i think the real story with meta knight is that he is never disadvantaged anywhere and completely breaks metagaming with counterpicks.
Well if we should ban Meta Knight for not having any disadvantages in Brawl, we should also ban Pikachu in Smash 64, Fox in Melee, and Marth in Melee. By that logic, most fighting games would have banned characters.
On top of that, several fighting games have characters with 60/40 matchups or better against the other top tier characters, yet they remain unbanned.
As for your counter pick logic, just ban Meta Knight from counter picking non-neutral stages, or on specific stages like Brinstar and Rainbow Cruise. Really that isn't that hard to enforce, and next to no one has tried it. Try it out, and if it works, great. If not, find another solution (banning planking, lulz), or ban those stages (as much as I hate to say that for Rainbow Cruise).
love anti-ban's logic sometimes.
"mk should not be banned just because a few TO's said so, the community needs a say in this!"
*a public poll was held where 76% of the community voted FOR the ban.*
You do realize anyone could vote on it, right=??? Including folks who don't play smash competitively, or play Melee competitively...
That's like Canadians voting in a American election, or vice versa. It don't involve you, so GTFO noob.
On top of that, there have been 7 "Final Polls" on the Meta Knight ban, with all but the first (which had like 5,000 votes, mostly by n00bs, scrubs, and people who want the smash ball legal), and the last resulting in more anti-bans than bans. Really, shouldn't these polls continue until we have more pro-ban result polls than anti-ban result polls=??? We should wait until 6 more polls run legitimately with proof that you attended a tournament to rule whether Meta Knight should be banned or not over the course of the time frame (as in the gap between each polls). Of course, that would take about 4 years or so.
This also shows that the URC wanted him ban, on top of the years of gay rules, gay stages, and movement to make the URC overrule anything the Brawl Back Room rules upon. I've been aware of this for nearly 2 years, and others have theorized that there has been a conspiracy to ban Meta Knight since around the time of the first Meta Knight ban poll. Since then, various people strongly for the Meta Knight ban have been accepted into the Brawl Back Room (and then the URC), whereas few anti-Meta Knight ban people were allowed into the Brawl Back Room, and none into the URC. Oh, and no one in the URC mains (or I think even uses) Meta Knight.
The BBR use to run everything. The Brawl Back Room consists of the top players and TO's. They make sense. They made rules that advanced Brawl competitively, much like the Melee Back Room did with Melee. Now, the Brawl Back Room is no different from the Brawl Competitive discussion, other than the fact it is private.
Plus the URC is run by mostly unknowns, several of whom are inactive in Brawl. That's like putting a retired military commander from World War I in charge of an army today. Crap ain't the same today.
"uhh..well mk should not be banned just to give mediocre players a chance"
*then proof is shown that most pro players except for a few mk mains all wanted him banned as well*
Are you referring to that All is Brawl post=??? Many of them wanted to test it out. Several said they want Meta Knight-banned tournaments to be more prominent, but not be at every national tournament (and I strongly agree with this sentiment, and have been saying it for years).
You also do realize pro-Meta Knight banned people are more often n00bs who don't even play smash competitively, right=???
"you shouldn't compare brawl to other fighting game communities"
*anti ban then goes right on their word and trys to compare brawl to another community hoping to get their point across*
Who the hell says you can't compare smash to other 2D fighting games=??? The only thing you can't compare are the stage aspect, since nearly every other 2D fighting games have invisible walls and is played a flat stage, and it is the first to get KO'd, not the first to get knocked off the screen.
Other than that, references to other fighting games are totally relevant. For example, Meta Knight has all 50-50 match ups with all or nearly all the top tier characters. There are characters in several fighting games that have all 60/40 odds or better against all the other top tier characters.
"people are gonna QUIT brawl if mk is banned"
*even though many players who have already left said they are willing to come back now that meta is gone, the only player i've seen so far who said he's "outright quitting" cuz of the mk ban is M2K.*
Actually, there is a Meta Knight-main movement to still play with Meta Knight-banned and win with other characters to prove that Meta Knight isn't broken; they are. So far, several Meta Knight mains have won Meta Knight-banned tournaments with other characters just as successfully.
As for M2K, he just quit URC rule set tournaments. URC rule set tournaments accounted for 60% or so of tournaments over the course of August, and I expect that number to drop.
Melee is already bigger at nationals, Melee's community dominates in areas like New York, and the Melee rule set committee actually has faith in their game competitively.
*goes to play the better Smash Bros. game that the competitive community for said actually has faith in the game competitively*
None of your points give specific examples of people saying that. Mine you can see every other post by some ran-dumb smasher who probably doesn't know the difference between the L-button and the R-button, and plays the game with the Wiimote and Nunchucks with the shake smash function on.
On top of that, you have Pit as your avatar, and as we all know, Pit mains are 100 times worse than Melee Peach mains.
On top of that, Meta Knight still ain't as broken as Pikachu in Smash 64.
And no way is Meta Knight as broken in Brawl as Isai in Smash 64. BAN ISAI IN SMASH SIXTY-FOURRRR!!!!
