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That doesn't sound right. He's getting hitstun properties, knockback values, and even some data/properties that we haven't appropriately assigned to in-game phenomenon. He's getting raw data from the game itself somehow, and it probably has to do with some form of 3DS/Wii U manipulation.
What do you mean by, "Auto-cancels"? They both always could auto-cancel, and both from a SH.
Up air auto cancels
Fair auto cancel
Dair less landing lag
Bair less landing lag
Nair less landing lag
Uair and fair always autocanceled and don't appear different to me. The landing lag values seem the same as well.
Up air auto cancels
Fair auto cancel
Dair less landing lag
Bair less landing lag
Nair less landing lag
The landing lag is really damn fast. It's really noticeable by really anyone, but I had a Wii Fit main try it out just to make sure.
oh really? Might just be placebo then. It wasn't even me who found it, I just decided to post that here. The other users don't go here much anymore ( @Backgammon @Nielicus )
Ftilt never whiffed point blank. It whiffs if the opponent is walking into DK, which it still does.
Correct. I'm super busy now and I'm not sure if ill be able to get to this. Sadface.
If you have any information you can send me that could help me start this project, I would like to take up the torch here. I'm not savvy now, but thorough research is my thing. Reference documents, programs, equipment, etc. Point me somewhere, and I'll do my best to continue your work.
I'm doing it on my 3DS right now. If you have WFT stand next to DK his ftilt will hit. That didn't work in the previous version. It's possible that the hitbox size hasn't been increased to the full extent but it can hit opponents where it previously failed to.
It is working in the previous version for me right now. No change.I'm doing it on my 3DS right now. If you have WFT stand next to DK his ftilt will hit. That didn't work in the previous version. It's possible that the hitbox size hasn't been increased to the full extent but it can hit opponents where it previously failed to.
Obviously hitboxes are some of the more difficult things to exactly test, but we've had a number of people comment on various moves here and there seeming to hit better. Maybe put in the first post "Multiple hitbox fixes, Fair and Jab 3 being the most noticeable/important"? I don't think we can get the full extent without a data dump.
For those that don't understand what this means, in simpler terms, is this a nerf to those characters or not? and what is changed exactly?
I think it confirms What you are saying
LucinaWhy? With the exception of like 2 moves he's extremely laggy. Laggy characters never fare particularly well in smash bros.@S_B Ike's been great since 1.04 imo, he's definitely not slow since he has aerials that can punish Sonic's spin dash of all things and his combo game was/is great. I just wish he was actually used in tournaments more.
Honestly if Ike is a rarely seen character in this patch even after unnecessary buffs I will be the most confused man alive.
It's because it was a training mode combo. Those never, ever actually work.
It's an engine change. Whether you think it's a substantial nerf or a "huh, that's different" depends on the character and the opinions of individual players that play that character. I'd say the biggest technique we got out of it before the patch was the ability to run to the end of a platform or to a ledge and perform a certain side special attack in order to fall off the ledge lightly rather than run off. The Side B in question would get cancelled as the character falls, and at the ledge, they would grab it. Bowser, Ness, Samus, and Mii Gunner could perform this, allowing for a slower-but-easier to perform ledge trump method. Other than that, it wasn't a core technique to their gameplay. But again, that's just my opinion.
Indeed, I performed the same test, but continued until the Ftilt did 10% damage one more time, and it did on the 14th strike (142 to 152%). 142 divided by 13 is a number I rounded to 10.92. I don't think Lucina mains care that the actual buff is 0.95% damage instead of 1.00, but I did want it clarified that it isn't 1.00.I think it confirms What you are saying
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G5gFpvVfKRw
Sorry for The terrible quality.
The training Mode registred 10% damage in every Ftilt I did. But in The end D. Pit's percent was 109% (I did 10 Ftilts):
With básic math (109*10/100)
- F-tilt: 9,9% -> 10,9% (+1% more damage)
The important is that we have visual confirmation.
Thinking on getting her as Pocket instead of luigi, too floaty and I dont like his playstyle, Also quitting Diddy Kong. It will be mains: & Pockets: & (or).
Link got some changes which I checked up on.Oh, And Link's Up Smash appears to have less whiffs now.
D-Tilt 12% > 11%
D-Throw 7% > 6%
D-Throw's trajectory has been changed. It now pops the opponent above Link instead of behind him.
Also
D-Tilt 12% > 11%
D-Throw 7% > 6%
D-Throw's trajectory has been changed. It now pops the opponent above Link instead of behind him.
I don't want to be rude to him, but I'm pretty sure he's the only person I've ever talked to who has felt that Ike was okay in 1.0.7 and prior.
Also, if Aether hits the angle of a stage the wrong way from underneath, it can actually push Ike AWAY from the ledge of the stage, causing him to miss the ledge entirely.
Not sure about Link's killing earlier, but it definitely has less whiffs now. I think it draws the opponent in now too. But I hear that the final hit does more knock back depending on where the opponent is. Seems to be a good anti-air move now.
I tested these side by side and do not see a difference in any of these moves. And I simply don't know what you're talking about regarding Cape and a new falling animation off the ledge.
