I completely object the MK and Snake MUs. Snake ESPECIALLY.
So because you eat Cypher means so much? It doesn't happen often enough to change the MU like that. No good Snake will recover from that low to let you do that. They DI up, DJ, and Cypher immidiately, putting themselves out of just about every character's range.
How do you beat Ftilt? The predictable AD? You guys lack so much range, and he has far too much of it to have a 4:6 against you.
Granted Snake can't really camp Wario from a distance, but mid-range is not a stretch for Snake. When you need to get in range of him to damage with Dair for example, he will almost always have Grenades crawling around him to protect him and make you think twice in attacking him.
Second, Wario has 2 truly reliable kill moves. Fart will kill pretty well, but if you whiff, you're stuck with 2 moves. Fsmash may have SA, but it lacks range, and it you can be grabbed right out of it. Uair also lacks range, and Snake will still live into high percents from both of those moves.
I just don't understand how you think you can gimp him so much better than anyone else in the game besides MK and maybe 1 or 2 characters. Eating Cypher is situational from the sounds of it.
The MU should be even from my pov, if not 55:45 Snake. Hell, 6:4 Snake would be even better.
And I thought Wario only had a CG on Dk till about 102%? Didn't think it was an infinite. Either way, Wario still has that one, but it isn't beyond hope like D3/DK.
I don't agree with MK either. It's at least 55:45 MK.
And I just feel like I need to say this, but if you can justify why he is so much better than everyone to deserve third on the TL, then go ahead.
Wario's entire offensive strategy relies on captializing on opponent's mistakes. Everyone in S tier has some form of offensive strategy that is completely separate from their punishing ability. In other words, punishing isn't what they rely on the most.
MK is MK pretty easy there. Snake will punish with tilts, but also has grenades along with DACUS and Dthrow tech chase, Diddy does insane things with Naners, grabs, and aerials, Falco will laser and Phantasm along with CG, D3 will use Dthrow CG or a Bthrow/Fthrow, can use a wall of Bairs and Waddle spam.
Honestly, people will learn to play this MU like they did with Olimar, and then Wario won't be so intimidating.
Wario relies on about 4 moves. Nair, Dair, Bair, Fair. Correct me if I'm wrong.