~Lucario Match-Up Chart/Discussion- Rotation Eighteen: Olimar~

[The Halloween Captain]

The Olimar and Lucario discussions widely vary on our matchup. Not only that, but there are no vids of Double teams easily available for either side to present, which gives me the impression that large parts of this matchup are being decided on paper rather than practice. The two boards need to actually learn how to fight eachother's characters before accurate information can be posted here.

 

[Timbers]

Saying whether DT is viable or not is NOT on paper. DT is frowned on because every other match is bad to use it, I'm not sure why DT against a character with such low lag on his moves would suddenly be a good reason to use DT.

I use to use DT in this match, and the Olimars started wisening up quickly and alwaysthrew up their shield whenever I'd DT, so I stopped using it

 

[DuskMarthWater]

DT is good for match-ups like D3, Snake, DK, etc. Heavy characters. MAYBE(big maybe) against MK, depending on the situation, because he moves around so fast that he may or may not have time to land on the ground and keep his shield on to block it. But against Olimar? Mmmm...I wouldn't say it's even good for approaching, because his grab range is so long. It won't do you any good to reverse DT into his grab range. Don't use it against him, it's not advised.

 

[Jeepy Sol]

Due to a complete lack of time, Kita will now be running the match-up discussions. It's been fun, guys! ;D

Maybe I'll stop by when you guys start discussing Wario. : )

 

[Timbers]

How is this going to work.

Kita writes up the summary and then has you add them to the front page?

 

[Jeepy Sol]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=205287

 

[Kitamerby]

Once the Olimar discussion is over, I'll make the new thread for the export and the discussion will start on the next character.

 

[G-Beast]

stay away from purple pikmin, they are killer.
his recovery is easy to gimp being tether and all, but it does have a hit box.. dont cliffhog too early!

moar coming soon

 

[Browny]

Awesome i cant wait!

Ive heard something about olimar being able to jump, can you confirm/deny this for me G-beast?

 

[Sigrid Fiinikkusu]

Awesome i cant wait!

Ive heard something about olimar being able to jump, can you confirm/deny this for me G-beast?

I detect sarcasm lol. I've seriously never been up against a good Olimar player though. The most experience I have would be fighting cpu's. Yeah not much input from me here...

 

[tedward2000]

I'll have a review done sometime Kita/jeeps.

However this thread has dwindled down to a low roar.
So that might be for a bit.

sigh...
-t2

 

[TK Wolf]

I'd like to contribute, but I don't have enough lolimar experience.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

I can bring an olimar for you guys to play lol if he is willing. he hates my lucario though lol.

 

[tedward2000]

I can bring an olimar for you guys to play lol if he is willing. he hates my lucario though lol.

You make is sound like a sacrifice.
XD
-t2

 

[Stealth Raptor]

lol. he would do it just to figure out how to beat mine. but if anyone is interested ill pull him here.

 

[phi1ny3]

The Lolimar I know hates Brawl with unrivaled passion, lol.

 

[dguy6789]

Alright guys, stop posting in this thread, it's finished. The thread's operator has changed hands to Kitamerby. Post in that thread. This one will be unstickied and that one will be stickied eventually.

 

[LordoftheMorning]

Freaking Olimar. My 3rd least favorite matchup (aside from ICs and Pit).....

Luigi's Mansion = DO NOT WANT! I have a friend who mains him and a match with Olimar in that **** house gets really gay really fast. There's a really nasty throw>up-b combo he can do and the projectile-blocking pillars do more for him than for you. He will grab you through them. Basically an Olimar can go grab-happy, up-b aerial approaches, and Dsmash anything that even looks like a roll.

Frigate is probably the best way to go. I believe that the platform structure is more advantageous to Lucario because of his Utilt and Fair, and the wicked no edged side will make him sad.

I wouldn't suggest Final Destination either because he can outcamp your face.
Battlefield might be good if Lucario has adequate superiority in the air.

Against Olimar, good advice would be to end the match before it begins. Rack up some damage, then use your F/Bthrow over ledges and jump out to edgegaurd/gimp.

One of the biggest problems about Olimar is that, similar to sonic (only worse) his moves all look the same. It's difficult to know when he will try to grab/throw pikmin/smash/some other madness. Learn the differences in appearance between his moves as best you can. That will help you from getting mindgamed or whatever.

 

[phi1ny3]

I wonder if spacing an Extreme Awesome on Weegee's Mansion, then following with utilt/jab/etc. would be a good approach option against Olimar, lol.

 

[LordoftheMorning]

Oooh I got one! What if we tried Extremehog > Ledge attack versus an opponent on the ground? I am so gonna try this next match I'm in. Sounds way to sexy.

 

[G-Beast]

here's why Lucario has a 100-0 advantage vs pit, his ballz havent dropped yet. Lucario's have. GG pit

 

[Admiral Pit]

While ignoring the trollish comment above, Pit is better than one thinks, and I shall come with some data based on Aura Sphere and Pit's reflectors. You might learn a little something outta it.

I personally see this as 50-50 for some reason, for Lucario has great range and power as his damage increases, and is quite heavy, but Pit can fight back with Arrow gimps and Edgehogging, as well as having an exceptional Ledgecamp game.

EDIT: I got confused on things and found the thread currently discussing Pit. My apologies. Continue with the Olimar discussion.

 

[Kitamerby]

This thread is dead. Stop posting here plz.

 

[Timbers]

oh my god i posted in the wrong thread rofl

NOBODY POST HERE, I SWARE TO GOD I WILL MURDER YOU.

 

[The_Bear735]

You all sicken me for letting this thread die. :|

 

[Aurasmash14]

get em timbers! and this thread died a long time ago and you only complain now?!

 

[iRJi]

Someone lock this thread please, People keep posting in it. >_>