Meta Knight Q&A Thread

[Flayl]

IIRC, Bowser has a ground-release>pivot grab infinite on Meta Knight.

Yes, tell the bowser main who made the video on how to do the extended chaingrab what Bowser can or cannot do.

 

[Tokyoinamerica]

I have a question involving ZGrabs after Dtilt.

Is there any frame traps, or special tricks you can do to secure the grab? I've been whiffing on the grab a lot lately and then getting punished.

 

[Kaffei]

It's only guaranteed if the dtilt trips.

 

[-LzR-]

I keep getting owned in dittos even though others don't play MK. Any great or super important thing to keep in mind to be able to beat them?

 

[ぱみゅ]

I'm somehow good at dittos.
Is all about wait out of their range and punish stuff I know is punishable since I know my character lol

Baitings and readings are vital skills in MK Dittos! ;D

 

[Player-4]

If they don't play MK then they shouldn't know as much as you (if you know your character enough), wait for them to make the first moves/mistakes then punish them. If you're trying to play fast and aggressive with them and you're getting beat for it, slow it down.

 

[!!!RM!!!]

Try to minimize the amounts of openings to leave by putting out moves they can't react to like Dtilt and AC Fair. Just don't get predictable.

Also, try rolling OoS more. Rolling behind your opponent after like an Fsmash or Fair is only punishable if they read you, and rolling away from them puts you in a position to more safely approach.

Punish everything on shield with GSL or Dtilt. Besides Fsmash and spaced Ftilt3 on shield, you can punish anything and everything MK has if you just block it. :D

 

[Omni]

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someone tell me how to fight G&W

 

[Exdeath]

:Youtube Video:
someone tell me how to fight G&W

Doesn't this belong in the critique thread?

Yes, tell the bowser main who made the video on how to do the extended chaingrab what Bowser can or cannot do.

Well surely if you made a video about it then you know everything and are entirely infallible. It was my mistake to say that I recall a Bowser player telling me something, especially when someone who made The Video About It™ says otherwise.

 

[Kaffei]

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someone tell me how to fight G&W

i hate this MU so much lolz..

 

[KassandraNova]

Don't get frustrated. G&W will do the same **** over and over again. Utilt beats key, and you can smash DI out of his bair, as well as shuttle loop it.

I had to play a G&W awhile ago, and it's a pretty annoying MU. Mostly based on if you bait him correctly and actually punish him for it. :/

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

ftilt uair dair all you need

 

[Gnes]

ftilt uair dair all you need

Uhhh how u gonna kill?

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

ftilt at 500%

nah, gimpz all day

 

[Player-4]

Uhhh how u gonna kill?

Ftilt, Uair, or Dair duhh

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

oh i forgot just sitting in the air and nairing is super safe

so nair too

 

[Player-4]

Go away >_>

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

i was being serious about the first post. dairs are extremely useful but you have to use them differently than usual. dair camping just dont work very well. if you pressure oli's shield at a 45 degree angle with dair what can they do?

 

[Player-4]

The **** are you talking about? We're talking about GW not Olimar.

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

OH GOD my mistake

just get the G&W off stage and force them to up B onto the stage, punish, repeat

ftilt really shuts down GW's ground game... up and down air shut down the air game. this is a horrible matchup for GW

 

[theunabletable]

Watch Havok vs UTD Zac.

You now know the G&W matchup.

Pretty much, just play a solid ground game, follow up fairly well, but make sure you don't go too far out for your followups, 'cause he has a lot of range, and up B is gay. Just don't be predictable in the way you do **** on the ground, and you'll win. Grounded shuttle loop beats out his ****, too, so if he whiffs something, most situations you can just throw it out, and you beat it. And if he hits your shield with a non bair aerial, you can just up B it. You can up B bair, too, but if you don't know the timing of his bair, and stuff like that, you might mess up.

Learning to DI bair and punish him for hitting you with it isn't exactly essential to the matchup, MK ***** G&W without SDI ****, but with it, you'll **** him harder lol.

 

[!!!RM!!!]

Also, try GSL near the ledge when he's recovering. G&W is vulnerable for 2 frames before he can grab the ledge. But that's if he times his Up B perfectly. Basically, he's not invincible before he grabs the ledge so abuse that.

Whenever Dubs jumps at you just GSL lol. All he has to punish you with is like last hit of Bair or a full bucket. Thank God he can't get a full bucket against MK lol.

When you approach him expect him to do one of three things: shield, Dtilt, or grab. Just look for patterns and punish.

When he's recovering low time your ledge grab right before you think he'll up B. When he lands onstage you get a free Nair.

Box him in with tilts and GSL and punish everything he does on shield or whiff with GSL or Ftilt.

GGs.

 

[Exdeath]

Uhhh how u gonna kill?

Dair off of the stage.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

I have a question.

Aside from Wario are there any characters that can do well against (or at least not get *****) on Brinstar vs a Metaknight?

 

[Kaffei]

I have a question.

Aside from Wario are there any characters that can do well against (or at least not get *****) on Brinstar vs a Metaknight?

IMO, Game& Watch & MK ditto

 

[etecoon]

GAW definitely, only character really that I'd rather not fight on brinstar. if they don't have a GAW I'm LOLing at them banning RC instead

 

[Player-4]

Wario does really well on Brinstar, and even Ike imo

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

Don't forget yoshi the unholy broken of all brokens

 

[Joaco]

Tips vs Pit?

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

get them off the stage, then they lose a stock

 

[!!!RM!!!]

Go Ganon since this MU is obviously not in MK's favor.

 

[BlueZebra]

Yoshi's grab release is evil. My best option is spot dodging it perfectly and punishing or dair camping. Any other good options, or any attacks that out space Yoshi's satanic tongue?

 

[KassandraNova]

We should seriously have a yoshi mu thread.
D:

...I hate yoshi...

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

yoshi is the bane of michigan's existence

 

[ChKn]

I'm relatively new to learning the MUs from MKs perspective, so what's the reasoning for grabbing the ledge when another MK is off the stage? I was watching Ally and Seibrik's match at Pound V and I noticed that Ally would grab the ledge multiple times.

Here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJmrSRxA7bA

A specific example would be at 17:29. What options is he taking away from Seibrik's MK?

 

[etecoon]

you gain invincibility frames that can let you nair them if they try to recover directly

 

[!!!RM!!!]

He can't grab the ledge lol. ^__^

 

[vato_break]

how do i beat the socal marth? =[

 

[etecoon]

how do i beat the socal marth? =[

use diddy

laugh at him for using a bad character

 

[Dojo]

use diddy

laugh at him for using a bad character

Please do this ete, I'd really like to see it.