Mario Boards: General Discussion

[hippiedude92]

if he didn't have bad spotdodge habit esp on first stock he would do 2x better

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

I hate spotdodge habits, I can't get rid of mine........

 

[KirinBlaze]

http://allisbrawl.com/event.aspx?id=7979

Get at my WiFi skills.

Low Tier Tourney, btw.

 

[mars16]

Sounds interesting...

 

[vato_break]

spot dodging is badddd

 

[Famous]

^......So don't do it people

 

[mars16]

I use to be an over Dose Roller...

Untill I was told that its not good to do

Isn't Spot dodgeing better?

_____

 

[Famous]

yea, for mindgame purposes..But rarely use it...

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

I'm gonna break my spotdodge habit, then I will be a perfect entity.

 

[vato_break]

it only becomes a habit when the people you play with aren't punishing it...well if your a smart player you wouldn't continue to do it.

 

[hippiedude92]

learning to powershield consistently gets rid of the spotdodge habit.......

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

it only becomes a habit when the people you play with aren't punishing it...well if your a smart player you wouldn't continue to do it.

What was that 2nd bit, I must misunderstand you.

 

[vato_break]

like if you keep spot dodging and your getting punished for it there is no reason for you to countinue to spot dodge

 

[A2ZOMG]

Learn to use Ganon and Bowser, that will teach you to not spotdodge lol.

 

[Pierce7d]

Easiest way to break a spot-dodging habit is to take a break from the game. Since it's actually impractical and illogical, you'll forget it and won't deliberately relearn it as you immerse yourself back into the game and get reacquaint with successful patterns.

 

[GHNeko]

i used to spot dodge too much


now i dont spot dodge enough


help

:urg:

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

Easiest way to break a spot-dodging habit is to take a break from the game. Since it's actually impractical and illogical, you'll forget it and won't deliberately relearn it as you immerse yourself back into the game and get reacquaint with successful patterns.

I've taken multiple breaks from the game and the habit keeps coming back (although it disappears for a short while sometimes, but always ends up coming back.)

 

[Monk/Honkey/Banana]

Just have a Luigi player punish all your spot dodges at 50%...That's how I got my spot dodging under control

 

[BoTastic!]

I barely spot dodge at all.

 

[Famous]

Just have a Luigi player punish all your spot dodges at 50%...That's how I got my spot dodging under control

Lol, I play both sides of that coin...so I know

 

[A2ZOMG]

Easiest way to break a spot-dodging habit is to take a break from the game. Since it's actually impractical and illogical, you'll forget it and won't deliberately relearn it as you immerse yourself back into the game and get reacquaint with successful patterns.

Lol you and your amazing logic. It's hilariously correct.

I just noticed...I didn't play Smash at all during Spring Break, and yeah...I'm actually not spotdodging that much.

 

[BoTastic!]

7FO spotdodges like crazy, lol.

 

[A2ZOMG]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3LrC9Q5HhA

I hate Mario dittos lol.

 

[Matador]

Why would you spotdodge with OOS options like Mario's...?

It rarely ever gives you a significant frame advantage anyway. Powershielding is always a better response.

Best to just cut it out completely. If you're feeling pressured or expect a laggy attack, you have other options. Just tell yourself everytime you pull it off that it was a terrible move and you're a terrible person for doing it...and you'll fix it.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Spotdodging covers you if they grab and is sometimes a more consistent way of setting up grabs than shieldgrabbing or dashgrabbing out of shield. I am a fan of spotdodge -> grab, and I think that's the main reason to spotdodge in the first place.

However I am also a fan of charging F-smash. F-smashing Snake out of his F-tilt feels sooooooo good. =)

 

[mars16]

I Dislike Snake's F tilt... Its Broken For a tilt attack and for just being a standard Human

But I like doing that To

 

[Matador]

Spotdodging covers you if they grab and is sometimes a more consistent way of setting up grabs than shieldgrabbing or dashgrabbing out of shield. I am a fan of spotdodge -> grab, and I think that's the main reason to spotdodge in the first place.

If you can make it work for you, then go for it. If it isn't a habitual move, but rather purely based on spotdodge's merits in given situations, use it when applicable.

I just recommend against it in most situations.

It's a move that puts you on the defensive. You cannot do anything except retreat after a spotdodge if you're playing a good opponent. Worse than that, most good players prey on it.

D3s will wait for your spotdodge to land an easy grab, then wait again during their CG for you to frantically struggle to spotdodge out so that they can hit you with one of their more powerful attacks (dthrow -> dthrow -> dthrow -> DA/Dsmash/Dtilt offstage)

I can't TELL you how many times I've watched as Boss predicts a spotdodge in teams or otherwise and gets a 60% game changing KO because he has momentum. They're on the ropes and feel backed into a corner, so the spotdodge is coming...and once it does...free KO.

MK's broken *** doesn't even need to wait for it. If he feels like he's got you pressured, he can Fair -> Dtilt -> Dsmash without opening himself up for anything from Mario...if you spotdodge at any point during his advance, it's an easy dsmash.

Falcos wait for the spotdodge to get their CG low %.

Snake's wait for the spotdodge at high % for their Utilt.

The only time Marth is affected by a Mario spotdodging is when HIS spacing is off.

Then there's the threat that ANY character could charge a smash while they have momentum and you're on the defensive. If you buckle and decide to spotdodge for a lucky counter attack, it could cost you a stock.

Of course, it's just my opinion. It doesn't fit into my gameplay very much at all.

 

[KirinBlaze]

7FO spotdodges like crazy, lol.

That's that Z-AXIS.

 

[Big-Omar]

Spotdodging is a bad tactic in general. I only use it to dodge grabs.

I just need to sheild more...

 

[Calebyte]

I lurv Mario dittos.

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

Every time I go to Muncie I end up Mario dittoing Caleb for a few hours, they're always full of combos and stuff.

 

[Inferno3044]

Easiest way to break a spot-dodging habit is to take a break from the game. Since it's actually impractical and illogical, you'll forget it and won't deliberately relearn it as you immerse yourself back into the game and get reacquaint with successful patterns.

Quoted for truth. Also, I want my brawl disc back.

 

[Exceladon City]

Every time I go to Muncie I end up Mario dittoing Caleb for a few hours, they're always full of combos and stuff.

I find myself maining Mario outside of tournaments. Like the 2 characters I use are Mario and Luigi. Also, Mario vs Snake is mad fun.

 

[Juushichi]

I find myself maining Mario outside of tournaments. Like the 2 characters I use are Mario and Luigi. Also, Mario vs Snake is mad fun.

Quoted for truth. Also, I main Sheik outside of tournaments.

 

[Javix]

i main mario outside of tournaments, but i'm actually the best ike. i'm also the best mario.

 

[Calebyte]

^ Just what we need, another XeroXen!

 

[fromundaman]

i main mario outside of tournaments, but i'm actually the best ike. i'm also the best mario.

OBJECTION!

San, Meneil, M2K, Renegade, Bored, etc. prove the contradiction in the witness' statement!
(Yeah, I've been playing too much Pheonix Wright lately...)


EDIT: And yeah Excel, Mario vs Snake is a really fun MU. That and Mario vs DK.

 

[Matador]

I like the red...

 

[Monk/Honkey/Banana]

YEAH THEY MADE ME A MODDDD!!!!



Hey wait a minute....THEY MADE YOU ONE TOO MATADOR

 

[Javon89]

And me too!
EDIT: April foolery?