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JPOBS

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If it was a 25 vs 25 crew battle, EC would get spanked.

but EC also has a habit of including all of south in their ranks and they are crazy top heavy because of it. I understand that states like georgia and florida are technically to the east and on the coast as well, but south is strong enough to have its own team for sure.

in a crew battle where it was top 10 but EC didn't have the south, they would get wrecked.
WC vs South would be hype though.

also an international crew with EU and Canada would be great to see. I think has to be a mix because i think either EU or Canada alone would get beat pretty bad by any of the US squads. could be wrong tho.
 

SleepyK

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what

the south has been represented as its own crew for the past few years
 

Niko45

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If it was a 25 vs 25 crew battle, EC would get spanked.

but EC also has a habit of including all of south in their ranks and they are crazy top heavy because of it. I understand that states like georgia and florida are technically to the east and on the coast as well, but south is strong enough to have its own team for sure.

in a crew battle where it was top 10 but EC didn't have the south, they would get wrecked.
WC vs South would be hype though.

also an international crew with EU and Canada would be great to see. I think has to be a mix because i think either EU or Canada alone would get beat pretty bad by any of the US squads. could be wrong tho.
what .
 

SleepyK

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canada has enough people total on their EC for their own crew. their WC crew is less populated iirc.
 

JPOBS

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indeed. number of people wasn't really what I was considering though. I was more so comparing the top 10 canada to top 10 wc/south/ec and i think its a big gap overall.
 

SleepyK

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hmm, i dunno if it's fair to lump canada into one big crew, considering they have their own coasts and providences. i guess it'd be up to them, really.
 

Mogwai

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I want to expect better of you, but I know not to
If it was a 25 vs 25 crew battle, EC would get spanked.

but EC also has a habit of including all of south in their ranks and they are crazy top heavy because of it. I understand that states like georgia and florida are technically to the east and on the coast as well, but south is strong enough to have its own team for sure.

in a crew battle where it was top 10 but EC didn't have the south, they would get wrecked.
WC vs South would be hype though.

also an international crew with EU and Canada would be great to see. I think has to be a mix because i think either EU or Canada alone would get beat pretty bad by any of the US squads. could be wrong tho.
1. Apex = habit. What?

2. If you're gonna get that butthurt over it, I propose that socal be it's own crew and then Norcal + Washington and Oregon (lol) be their own crews. If we're gonna have arbitrary rules on coast splitting, might as well be consistently arbitrary.
 

SleepyK

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mogwai, teach me how to dougie.

i mean improve at league
 

Divinokage

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indeed. number of people wasn't really what I was considering though. I was more so comparing the top 10 canada to top 10 wc/south/ec and i think its a big gap overall.
*Shakes head* Overall? You kidding me? If we have every best player from Canada, we definitely have a good chance.
 

JPOBS

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hmm, i dunno if it's fair to lump canada into one big crew, considering they have their own coasts and providences. i guess it'd be up to them, really.
Im thinking more from a competitive standpoint to make things interesting. Like, canada could be split up into its different regions, but by nature of canada being less active overall and such, doing so would make each individual crew from canada pretty weak I feel. A combined canadian isn't overly strong, they are just another good squad and I think in the interest of competitiveness that makes it better as a battle.

1. Apex = habit. What?
I stand corrected. I thought south was included at the FC's and genesis.

2. If you're gonna get that butthurt over it, I propose that socal be it's own crew and then Norcal + Washington and Oregon (lol) be their own crews. If we're gonna have arbitrary rules on coast splitting, might as well be consistently arbitrary.
ok?
but moreso check my response to sleepyK. ec+south is really OP, imo. so in the interest of excitement and competitiveness between the crews i think its better to split them up.

Also, splitting the regions by WC and EC isn't any less arbitrary than splitting it WC/EC/south whatever. Especially when states like florida are literally considered "the south" in non-smash related circles (aka life).
 

SleepyK

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Also, splitting the regions by WC and EC isn't any less arbitrary than splitting it WC/EC/south whatever. Especially when states like florida are literally considered "the south" in non-smash related circles (aka life).
depends on how you define "the south."
that's an insulting statement to the rich culture and heritage "the south" holds.
Florida isn't considered a "southern" state by the average American definition other than its location.

watch yer back. us johnny rebs are keepin an eye on you.
 

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but when i say east coast, florida is also included in that. When having coast vs coast, i think most southern states should be included, just like i would expect AZ to play on the WC team.
 

SleepyK

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i can't believe no one has pointed out that i'm asian
 

SleepyK

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ironically, thanks to GAWes, i actually have a deep appreciation for southern history and southern culture.



.... which doesn't really include florida's history.
 

SleepyK

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florida has its own rich history, it's just not as "southern historyish" as the other southern states, as it was initially a spanish colony and whatnot.
 

Aniolas

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Region: Sweden, Europe
Primary Character(s): Sheik
Secondary Character(s): Peach and Marth

REQUIRED

1. Q. How long have you been playing competitive melee?
A. I went to my first tournament in feb 2005 (RoS)

2. Q. How often do you attend tournaments? How familiar are you with your local scene? Your regional scene? The national/international scene?
A. I try to attend every tournament in europe (as long as it's somewhat a major tournament and not just a smashfest). I went abroad ten times last year (two times to US) and minor tournaments and smashfests in Sweden. Due the fact that I travel very much and been around for a long time I'm familiar to the whole Melee scene.

3. Q. How would you classify yourself as a player relative to the current metagame? (beginner, average, high level, pro, etc.)
A. In teams, my brother and I have won 7 consecutive tournaments in europe, and placed 3rd at APEX. With those results I consider myself a pro in teams.
Singles on the other hand, I see myself as average or high level.

4. Q. Do you think the other individuals in your region would support you being a member of the MBR? Why?
A. I think so. I've been around for a long time, I often help people improve their game and often seen as somewhat of a leader in the swedish scene. I can't come up with a reason why they wouldn't support me.

5. Q. Do you consider yourself a discussion leader? Why?
A. I study law, I love to debate.

6. Q. Are you an active Tournament Organizer? If Yes, what are some recent tournaments you have hosted? If No, what are some ways you feel you contribute to your local scene despite not being a TO?
A. I'm one of the organizers in the BEAST-series. BEAST was in january and is the biggest tournament in europe this year so far. BEAST II will take place in august and hopefully be even bigger, and some north americans have shown their interest.

7. Q. Do you feel that the current tier list is accurate? Why?
A. It's hard to make a really accurate list, because the meta game change all the time, and so does the list. After I've entered a couple of US tournaments I do feel that the list is more accurate then I did before.

8. Q. Do you feel that the current MBR recommended stage list is fair? Why?
A. It's ok, but I prefer to play with the european standard stage list. RC gives Fox so much advantage, especially in NTSC, and all neutrals aren't really neutrals against Fox. But, if we still would allow stages like PPC and Onett (were legal in some countries in europe not that long ago) we wouldn't have seen the jiggz domination the last two years.

The discussion about stages need more space than in the application, but overall, it's ok.

9. Q. Do you feel that the current MBR recommended rule set is fair? Why?
A. I do. Melee wasn't created as an balanced tournament game. It is a party game. In order to make the game as competitive as possible, we had to make a lot of rules. I guess topics like wobbling and stuff is still somewhat up to debate, but overall, I like the rule set.

10. Q. What is more important to you: Tech Skill or Strategy? Why?
A. As almost everything, you need the balance (yin and yang). You won't be able to become the best with just one, but if I had to choose one, I would say strategy. Good tech skill only takes you so far, then people will start to see your pattern and punish you all the time. Sure, strategy without proper tech skill will make it hard to win, but you have a decent chance to trick the opponent and punish his mistakes better.

11. Q. What is more important to you: Maximizing Punishments (Combos) or Initiating Punishments (First Hits)? Why?
A. The metagame today, which is less aggresive then before, I think that first hit is more important, because you have less opportunities nowadays.

12. Q. Does SSBM have a limited lifespan as a competitive community due to its age or any other factor? Why or why not?
A. The lack of online gaming is a problem. And it's harder to find copies of SSBM and controllers. People that compete today won't compete forever, in order to make the community continue, we need new players aswell. It's up to the community, we have to show people that we exist.

13. Q. What do you think could be done to expand our community?
A. I, and some other guys, hosts tournaments at DreamHack every summer and winter. It's the worlds biggest LAN-party, it's mostly computer games, but some big tournaments in video games is hosted aswell (SSFIV). It's a lot of potential players that doesn't know about the swedish community, and every time a couple of people later join our forum and starts to attend tournaments.

As I said before, we have to show ourselfs to people so they know we exist. We're trying really hard with that in Sweden.

14. Q. What do you think the MBR could do to stimulate the community?
A. MBR has helped the scene to make tournaments more competetive with the rule set etc. Before the release of SSBB everyone was saying that we should say goodbye to SSBM, and it wouldn't survive. People had wrong. Even though very much in the game has been discovered, the metagame will change, and theories in matchups and about character will continue to be discussed. MBR can help with new rules (if it's needed in the future) tier lists and advice/information about the game.

15. Q. How do you think the MBR would benefit from your input?
A. Recently a tier list of teams have been posted. I'm glad that teams is more acknowledged than before, it's not just a side event, it's much different from singles. As one of the best teams players in the world I think I can give good inputs in future discussion about teams. Not just tier list, but match ups and strategies.


OPTIONAL

1. Please provide up to 5 examples of contributions you have made to the melee community. Links to exceptional, informative posts are highly valued here.

Sorry to say that I can't come up with any good posts. The contributions I have made is mostly private messages to other smashers that wanted advices in teams.

2. List up to three players you feel demonstrate good discussion ability or have outstanding contributions to the community and explain why you think they are a good example.
1. Player: Marc
i. Reason: The one we have to thanks for not playing with items in europe. From the start Marc has shown a good amount of logic and reason behind his contributions to help the scene and make the game evolve to a more competetive game.
2. Player: Amsah
i. Reason: In a thread about coaching he was the voice of reason that made me change my mind and a lot of other players.
3. Player: KirbyKaze
i. Reason: He has been very active in the Sheik section and helps a lot of people how to improve.

3. Have you read Sirlin's theories regarding "Play to Win"? Do you agree or disagree? Why? How do you think these theories affect and apply to the Melee community?
1. Answer:Havenät read the book.



ADDITIONAL COMMENTS/FINAL WORDS:
Active since 2005, travel to all tournaments there is, organize tournaments aswell and know a lot about the game. I hope that's good enough to be accepted to the MBR.
 

KishPrime

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Man, this new Back Room is AWESOME.

Cactuar and I have got so many plans and tier lists to reveal over the next 6 years.
 

rhan

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So the accepting has already begun? I've been checking the first page to see if it started for the last 3 weeks..
 

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It was supposed to be an april fools joke, and afterwards they were going to disban the MBR. But then they never told anyone. Cactuar and Kage are still giggling about it in the empty MBR forums.
 

trahhSTEEZY

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are you kidding? so everyone thoroughly did these apps as a joke that was never even told? how ****in' lame lmao.

boring joke
 

Cactuar

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It was supposed to be an april fools joke, and afterwards they were going to disban the MBR. But then they never told anyone. Cactuar and Kage are still giggling about it in the empty MBR forums.
are you kidding? so everyone thoroughly did these apps as a joke that was never even told? how ****in' lame lmao.

boring joke
Way to get trolled. Lrn2internet.

:troll:
 
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