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Meta knight recovery better than Pits?

ckm

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You guys are missin the big picture pits up b is used as a last resort unless wingdashing when last i checked MK cant do that. im not sure what shuttle looping is but doesnt sound like a problem. You see the problem is you guys havent faced a good pit. Sure you cant glide so can we but we have shield that turn you around your attack becomes your downfall. Also your drill attack is easily knocked back and your mach tornado? Meet mr neutral air or my good friend forward tilt. By the way you guys are sayin we have 3 jumps u have 5 look a distance 1 jumps takes you compared to pits and dont get me started on wing refresh where our first jump = Our up b than following that is 3 jumps with another up b plus pit has loopable arrows meaning im dangerous off the stage too. You guys ever need proof you see my aim and my fc hit me up. Hahahahaha MK > Pit? dont make me laugh
dude, id be happy to play you. Youre right, I must not be playing good pits because I **** all of the pits I play. That, or maybe MK is just a bad matchup for you. Oh, and our recovery is better. Send me a PM if you actually want to back up that challenge.

although i doubt ill actually hear from you.
 

Seriaxe

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Sad Mk player you dont understand the outclass that snake has to MK. Your just playing them lvl 7 cpu's actually play really good snake players and you will see that snake barely dies by Mk, Snake sets traps, throws grenades, and has missiles. He weighs more than MK, hes stronger than MK, and his range is much farther.
Wth does Snake have to do with the topic. The Topic is Who has better recoveries between pit and MK

Not which characters own each other, you guys can argue on another thread. :mad:
 

Seriaxe

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OK, I played arguably 2 of the best 3 snakes in Texas tourney matches and 2-0'd them. The key is knowing how to play them. Stick to your own character matchups rather than trying to prove to us that we cant beat a snake. This isn't even the thread to do it in, so yeah that'll do.

On the recovery matter. MK's is better. That's just plain fact.

MK has 5 jumps compared to Pits 3.
MK has 2 glides compared to Pits 1.
MK has 4 different B recovery options compared to Pits 1.

Your shield and arrows offstage are oblivious to the fact that you can be gimped off your up b with one single hit. 3 outta 4 of MK's different B recoveries all hit with more priority than 70% of the moves in the game. Leaving him with more and safer options.

Plain and simple
MK's recovery = broken
Pit's recovery = gimpable

Sorry bud.
Yep you about sum it up, but pit jumps are better though but i prefer Meta Knight recovery method because the variety of different recoveries he can use, not just cause it can reach further then pits i think..
 

Slyde

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Seriaxe u have no idea MK may have better recovery but still Pit is the best by far at other stuff, like being alot more fun to play as.
 

Judge Judy

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I think MK's recovery is better than Pit's but I find that I have a lot easier time gimping MK than Pit. MK definitely has a better recovery but I just have an easier time gimping MK; using Mario might have something to with it since his gimps are so much different than everyone else’s.
 

Seriaxe

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Seriaxe u have no idea MK may have better recovery but still Pit is the best by far at other stuff, like being alot more fun to play as.
Slyde please dont lecture me your boring story, just cause he fun doesnt prove anything about his recoveries, oh yeh you said 'Pit is the best by far at other stuff' can you please name these.
 

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Seriaxe u have no idea MK may have better recovery but still Pit is the best by far at other stuff, like being alot more fun to play as.
I play a really good Pit, and even HE says that MK is better. MK has more range, speed, and priority. Pit simply has more knockback, and a projectile. MK wins.

 

HolyForce

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Pit's good. When the developers made him, they were sober, and wanting to make a solid character.

MK is broken. When the developers made him, they were assface drunk, and thought spinning tornados would compliment their mid-evening snack of mary jane.
 

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Seriaxe u have no idea MK may have better recovery but still Pit is the best by far at other stuff, like being alot more fun to play as.
What!?! No, while it is up to personal preference, Are you kidding? MK is way fun to play as, and besides, they didn't screw up on the voice acting (I hate "UR NOT READY YET", and worst of all, his victory "U CAN'T DEFEAT ME", is soooo annoying), hence why my nickname for Pit is ARMPIT.
 

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metaknight has 4 options actually more with gliding and multiple jumps. also pits isnt that great if hes hit in it. hes dead.
 

Rogue Pit

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umm... i wouldnt say pit for 'noobz, Mk aint the best but consider the best though i reckon him and snake are one of the best characters in the game atm, but i find Mk a unique character.
You dont find him unique i bet you do the same moves and pit is better. It would be snake and pit.

The major disadvantage MK has against pit in a battle is camping - those arrows can sure get annoying.
But MK owns pit in the air ;)
Its simple mach tornado n no arrow problem plus only noob pit spam which is where you get your examples from.

Does MK own pit in a battle?
Nowhere near own.

Metaknight is way better than pit. More options and two chances to glide.
Heres the deal i cant go under hyrule in one glide it isnt necessary for another glide. I dont see why people think that is a major advantage.

If you can master metaknight's gliding, then his is definately better than Pit's
Again pit can glide too. You learn how to glide with pit than you can glide with mk, hell you can glide with charizard it not hard to move your analog stick up and down dont act like its a sacred technique.

Overall MK Recovery is better than Pits Recovery
Why? Mk is more predictable and good players can gimp it

metaknight has 4 options actually more with gliding and multiple jumps. also pits isnt that great if hes hit in it. hes dead.
As i said it doesnt matter how many glides you have, all 4 of those options can be gimped and no really good pit would get hit in up b its not like you walk up n jab it isnt a walk in the park.

I play a really good Pit, and even HE says that MK is better. MK has more range, speed, and priority. Pit simply has more knockback, and a projectile. MK wins.

He doesnt fully understand the knock back part, that sets up for more combo and gimpin mk.
Seriaxe u have no idea MK may have better recovery but still Pit is the best by far at other stuff, like being alot more fun to play as.
his recovery isnt worst but your right
 

Rogue Pit

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Pits recovery is easily gimped. All you have to do is hit him and hes done for.
So yeah, I would assume MK has the superior recovery.
Your not understanding that you just dont hit him. Pit is like in space with 0 gravity he can move in any direction to avoid most moves

Yes


Mach tornado takes care of this quite nicely.
Also your forgetting pit has moves that can take out tornado it isnt invincible so the slaughter of the masked puff ball can continue
 

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Pit only has 3 midair jumps and his third jump can only be used once. If you get hit while using the third jump, you're pretty much history. Also, he can only glide once while he's airborne, which means that he can't glide again until he hits the ground.

For Meta Knight however, he gets 5 midair jumps and he glides after using his third jump. So even if you wasted your glide trying to recover, you always get another chance to glide just by using that third jump.
 

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What is it with you with Snake and Pit. Pit aint the best character, maybe that why Mk in the top tier and pit aint maybe that because Mk better then pit stop saying how snake better then mk when Mk is better then Pit and mate how the hell do you know i spam his move, opps i forgot your arrogant person, get over it Mk **** all over Pit.... Pit get own by MK in everyway except for weight, and power, Mk can rack damage better his moves are better and his RECOVERY HIS BETTER
 

Rogue Pit

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Omg not you again dont you ever give up and yes it easily to gimp him in mid air especially how Meta knight can chase Pit and hit him in mid air

Thats true but pit isnt slow it isnt an even chase seeing how pit moves faster than Mk while in up with the abilities to go up down left or right at will. Its like zero gravity where Mk still needs jump to catch up which are slower than Pit's Up B

Pit only has 3 midair jumps and his third jump can only be used once. If you get hit while using the third jump, you're pretty much history. Also, he can only glide once while he's airborne, which means that he can't glide again until he hits the ground.

For Meta Knight however, he gets 5 midair jumps and he glides after using his third jump. So even if you wasted your glide trying to recover, you always get another chance to glide just by using that third jump.
How many times do i have to say it Mks jump are so much smaller than pit's jumps if you get hit your not history. Your saying that because you only faced amateur pits who dont know how to play him that well, Pit's Wings of Icarus are sacred he can go anywhere at any typed speed in any direction. Any please explain why you need a second glide? Every glide ive ever used was to attack or make it back to the stage, a second glide isnt necessary. His Up b glide is mainly for attacking or shuttle looping, i bet noone actually uses it to come back to the stage. And please tell me how do you waste your glide? you just hit x again because your that good?

What is it with you with Snake and Pit. Pit aint the best character, maybe that why Mk in the top tier and pit aint maybe that because Mk better then pit stop saying how snake better then mk when Mk is better then Pit and mate how the hell do you know i spam his move, opps i forgot your arrogant person, get over it Mk **** all over Pit.... Pit get own by MK in everyway except for weight, and power, Mk can rack damage better his moves are better and his RECOVERY HIS BETTER
Mk isnt the best character either. The only reason Mk is top tier because its easy as hell to spam moves that normal people dont know how to stop. Pit can destroy MK, that weight and power part is all he needs over MK, pit can rack up damage to and its harder for MK to kill pit than it is verse-vera. Also mate i know you spam because you sound like a noob who doesnt know how to play :laugh:
 

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Ok first let me state that this is a stupid thread. Both of their recoveries are so good that it doesn't matter how far they can go.

Plus only a n00b gets his WoI gimped. =P

EDIT: Oh, and the person who said Pit is a n00b character... Dude, you're in a Metaknight forum. No characters are n00bish but Metaknight is the number one choice for n00bish players.
 

Undrdog

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Yeah but to be fair you were arguing invalid points as well. I mean both characters have amazing recoveries. Unless there really is some giant Metaknight / Pit feud going on this thread seems kinda pointless.

But if there is a Metaknight / Pit rivalry let me just say this. Pit is cooler then Metaknight! =P
 

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Yeah but to be fair you were arguing invalid points as well. I mean both characters have amazing recoveries. Unless there really is some giant Metaknight / Pit feud going on this thread seems kinda pointless.

But if there is a Metaknight / Pit rivalry let me just say this. Pit is cooler then Metaknight! =P
Nah it only him, he want to kill all meta knight players...
 

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I am honored by the name Sir Lucario, but if Undr Dog and u both brought this thread into here for a dispute, get outta here. ArmPit is regarded by many as annoying in the char threads, while most comment that MK is a match up that results in suicide if accepted. If u want to bring up Pit's other things, name it "who's better, Pit or MK?" rather than "who's recovery is better". MK is awesome, ArmPit IMO is just annoying. And whichever one of u said that a good player can gimp MK's recovery, easier said than done, and take that easiness, multiply it by 5, and u get gimping Pit's recovery. He has no speed, no true "attack" options, and yes, I hate Pit. I do have to admit, his edgegame is pretty good, but srsly, go post this somewhere else, of course MK ppl are gonna say theirs is better.
 

Seriaxe

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I am honored by the name Sir Lucario, but if Undr Dog and u both brought this thread into here for a dispute, get outta here. ArmPit is regarded by many as annoying in the char threads, while most comment that MK is a match up that results in suicide if accepted. If u want to bring up Pit's other things, name it "who's better, Pit or MK?" rather than "who's recovery is better". MK is awesome, ArmPit IMO is just annoying. And whichever one of u said that a good player can gimp MK's recovery, easier said than done, and take that easiness, multiply it by 5, and u get gimping Pit's recovery. He has no speed, no true "attack" options, and yes, I hate Pit. I do have to admit, his edgegame is pretty good, but srsly, go post this somewhere else, of course MK ppl are gonna say theirs is better.
Thanks man, finally good to see someone back me up. :chuckle:
 

brentlouis

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meta is much better, he can recover with all of his specials and, if pit gets hit he can't do up B again
 

JiangWei23

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Also, from what I can tell, Pit's Up+B actually DROPS him very briefly before letting you rise up with it. Not much of a difference since players can usually recover anyway, but if you're recovering from below every inch counts.

Metaknight's recovery > Pit's recovery
 
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