@ Chuckie: Mega-bussing is pretty much what it sounds like. Constantly pressuring your scummate, pretty pretty avidly on the lynch, not really wavering a whole lot about it. Having a strong track record of early lynch desire, etc.
The most hardcore bussing of all time is pretty much putting your scum mate in your cross hairs right off the bat, being the starter of your scum mates wagon (or at least one of the major initial proprietors) and being the number one driving force behind the strength and longevity of the wagon.
Omni was doing the latter with Chibo. I am NOT trying to say that it is completely out of the question for a mentor to do that to his mentee to buy some serious credit. However, it is a very gambity move and I simply find it to be a less likely possibility than bussing of a lesser nature, that a mentor might try to pull if he thought there was hope for the chibo wagon to subside or fade slightly and give another wagon some life. Reason being is that bus credit tends to help more later in the game instead of straight off the bat since players have less time before endgame to really consider how likley a bus was and keep and eye on potential busser's playstyles etc.
But yeah like I still can't settle on a read for Omni yet and I am not trying to suggest that anyone clear him for being on Chibo so hardcore or anything of the sort. I just think that he isn't anywhere near the best play for today and there are plenty of other players that need more consideration pressure.
Omni has given us results and granted he could have bussed or he could be scum that got lucky and hit indy, but Omni's loudness make him easy to cross examine every step of the way whereas a lot of the other players in here that are just kind of background noise don't afford us that luxury and need to be examined and pressured NOW.
@ Sue: fukkin lol'd. Ok so I'm scummy for my target list containing weaker players and people that a flipped anti-town called town?
Did I miss the memo or did suddenly playing ****ty and being a non-presence become a town tell? Did it also become a town tell to be called town by anti-town players? This just isn't intuitive for me so you'll have to forgive me if I don't follow. I just have this nagging suspicion it doesn't make any sense.
Oh wait that's because it doesn't make any sense. At all.
Also lol @ textbook use of "omg someone commented on the NK textbook scum tell!!!!111!!1!11!!!" even though I pretty thoroughly explained WHY I raged. If you think my reasoning is problematic I'd love to hear it. I wasn't doing anything like "OMG GHEB IS DEAD THATS SO LAME WHO WOULD DO THAT OMG" which is pretty much what you're trying to make it out to be.
@ Omis:
Response 1: See above reply to Chuckie
2: "I wanted to see his opinion on it so I could better formulate mine on his." Wat? This is a terrible sentence. Please explain. Also, asking him a question like do you prefer NL over your own lynch is just dumb because had that conversation been drawn out it would have given you lots of opportunity to criticize his answers and just pile on more dirt when that question in particular really has nothing to do with why chibo was found scummy to begin with. I also really don't see what you could possibly take out of that question to confirm for you whether or not chibo was scummy. Like seriously you need to explain how that question served any constructive purpose.
3: How far from the deadline were we when you hammered? I honestly don't know and would like to if you recall.
4: That's the thing though, is that the mentee wants to avoid drawing attention to the mentor. An easy way to do that is to interact with a lot of other people but NOT the mentor, unless the mentos decides to bus. That's what I can see with you and Chibo, chibo being a good mentee deliberately avoiding causing there to be any reason for there to be a connection between you two, and then only at the end, when he's about to be lynched, do you jump in to get anti-chibo credit. It's a standard bus strat IMO.
The most hardcore bussing of all time is pretty much putting your scum mate in your cross hairs right off the bat, being the starter of your scum mates wagon (or at least one of the major initial proprietors) and being the number one driving force behind the strength and longevity of the wagon.
Omni was doing the latter with Chibo. I am NOT trying to say that it is completely out of the question for a mentor to do that to his mentee to buy some serious credit. However, it is a very gambity move and I simply find it to be a less likely possibility than bussing of a lesser nature, that a mentor might try to pull if he thought there was hope for the chibo wagon to subside or fade slightly and give another wagon some life. Reason being is that bus credit tends to help more later in the game instead of straight off the bat since players have less time before endgame to really consider how likley a bus was and keep and eye on potential busser's playstyles etc.
But yeah like I still can't settle on a read for Omni yet and I am not trying to suggest that anyone clear him for being on Chibo so hardcore or anything of the sort. I just think that he isn't anywhere near the best play for today and there are plenty of other players that need more consideration pressure.
Omni has given us results and granted he could have bussed or he could be scum that got lucky and hit indy, but Omni's loudness make him easy to cross examine every step of the way whereas a lot of the other players in here that are just kind of background noise don't afford us that luxury and need to be examined and pressured NOW.
@ Sue: fukkin lol'd. Ok so I'm scummy for my target list containing weaker players and people that a flipped anti-town called town?
Did I miss the memo or did suddenly playing ****ty and being a non-presence become a town tell? Did it also become a town tell to be called town by anti-town players? This just isn't intuitive for me so you'll have to forgive me if I don't follow. I just have this nagging suspicion it doesn't make any sense.
Oh wait that's because it doesn't make any sense. At all.
Also lol @ textbook use of "omg someone commented on the NK textbook scum tell!!!!111!!1!11!!!" even though I pretty thoroughly explained WHY I raged. If you think my reasoning is problematic I'd love to hear it. I wasn't doing anything like "OMG GHEB IS DEAD THATS SO LAME WHO WOULD DO THAT OMG" which is pretty much what you're trying to make it out to be.
@ Omis:
Response 1: See above reply to Chuckie
2: "I wanted to see his opinion on it so I could better formulate mine on his." Wat? This is a terrible sentence. Please explain. Also, asking him a question like do you prefer NL over your own lynch is just dumb because had that conversation been drawn out it would have given you lots of opportunity to criticize his answers and just pile on more dirt when that question in particular really has nothing to do with why chibo was found scummy to begin with. I also really don't see what you could possibly take out of that question to confirm for you whether or not chibo was scummy. Like seriously you need to explain how that question served any constructive purpose.
3: How far from the deadline were we when you hammered? I honestly don't know and would like to if you recall.
4: That's the thing though, is that the mentee wants to avoid drawing attention to the mentor. An easy way to do that is to interact with a lot of other people but NOT the mentor, unless the mentos decides to bus. That's what I can see with you and Chibo, chibo being a good mentee deliberately avoiding causing there to be any reason for there to be a connection between you two, and then only at the end, when he's about to be lynched, do you jump in to get anti-chibo credit. It's a standard bus strat IMO.
. Or has the same kinds of tells.
