Data Mah0ne's Stuff about Puff

[crush]

I like justin bieber and i also like bananas

u shuld probably go to the peach boards then

 

[Wake]

u shuld probably go to the peach boards then

Eww no. We don't like Justin Beiber... for the most part. McCain might disagree with that one.

 

[Bieber]

I'm too scared to venture far outside the puff boards. Nah Foxlisk, my name's bieber because I look like him, and the VU **** so that's my avatar

 

[crush]

Eww no. We don't like Justin Beiber... for the most part. McCain might disagree with that one.

Im one of the best peach mains and i like JB

 

[Republican0fHeaven]

Bought his holiday CD this year around Christmas.

It was phenomenal... as I expected.

ive been doing this since like 2007 bro

impressive. But, a pimpin good time nonetheless.

 

[FoxLisk]

Nah Foxlisk, my name's bieber because I look like him, and the VU **** so that's my avatar

omg if i were a girl i would jump your bones so hard

 

[MacD]

WHO BE HATIN ON MY BOY J BIEBS?????

also i hope you start posting more crush, soooooooo gooooooooooooood

 

[crush]

WHO BE HATIN ON MY BOY J BIEBS?????

also i hope you start posting more crush, soooooooo gooooooooooooood

lololol do u ****ing namesearch justin bieber

 

[BairJew]

Lovin' KirbyKaze's avatar. Having problems restin' lil' ole sheik and i'm super bad at that mu literally get hit by everything. Mainly dthrow->fair/uair/bair/upb/taunt/dwnb/etc. I've heard from a little birdie that sheik is mad easy to rest and combo but it seems i'm in need of a tad bit of help.

 

[KrIsP!]

People say crouch alot. That seems to work, cause you can rest their dash attack/grab if you do and they seem pretty easy to edge guard cause you can just give 'em one good bair off stage and grab the ledge. If they succesfully make it back you can jump up and rest them, if not...they're dead cause they can't grab the ledge.

 

[MacD]

lololol do u ****ing namesearch justin bieber

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL OMG THAT IS SUCH A GOOD IDEA

i'm going to have to try that after work

 

[KrIsP!]

I guess I'll have to ask on skype later but since the OP needs to be updated a bit..what should I counter pick against Peach if DL is banned? She's floaty so I feel FoD would give her an advantage as much as it would for me so I might as well go BF since she'll kill me off the sides more often than the top. Also should I ban PS or YS? I feel like PS helps no one so YS is the answer cause I'd still die quickly from an f-smash or something.

 

[MacD]

FD and PS both good for puff

puff has an easier time killing up and peach needs platforms to get around on puff

if anything dreamland is better for the person with the better DI. if both are even, i'd say peach has the advantage since she has the projectile and kills earlier than puff normally, and space is nice for peach

it's also kinda personal preference, do you like the small stages vs peach? i'm assuming puff would like things like yoshi's more, less space = more pressure from puff. also WoP OP and you can die at like 20 if you get caught in that BS on yoshi's.

i personally just hate BF with a passion so i can never really say much about that stage

 

[idea]

yeah i would want to pick yoshi's, peach is the one who will randomly die early from an fsmash

by the way, intentionally trading fsmash with peach's aerials is good.

 

[KrIsP!]

hmmm...good talk. Thanks guys.

 

[crush]

omg i hav the same birthday as justin bieber! !

..im just 4 years youngerr n_n

 

[Wake]

You're probably lying though.

 

[crush]

NaBrO im born on march 1st and it says he is too ! !

bieberthis means we must be doubles partners ssomeday

 

[Bieber]

lesdoit. team name: bieber fever. team tags: baby and flow. team color: purple. team chars: marth and marth

 

[MacD]

so crush, after you gave me that idea, i'm really tempted to now end up in random threads after they post about bieber, hopefully to end all the hate!!!

seems like it'd be soooooo hilarious

 

[KrIsP!]

Might as well add peach MU advice here...>.>

But hey, we love the peach players round here. they're so floaty and pink.
edit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7unHgT6PmSc&feature=relmfu#t=1m8s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfLYmVaj1Tk#t=42s

LOL.

Someone able to break that down for me? ASDI down is what strong and said or someone...is tat really it. Not that special unless you live in a land of zelda players.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Lovin' KirbyKaze's avatar. Having problems restin' lil' ole sheik and i'm super bad at that mu literally get hit by everything. Mainly dthrow->fair/uair/bair/upb/taunt/dwnb/etc. I've heard from a little birdie that sheik is mad easy to rest and combo but it seems i'm in need of a tad bit of help.

Grab is countered by crouch and then you get to f-smash or rest her.

 

[BairJew]

Okay awesome, I'll test that into what I'm doing.

 

[idea]

some other good ones...to edgeguard her, grab the edge, force her to up-b onstage, then rest her. anytime you can land uptilt, rest after that. also dthrow her in the middle of a stage with platforms at low percent and you can usually rest her no matter what she does, if you're fast enough. either follow her on the platform and rest, or if she DIs to go above your head, jump up there and do it.

also you should crouch as a reaction to what she does, not just hold crouch and hope it works out, y'know? that just gives her time to position herself and throw needles at you. crouch when you think she might be coming in to grab you, or to crouch cancel her ftilt, stuff like that.



as for that thing with zelda...yeah, that's really it lol. you literally hold down then press B once it pulls you in.

 

[GrazzaB]

Question about playing against falcon. I played against this one guy at my school and he just ***** with knees to the face and 2/3 stocked me.

So I just wondering what the best way to DI on his d-throws was, because I tried a bunch but couldnt find something that would keep me safe most of the time. Also, should I stay on the ground more and just WD around until he opens something up, because I felt like everytime I jumped I got kneed. Thanks

 

[crush]

lesdoit. team name: bieber fever. team tags: baby and flow. team color: purple. team chars: marth and marth

aight if were at the same tronament imma track you down and force you to be my partner

 

[_eternal]

Is it possible to sweet spot with a dj? She seems to puff her hurtbox pretty high compared to her ledgegrab range. Also, does sing help at all here, or is that only used to stall with invincibility like Fox's upB?

Question about playing against falcon. I played against this one guy at my school and he just ***** with knees to the face and 2/3 stocked me.

So I just wondering what the best way to DI on his d-throws was, because I tried a bunch but couldnt find something that would keep me safe most of the time. Also, should I stay on the ground more and just WD around until he opens something up, because I felt like everytime I jumped I got kneed. Thanks

That's how I feel when I go Marth vs Falcon lol. I think dthrow -> knee is usually guaranteed so I dunno. It's probably best to not get grabbed (you can crouch his grab). The others can give better advice though.

 

[idea]

Question about playing against falcon. I played against this one guy at my school and he just ***** with knees to the face and 2/3 stocked me.

So I just wondering what the best way to DI on his d-throws was, because I tried a bunch but couldnt find something that would keep me safe most of the time. Also, should I stay on the ground more and just WD around until he opens something up, because I felt like everytime I jumped I got kneed. Thanks

1. don't get grabbed. falcon cannot grab you AT ALL if you are crouching. his dthrow combos into stuff on jigglypuff so getting hit after a throw is mostly not your fault. (just DI whichever way you think they aren't expecting)
2. yeah, you already figured it out, stay on the ground more than normal. falcon wants you to be floating up high so he can hurl himself through the air and backflip at you and such. short hop bair to float back isn't that bad, because that doesn't put you so high up.

Is it possible to sweet spot with a dj? She seems to puff her hurtbox pretty high compared to her ledgegrab range. Also, does sing help at all here, or is that only used to stall with invincibility like Fox's upB?

That's how I feel when I go Marth vs Falcon lol. I think dthrow -> knee is usually guaranteed so I dunno. It's probably best to not get grabbed (you can crouch his grab). The others can give better advice though.

i don't have any frame data or anything, but sing edgehog definitely feels like it sweetspots better. if you jump from below the edge and rise while singing it tends to leave you less vulnerable than only jumping. but be careful 'cause if they grab the edge really fast you'll just fall to your death.

the biggest difference between jiggs vs. marth and jiggs vs. falcon is that vs. marth you should shield a lot and vs. falcon you should shield almost never. the other biggest difference is that you can and often should approach falcon (carefully).

jiggs refreshes her invincibility too slowly, you shouldn't do it very often, they'll eventually just walk up and dsmash you or something.

 

[_eternal]

Cool. Also, does drill -> grab ever combo or is it just to beat whatever they try to do after hitstun (other than buffer spot dodge or shine I guess)?

 

[idea]

yeah it combos. it's just awkward to l-cancel the dair.

i mean, i'm pretty sure it combos, in all cases. i'd want to test it vs. a fox who is mashing shine the whole time to be sure. in any case if you see them flip over a bit from the last hit you're definitely safe.

 

[Krynxe]

If the dair flip them, and you L-cancel it, dair combos into many things including rest and grab.

 

[_eternal]

Do you have to walk forward/jump to land the rest or does it catch them in the middle of the flip or something?

 

[Mahone]

they flip onto u, i don't think u have time to jump into their flip, but i could be wrong

 

[knightpraetor]

cool. what characters flip most is what i want to ask..then i realize that getting this with my secondary jiggs is a far lower concern than learning general aerial use and spacing, so i guess it doesn't matter..

but it's still cool

 

[Rockenos]

cool. what characters flip most is what i want to ask..then i realize that getting this with my secondary jiggs is a far lower concern than learning general aerial use and spacing, so i guess it doesn't matter..

but it's still cool

Yeah, does anyone know what determines flipping and which characters flip more?
All I really know about the dair is that it ***** falcon with hitstun.
Sometimes I just jump over my opponents and spam it like 4 times just because most people don't know what to do at first and I stop doing it before they learn, lol

 

[FoxLisk]

All characters flip iirc. In general they flip if you land the dair right at their ankles. The spacing differs a little between characters.

They all flip onto you but some characters flip weirdly and you actually have to wait a bit for their hurtbox to land on you.

There's videos and threads going over all this that I would link if I weren't on my phone.

 

[BairJew]

That would be interesting to view those videos/threads.

 

[crush]

That would be interesting to view those videos/threads.

<3333 bairjew wats happning bayb

also yall jigglypuffs should side b more

-cruush

 

[BairJew]

<3333 bairjew wats happning bayb

also yall jigglypuffs should side b more

-cruush

Crushhhh!!! <3 miss your amazing sexiness!

It would be cool to use side b to pop someone's shield and charge up a rollout as a punish.

 

[Avalancer]

How do fastfall-char mainers DI out of a Uthrow -> Rest? I've seen a lot of people beat my friend by slightly DI'ing after his Uthrow, but i've understood how.