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When I say technical, I mean knowing which moves have the proper trajectories to combo into other moves at what percent and where to position himself. There's a lot of information like that to memorize with Marth, hence why I call him technical. An important distinction, however, is that he's only necessarily technical at the top level, whereas lower level Marths will pay less attention to detail.
I still think he'd be above DDD
I think Jax was kidding. If he wasn't...then that'd be a problem.
Fino got 50% of it. An Fsmash guard keeps Sonic from dashing in and ruining Oli's day; it's pretty much impossible for Sonic to approach you from the ground if you have an Fsmash out. He can PS this and followup, however, so be careful; if he starts to do this, grabbing is good option
40% is Nair and Utilt, at least that's how I've done it. Nair/Utilt clashes with both his aerials and his specials, so it can counter nearly everything as long as you don't mistime it. The other 10% is the rest of Oli's moveset, especially with yellow pikmin - yellow Usmash, yellow Fair, and yellow Uair usually work quite well for me. Also, you want to throw very few pikmin in this mu; if you do it more than one pikmin at a time you're making yourself vulnerable to Sonic's amazing punishing skills. A general rule is don't jump unless you have a VERY good reason to.Sorry, forgot grab ;o
BUT your Dtilt clanks with it. Use that how you will, but don't rely on it too often or the Sonic might just bait it and cancel it into a jump
Throw pikmin, consciously maneuver to avoid projectiles.
You know, if someone has an answer to this I'd love to hear it too. Projectiles are not the issue for me - it's that **** Zair
If you watch how TL uses zair the first few times you're hit with it, it's likely they're going to be using it almost the exact same way for the rest of the set. This applying to J3rm, Hyr0, J@sh, MJG.
DDD can't actually cg Olimar, though he can tech chase to an extent. In most occasions, teching back up in place is a bad idea, as it allows him to grab you again for free. Teching towards him is also usually a bad idea, as if he reads it then you're going to get punished for it. Teching away will usually be the best option. also, if he grabs you close to a ledge, he's going to Dthrow you and start charging a Dsmash - if you tech in place or tech towards him, you WILL get hit with it. Sometimes you can't even tech away from it because there isn't enough room :/ It's called the Buuman Trap, and it's hurts a lot. The More You Know!
Buffer dthrow + nana dash grab > this idea
You can tech SDI? I swear I asked this very question and got a negative response
No, you cannot tech DI, but you can DI into something to tech it.
Well that's what I meant. This is very good to know. So even if my trajectory is straight up, I could hypothetically SDI to the ground and tech?
No, you cannot tech DI, but you can DI into something to tech it.
You have to be in the air to SDI into the ground - otherwise you can't tech. Worse case scenario you hard-land onto the ground and buffer a move to get the **** away, lol.
Oh yea, that's what it was! I was asking if hypothetically a person could get hit while standing, SDI up, then SDI back down to tech the stage. This makes sense
As physically impossible as it would be to do that, even going frame by frame the game will not let you.
