster.

Please prove me wrong when you can.

Mii Swordfighter's Side B 1(Airborne Assault) seems to have a higher baseline damage, but unchanged top damage. The wiki says it was 7.85% uncharged before, know it seems to be 10.5%

Can someone confirm?

Each of the two hits of the Mii Brawler's forward aerial deal 1% less damage, and back aerial deals 10% instead of 12%.

I can't get One-Inch Punch to work.

~

 

[Pyr]

Can someone who has the patch do a quick test? Pre-patch: custom moves sets revert you back to the color set for the custom move slot. Is that still true? They seemed to do some QoL changes, like the tags change.

 

[NEGAfy]

Pikachu's up smash feels like it ends a bit faster, no?

 

[Indigo Jeans]

How do I delete ONLY the patch from my system? I want to confirm whether or not Villager's grab endlag was reduced (among other things) but don't want to accidentally end up getting rid of my customs lmao

 

[Leisha]

Welp rest in pieces ROB, nerfed the uthrow. Didnt fix his eye animation bug. Thanks for ruining my day nintendo :/

 

[orochiwolf]

Anyone notice slightly decreased range on shulks ftilt?

I heavily play Shulk and am currently testing him in FG. I thought it was only me, but the arc of his F-air also looks like it was visually changed as well...

 

[AquaLux]

Looks like Ganon's Nuetral has been bump up. It's now at 10% at hand and 7% at the arm and body.

 

[Zappdos]

Piston Punch seems super nerfed on brawler. Stale, killed Ike on Town and City at 140.

 

[TheOnlyGBeast]

Oh woops I forgot to include w/ my greninja post that Meta Knight also appears unchanged. At first I thought that his fair come out a tiny bit faster but I am pretty sure I was seeing things

 

[bobblehob]

Testing with Ganon atm, So far looks jab has been buffed from 6%~9% to 7%~10%

 

[Zappdos]

I heavily play Shulk and am currently testing him in FG. I thought it was only me, but the arc of his F-air also looks like it was visually changed as well...

I noticed this too.

 

[shapular]

We had a false alarm last patch, but I think vectoring is out and DI is back in for real this time. Here's my data. I tested this with Diddy's uair (knock out two birds with one stone, eh?) against Mario from the side platform on Battlefield. This shouldn't be affected by any change in the move's properties or even possibly stage boundaries, the relative effect is what's important.

1.0.2:
Kills with Diddy and Mario at 140 with no DI or right/left DI
Kills with both at 138 with up DI
Kills with both at 142 with down DI

1.0.6:
Kills with both at 178, no DI
Kills with both at 191, DI away (angles far away from Diddy)
Kills with both at 173, DI in (angles straight up)
Kills with both at 176, DI up
Kills with both at 181, DI down

Also I didn't notice any effect with Diddy at 0 in either version but I don't know if it's that rage is gone (probably something we would have noticed) or if rage just doesn't have any effect in training mode.

 

[Thinkaman]

Village and Pac-Man grab endlag confirmed unchanged.

 

[Rizen]

Link seems mostly unchanged except his Hylian shield now blocks Fox and Falco's lasers. Link's jab 1 has more lag if it doesn't go to jab 2 so the lock either doesn't work or works at much higher %s.
This was the fastest I could jab 1 now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdgfQxt4JuU
vs before the patch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWmtA1VCHWY

 

[DJTHED]

How do I delete ONLY the patch from my system? I want to confirm whether or not Villager's grab endlag was reduced (among other things) but don't want to accidentally end up getting rid of my customs lmao

You can't play the game when you remove the patch though, you will be forced to install it or you will be locked out of the game, afaik.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Welp rest in pieces ROB, nerfed the uthrow. Didnt fix his eye animation bug. Thanks for ruining my day nintendo :/

#****NINTNDO

 

[Xeak]

Rob's Up Air went from 11% to 10%. Down throw up air definitely did 21% before, now it is 20%.

 

[Astronut]

Anyone wanna help me with Doc? I'm not noticing anything but I'd like other input.

Doc's fair got a damage buff from 15% to 16%. Potentially a knockback buff too.

 

[Indigo Jeans]

You can't play the game when you remove the patch though, you will be forced to install it or you will be locked out of the game, afaik.

You can play the game, you just can't play any modes that require wireless communications (group smash on 3DS, wifi, etc),

Village and Pac-Man grab endlag confirmed unchanged.

Oh?

 

[Thinkaman]

Looks like Ganon's Nuetral has been bump up. It's now at 10% at hand and 7% at the arm and body.

Confirmed. (was 8/6)

 

[Sonsa]

Nothing character specific, but online in for glory when you input a tag, leave, and return you have the same tag!