Mario Boards: General Discussion

[manofgames4555]

If played well Mario can take on Falco.

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

That's like saying that I didn't play well. It's not the fact that I don't play well, it's the fact that I don't know the matchup, and NJz is a really good Falco.

 

[Calebyte]

Calebyte has the best Mario sig.

 

[condemned_soul]

with Falco, I think it comes down to whoever gets the first kill between him and mario will have the best ratio to win IMO. lol im slowly but surely learn how to debate in the mario boards.

 

[fromundaman]

That's like saying that I didn't play well. It's not the fact that I don't play well, it's the fact that I don't know the matchup, and NJz is a really good Falco.

Well, yeah... MY experience is always necessary to perform well regardless.

Also, I have to say, I think Xero and Vato are tied as the two most humble Marios...

 

[vato_break]

falco is easy

 

[A2ZOMG]

Falco is NOT easy.

If all he does is run away and laser camp and SideB and if he spotdodges your grabs a lot...he's really really ****ing gay to deal with.

Getting the first kill is indeed important since you want SOME way to force him to approach.

I really don't know how to beat my friend's Falco at all, and all he does in friendlies is camp for 8 minutes straight if given the opportunity. Caping lasers and throwing fireballs only does so much. You have to duck his lasers and powershield his SideB.

Pierce and I talked about this matchup...it is probably 6/4 Falco. It's definitely a worrisome matchup if your opponent is patient and good. It's harder than say...Snake.

Snake I don't think is easy enough to be a 55/45, but you can at least approach Snake and mix him up and set him up for consistent KOs. Percentwise he may appear more intimidating, but in practice, he is much less tedious to deal with than a really really campy Falco since he's more easily juggled and YOU KNOW when he wants to use a ground move.

How many of you have charged F-smashed Snake when he F-tilts? I guarantee you...it's the best feeling ever when it works, especially when you realize you just killed him at like 90%.

 

[Matt07]

I don't think Falco is 6:4 even with Falco camping, in my opinion.

Caping the lasers helps you, you might be getting hit the odd time, but so will he when he mis-times a laser and eats one back. Side B has some start-up, and a SH n-air will help you with that, Cape might work, it's either you will take some damage, or he will die offstage if he uses it too close to the ledge. You just gotta predict his camping movements, and know when he's going for a Side B.

I'll just avoid saying anything for Snake since it's one of my hardest match-up's besides Daydayday...

 

[Kanzaki]

Falco is easy.

 

[Allied]

Mario is high tier... on wifi

 

[KirinBlaze]

Falco is not easy. Patient Falco ***** Mario. You HAVE to approach then get grabbed. It's a really ****ing annoying MU. I've started using Pit in place of Mario for this MU. I'm probably going to use them both for it. It's just too annoying with Mario alone.

 

[Matt07]

Wolf is higher. A lot higher.

@Kirin, use Pikachu instead, horrid match-up for Falco .

 

[KirinBlaze]

That's just dirty, Matt. xD

 

[A2ZOMG]

Mario is horrible on wifi...

Aside from fireball camping, spacing in general is a major pain on wifi.

Luigi on the other hand is VERY good on wifi since his strategy is more rushdown as opposed to spacing.

 

[Inferno3044]

Falco is just a giant pain. When I play Pierce's Falco it's one grab and it can completely screw me over. I constantly get CG'd to 40% or spiked which can lead to death if he footstools me. It's definitely a winnable MU but very annoying. Also Mario does very well against Falco off stage.

Mario is high tier... on wifi

Allied <3

Also random question: Any Mario main live near Richmond?

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

Mabye you guys are just playing bad Falcos...? Joking.

I'm sure he's easy ONCE YOU KNOW THE MATCHUP. However, there aren't any Falcos around here for me to LEARN THE MATCHUP.

 

[HeroMystic]

Falco is my personal worst match-up, but I've been getting better at it.

 

[Matt07]

That's just dirty, Matt. xD

Hey, so is going Falco vs Link! .

 

[fromundaman]

Mabye you guys are just playing bad Falcos...? Joking.

I'm sure he's easy ONCE YOU KNOW THE MATCHUP. However, there aren't any Falcos around here for me to LEARN THE MATCHUP.

Well, yeah... MW doesn't really have good Falcos.

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

We have good Falcos, except the thing is that they're not in Indiana generally.

 

[BoTastic!]

Ummmm, Arty and Shugo anyone? They're our best midwest falcos.

Falco is NOT easy.

If all he does is run away and laser camp and SideB and if he spotdodges your grabs a lot...he's really really ****ing gay to deal with.

Getting the first kill is indeed important since you want SOME way to force him to approach.

I really don't know how to beat my friend's Falco at all, and all he does in friendlies is camp for 8 minutes straight if given the opportunity. Caping lasers and throwing fireballs only does so much. You have to duck his lasers and powershield his SideB.

Pierce and I talked about this matchup...it is probably 6/4 Falco. It's definitely a worrisome matchup if your opponent is patient and good. It's harder than say...Snake.

Snake I don't think is easy enough to be a 55/45, but you can at least approach Snake and mix him up and set him up for consistent KOs. Percentwise he may appear more intimidating, but in practice, he is much less tedious to deal with than a really really campy Falco since he's more easily juggled and YOU KNOW when he wants to use a ground move.

How many of you have charged F-smashed Snake when he F-tilts? I guarantee you...it's the best feeling ever when it works, especially when you realize you just killed him at like 90%.

I'd rather face falco than snake. =/ at least we have a way to kill Falco much easier.

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

I actually prefer the Snake matchup.

 

[BoTastic!]

I don't see how. Snake's camping is much harder to deal with for mario, and killing him is much harder, while he kills you at like 100.

 

[Veggi]

Someone play Brawl or BlazBlue with me!

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

I don't see how. Snake's camping is much harder to deal with for mario, and killing him is much harder, while he kills you at like 100.

I don't have problems killing Snake, it's just a matter of racking more damage. Plus... his camping really isn't hard to get around, IMO.

 

[Matt07]

Nice sig Xero. Veggi, I'd play Brawl but I gotta head to class in a few. Snake's camping is really hard to get around for me. F-tilts galore, and he won't die till about 200%.

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

Caleb made it for me, and I can kill Snake at like 140-150 reliably, O_O (Just Usmash OoS >_>)

 

[fromundaman]

Ummmm, Arty and Shugo anyone? They're our best midwest falcos.

Oops, didn't realize Arty was MW, and I tend to forget Shugo since he doesn't attend many tournaments.

 

[KirinBlaze]

Hey, so is going Falco vs Link! .

I 2-0'd a Falco in that MU at SNES last summer.
That was pretty interesting.

 

[vato_break]

i've taken dehf to last game a couple times and beaten him once, honestly i dont think falco is that hard as long as you don't get CG early.

 

[Calebyte]

Guys, someone who knows the Falco matchup should write a summary about him in the Match Up Guide.

 

[KirinBlaze]

Pew pew camping is annoying. I play D1 sometimes when I'm in the Bronx and his Falco is so patient and annoying as ****. It's pretty tough. When I do get a win it's never close..always like both last stock at 150%+.

 

[$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$]

Nice sig Xero. Veggi, I'd play Brawl but I gotta head to class in a few. Snake's camping is really hard to get around for me. F-tilts galore, and he won't die till about 200%.

Snakes on wifi is kinda easy to **** w/ Mario, gawd I luv that matchup.

 

[KirinBlaze]

I feel really comfortable against Snake in general. He's probably my best Top Tier MU with Mario/Link.
I need to work more on Meta Knight and Falco though.

 

[Veggi]

MK is actually my easiest top tier matchup with Mario. I don't know why, it just feels like I avoid everything when I play against him.

 

[BoTastic!]

I still hate snake like 10x more than falco. Probably because I face arty soo much.

I gotta work on Diddy kong, snake, and metaknight really.

 

[$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$]

F**K, DIDDY, SERIOUSLY, lol @ me rage, but anyways, same here, except Snake. I'm startin to think I'm gettin weak at the Mario vs Falco MU since some falco players got better on the MU on "wi-fi"

 

[KirinBlaze]

Diddy is pretty easy. I love fighting Diddy.

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

MK is gay.

 

[Veggi]

MK is hilarious to me because I was making jokes at a smashfest I went to when an MK player money matched my Mario and I was doing silly things with FLUDD. Many were in agreement that Mario is better than Metaknight because Metaknight lacks a Super Soaker.