~Marth's Match Ups~

[Emblem Lord]

darkspartan: Fox boards has fallen into the abyss of the 9th level of hell.

No one can save them.

 

[darkspatan117]

darkspartan: Fox boards has fallen into the abyss of the 9th level of hell.

No one can save them.

I remember when they thought to be even with MK it took You,Gheb and Dr Mario Guy
to tell them they were wrong !

 

[Shaya]

Is Meta Knight Assassin with the influence SAKURA'S DARKNESS AFTER SABER WAS INSTEAD MELTED?

Also don't bring up some UBW where Archer shuts down Saber's approach with the fear of bringing out the Falchion.

 

[Zankoku]

Meta Knight is more like Caster's Assassin, actually... like, he does Tsubame Gaeshi's all over the place with that fair and bair of his.

Not sure who True Assassin would be closely represented by...

 

[KY_Des]

Dedede is as easy as drinking water. I beat him bad. I pwn lvl 9 dededes

lol what? This statement is full of fail. If lvl 9s meant anything, then Mario would be top tier in this game. He can powershield everything! WOW!!!

lol.... lvl 9s.... man ur funny

 

[Steel]

Just as an FYI to peeps I have some good vids of my Marth coming. be excited

let me see so i can critique pl0z

 

[Shaya]

Meta Knight is more like Caster's Assassin, actually... like, he does Tsubame Gaeshi's all over the place with that fair and bair of his.

Not sure who True Assassin would be closely represented by...

True Assassin would be represented by infinite dimension cape. And Sheik. Sheik and Infinite Dimension Cape works beautifally.

And but but Caster's Assassin doesn't FLY. And gets owned by Saber.
I think Metaknight is GILGAMESH broken though.

**** imagine how good gilgamesh would be in brawl. *fangasms*

 

[feardragon64]

me too steel said he's going to upload them tomorrow

You two have falcon/fox fun again? Or was it ganons this time?

I remember when they thought to be even with MK it took You,Gheb and Dr Mario Guy
to tell them they were wrong !

What do you mean thought. They still do looking at the posts they have over there...

 

[Xiivi]

Fox boards are terrible, half of them are on my ignore list. I tried to remedy the terrible discussion by creating a Fox Back Room only inviting the select few who made sense. But even then I gave up when they started saying G&W could be 40-60/45-55. I don't know what to do to convince them of Fox's match-ups anymore. You Marth boards have it easy.

 

[feardragon64]

Fox boards are terrible, half of them are on my ignore list. I tried to remedy the terrible discussion by creating a Fox Back Room only inviting the select few who made sense. But even then I gave up when they started saying G&W could be 40-60/45-55. I don't know what to do to convince them of Fox's match-ups anymore. You Marth boards have it easy.

Step 1) Get someone who actually knows stuff.
Step 2) Slowly educate the nubs.
Step 3) See who is actually listening to the educated person and talk to them more to clarify perceptions.
Step 4) Flaming idiots and writing a ****-ton of well thought out posts.
Step 5) Start cleaning up the boards. Be active in almost every topic whether it's accurate information or flaming the **** out of someone for posting a worthless post.
Step 6) Repeat step 5. This takes a while.
Step 7) Eventually a group of people are educated enough to pass on you knowledge and think for themselves so the educated person can go play Soul Calibur 4 and not post for 3 days, etc.
Step 8) Repeat steps 5-6 but with the newly educated groups being the educated person/people. Cleaning boards never ends.

At least that's how I always saw the Marth boards evolution. Only not enough people seemed to resepct EL until he had purple...lol

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Hey Steel, when u gonna change the Wolf match-up to 55:45 Marth's favour? I'm waiting for you to do it because of Dan's Character Board specific match-up chart project...

About the Fox boards: Poor Fools. I tried to convince them over more than 5 pages, how they have the disadvantage against Snake and they still couldn't accept it, despite the fact that they never even brought up one serious argument. But then again they called my a troll (because I proved that Falco has better combos than Fox ) and other stuff lol.

A funny side note: It seems that some Fox players also play Zelda. In Ankoku's match-up discussion I debated about the Sheik/Zelda vs Dedede and I had to convince the same people who think Fox vs Snake is even that Zelda doesn't hard counter D3. And surprisingly I was called a troll again (and other stuff...).
And when I bring up an argument the most common answer was:"Shut up, u don't even play Fox / Zelda." Haha, of course they know it because I have that little picture of Wolf under my post count
And they don't seem to understand when I tell them that I play all top tier characters + Marth + Wolf + Bowser....

Some people just never learn

lol yeah I can understand you Xiivi when you envy the Marth boards (although the Wolf board isn't too bad either. Not much going on though XDDD)

 

[Zankoku]

Wolf board is pretty bad, but only because most of the intelligent posters there left it in disgust.

 

[_Kadaj_]

shiek boards are ok but i never post tho.
alot of the people i've seen that are said to be really good sheik's just roll around all the time from what i've seen.

(i second sheik fyi)

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Wolf board is pretty bad, but only because most of the intelligent posters there left it in disgust.

Not true.

That was months ago (aka before I came =P) and everybody except Koskinator either stayed or came back. The Wolf boards are completely updated: Accurate match-up's + stage guides, best frame rata data by far. Wolf board is pretty much like marth board now only with les activity.

 

[Steel]

When? I dunno, no one really ever agreed on anything. I’ll discuss it with people later.

 

[Emblem Lord]

We need frame data dammit.

Then the Marth boards rule will be ABSOLUTE!!!!

 

[Steel]

*glares at Ankoku

 

[feardragon64]

We need frame data dammit.

Then the Marth boards rule will be ABSOLUTE!!!!

List of things needed in frame data:

Frame that attack comes out on:
Frame attacks no longer out on:
Total frame number:

ilu anko/ulevo <3

 

[∫unk]

You two have falcon/fox fun again? Or was it ganons this time?

No like actual matches where opponents are 3 ft away versus 3000 miles away. I sent Steel 3 Marth vs. someone-else matches (all different opponents).

And Steel ***** me wifi every time I try speed hugging I just end up fast falling off the edge.

And I wish I could play Germ the only Wolfs I play are scrubs in the first round that just shield to d-smash or laser camp to f-smash.

 

[Steel]

Because 3000 mile lag means a lot.

Added marth ditto gayness summary.

 

[_Kadaj_]

Marth dittos aren't that bad

 

[AndrewCarlson]

Gheb, I was under the impression that the match-up between Marth and Wolf was always 60:40? I never really noticed anyone saying 55:45 other than a few Wolf mains. Otherwise, I think most of the Marth mains strongly believe it's 60:40 at worst for Marth.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

^ No U. Click at the link and see it for yourself

 

[AndrewCarlson]

My mistake. I was looking at the Marth match-up thread on the Wolf boards.

 

[_Kadaj_]

marth doesn't have a large advantage over luigi switch him to the 60:40 category.

 

[Emblem Lord]

Luigi should be 65/35 from the data.

There is no way he does worse then Mario.

 

[_Kadaj_]

Hey Steel when are you gonna finish the summaries? Just out of curiosity

 

[Steel]

you know like

when i have time.

 

[_Kadaj_]

figured that much.
You should come to c3 you live in jersy you ARE apart of this region as well.

Who knows maybe you could play me

 

[Steel]

its soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo far away though.

 

[phi1ny3]

The summaries are looking good. I look at them after I read the thread to determine "highlights" that were touched on.

 

[_Kadaj_]

not if you ride with someone already going. then you can sleep in the car

could you finish the diddy summary before next week?

 

[Steel]

yeah probably.

 

[_Kadaj_]

thanks it would be greatly appreciated

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

thanks it would be greatly appreciated

Having Diddy trouble Kadaj?

Do you have a tourney coming up?

 

[_Kadaj_]

Not having diddy trouble I play a good diddy all the time I would just like to see what other people have to say on the matter

 

[_Kadaj_]

Diddy still isn't done lol

 

[Steel]

............****

 

[_Kadaj_]

Lol ^ steel catch a ride with atmosk to C3

 

[Steel]

ill try and get diddy summary in tomorrow