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Upsmash is terrible for kill purposes. I had to say it =\ Uair works but honestly where do you find most, if not all of your kills from? Uair is not considered as a main killmove in Lucario's arsenal. He simply lacks vertical killpower when compared to Snake, Fox, Wario, Olimar, Zelda, etc. Putting him on a stage where he benefits little with the low ceiling as far as killing is concerned, and disadvantaged even further by his poor vertical resistance, and you have an unhappy Lucario.Lucario is great at killing vertically. Upsmash and up air will both KO just fine if your % is reasonable.
Besides this, the level has extremely small edge boundaries, the roof isn't the only way to kill easy.
It's been said, Samus isn't that great of a spam camper. BF is probably one of her best neutral stages though. She can combo you very well here.Samuelson said:I use Samus occasionally and i hate using her on Battlefield because it is hard for me to spam projectiles. Hopefully this helps a little bit
Lucario with anything less than 100% is one of the worst vertical KOers in the game.Lucario is great at killing vertically. Upsmash and up air will both KO just fine if your % is reasonable.
Besides this, the level has extremely small edge boundaries, the roof isn't the only way to kill easy.
All I can say about this is wow. I mean, Battlefield is Samus' best friend. Perhaps you rely a bit too much on projectiles. Try out some f-air, u-air, z-air.I use Samus occasionally and i hate using her on Battlefield because it is hard for me to spam projectiles. Hopefully this helps a little bit
Fixed.Lucario with anything less than 100% is one of the worst KOers in the game.
Not quite. It just minimizes it. For example, if you fought Falco on Battlefield, he wouldn't be standing in one spot, spamming his Blaster away. He'd likely jump to fire his Blaster, but it wouldn't be in a consecutive manner, since he would land on the ground and then jump again to perform it all over. Or, he could just jump on a platform of the same height, but that wouldn't mean that his opponent would stay on the platform.I would think any stage with a lot of platforms would be good for Lucario, since it stops the spam, at least the missle spam. I don't know anything about Samus' playstyle, but that's just what I would think.
The only time she could do it is right after she got a kill on you otherwise you could punish her pretty much wherever you were. MAYBE if she knocked you off the stage and then did it but why not try to edge guard you and kill you then change instead of switching...?Can Samus still Super Wave dash or do the grapple extension thing?
Also, how likely is it that Samus will try to switch into ZSS in the middle of a match?
You can't infinitely juggle Snake, even off of wifi.Not all of Snakes weaknesses are apparent on wifi. Are you familiar with the most popular way to juggle snake without fail using Arua sphere? Its a tactic which involves abusing Snake's landing lag, and the timing might be too hard to do the juggle with lag.
ZSS is quick and her tilts are amazing. She can combo well and is extremely good in the air. I personally don't like her smashes except for her Dsmash. Bair and Uair are good killing moves. She uses her Up B in the air to do really strange combos so if she is below you try and air dodge so you don't get pulled down then kicked back up. ZSS mains love their Side B (including me), it is a very good kill move but kind of predictable. Her grab range is great but if she misses it is very punishable. I never see any ZSS use Nair or Dair, Dair has too much landing lag and im not sure what is wrong with Nair. She is the 4th fastest character in the game (tied with Sheik). Her armor at the start of game will mess you up if you're not careful, ive killed my friends within 30 seconds before. Her Down B is very powerful so watch out for that when trying to gimp her recovery. If you are edgehogging she can pull you down to death with her Up B, of course she will die also but it feels so good to take someone down with you. A lot of her combo game uses her paralyzing attacks.
Here is a good video showing off what ZSS can do
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_FLq2Kl4jH0
Rainbow Cruse for a counter stage in Lucario's favor.
Theres to much movement and terrain for Samus to effectively pull off some ranged combat.
and the longest time for her to pull it off, would be during the ship part.
Secondly she jumps slow, so gimping is always a possibility. But if you try to frequently, expect some Up-b to get you.
This will remain a very movement/aerial battle. So skills mean nothing when the platform you where going to vanishes.
So try to remain on solid ground, and keep samus jumping around. And only Extreme speed when you know the ground your going to is new.
And near the peak of the "ride" before you get back on the boat. That little part has a very low ceiling. This is where you want to keep from being thrown or hit into the air. A dash or Uthrow at a medium % will kill Lucario. But the same goes for samus.
This part is danger prime.
-t2