~Marth's Match Ups~

[Brinzy]

*chimes in*

It's the first tier list. Of course it's not gonna seem all that great.

 

[sandwhale]

Falco was put at top tier because of all the **** match ups he has, but this would go against EL's logic about the top match ups. Either way, Marth doesn't **** as many characters as falco does which is why they put him up there.

But that tier list is garbage anyway imo

so this brings us back to what i said about falco's placement in the tier list being so because of the **** matchup he has against the less good characters wich contradicts with the tier list being based on the top 10 match-ups, which i agree with EL as being more suited. Now if we follow his logic then that brings incoherences in the tier list as you said.

 

[Steel]

Personally I think marth should be above ROB and Falco simply for the reasons you and EL stated, but gg SBR >_>

 

[ZHMT]

*chimes in*

It's the first tier list. Of course it's not gonna seem all that great.

The list wont be changing much, most likely.

 

[feardragon64]

Why bother with the tier list. Let the falco and rob mainers have their pat on the back. It doesn't really mean much. It's not like the tier list ACTUALLY changes anything about how we play our character.

 

[_Kadaj_]

Lol your sooo right ^

 

[Mmac]

Wasn't the agreement for Yoshi 65:35?

 

[Steel]

Yes, and i think it was yoshi's ftilt range that settled that. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[_Kadaj_]

I think that tier list is stupid

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

^Yes and I've changed my position, I used to think it mattered. All I can say is that we Marth mains gotta stick together and win all the tourneys we can and play as hard as we can and GIVE 'EM HELL

 

[Steel]

guys were like almost done lulz

 

[_Kadaj_]

Yea! Best in the biz

 

[Emblem Lord]

Remember guys that even though we are done, feel free to go back into any match-up thread to post your thoughts and strategies.

 

[Pr0phetic]

yeah, because there's gonna be fresh stuff to try everyday, I wonder who's next Steel...

Pokemon Trainer, Link, Ganondorf? (we really are almost done, I had 2 remember those names...)

 

[hippiedude92]

I say do link and ganon in like 2 days tops nothing deep about that.

 

[feardragon64]

People left:
-falcon
-ganon
-ike
-jiggly
-link
-lucas
-marth(lol ditto)
-ness
-olimar
-pt

Guys iono, falcon owns Marth we should probably cover him soon. 80:20 Falcon

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

We should probably do Olimar next since he is the best character left to do on the list.

 

[_Kadaj_]

Yea olimar should be next

 

[Mmac]

Looking back, Grab Release to Dancing Blade/Dolphin Slash on MetaKnight might be more helpful than you might think. Forward, Forward, Upwards sets MetaKnight perfectly for a Sweetspot final Upwards Dancing Blade which can kill at 80. Dolphin Slash also works well, but is stubborn (at least for me), But can kill just as early near the ledge. B-Sticking makes it easier.

I don't Main Marth and I don't like telling other people what to do, but I think it's being overlooked and underestimated in this matchup

 

[Emblem Lord]

It won't kill at 80. Each hit deteriorates the next one.

GR is good, but somewhat overrated.

 

[Steel]

We will probably rediscuss Meta once we finish the match ups. We took all of those into consideration, and DB doesn't kill Meta till about 100.. at least on FD.

 

[Mmac]

It won't kill at 80. Each hit deteriorates the next one.

GR is good, but somewhat overrated.

Oh yeah.... forgot about that.....

Wow, It deteriorates fast :S Still Dolphin Slash works great B-Sticked

We will probably rediscuss Meta once we finish the match ups. We took all of those into consideration, and DB doesn't kill Meta till about 100.. at least on FD.

I'm not completely saying to completely focus on Grab Releases, but sloping it to slightly more in the grab game can't hurt.

Yeah it doesn't. I forgot I was testing on Training.... but I didn't knew that each hit in the chain reduces the overall strike of the attack. It can still be used as a good damage racker though

 

[Steel]

We probably won't even discuss the grab release when we rediscuss.. like El said it's pretty overrated.

 

[_Kadaj_]

Yea also I've been notricing the only thing that's work on meta ater grab release is dash attack if the mk double sticks away from marth he can't do f-air db or ds I've try'd numerous times with those 3 options they use to work but not anymore only dash attack works when they double stick away from you

 

[Hayang]

Match-Ups !
Pokemon Trainer 65:35 Marth
70:25 Marth
65:35 Marth
60:40 Marth

Squirtle 25, Marth 70, ???? 5

 

[Steel]

im good at math, did you know

 

[Steel]

Updated kirby and fox ratios. i really felt these two matches should be closer after looking back on them

 

[Emblem Lord]

Fox was fine at 65/35 IMO. Kirby is a much better character then Fox with better options overall.

 

[Steel]

But fox is fast and stuffs >_>

Similar to sheik imo when it comes to getting inside Marth's sword, though he has like no approach. Am I wrong on that?

 

[MK26]

EDIT: dammit i type slow...3 posts in the 5 mins it took for me to type this

 

[Steel]

6 minutes ahead of you, sir

 

[MK26]

Oh well, at least we agree

 

[_Kadaj_]

Lol that signature is pretty funny EL

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

I'm so glad we are like done with these... I'm getting off SmashBoards now. Good night my friends. *tries not to sound like John McCain*

 

[_Kadaj_]

Lol
We are done

Now to try and find more ways to beat meta knight and snake

 

[Steel]

we still need a manliness competition against falcon... not done yet

 

[_Kadaj_]

O right I miss counted

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

So one more? Good **** guys!

 

[VietGeek]

So one more? Good **** guys!

Steel simply doesn't understand that we forgot Roy.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Oh duhh! even I forgot him... I think it is 98.74-2.26 ROy because of that Fair-Uair-Bair-Side B-neutral B-Nair-Upb-Dair combo that only works at 6%