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Link's dtilt does not cause enough hitstun to keep them in shield and it has to much lag and they CAN wd to grab or fair nair because it takes link about 23 frames to put it back away after he hits which is more than enough time for someone to get out of stun and hit you. the dsmash comes out in 9 frames but takes longer to put away so we agree they are both laggy so why would you consider either for shield pressure?theres no way the lag time in link's d-tilt can have an opening for and waveslide attack unless u simply sit there and do nothing with it. the d-tilt have less lag time then his dsmash and just about any shffl can interrupt link aftr his 2nd jab, but i do understand how much lag time there is in it and i wuldnt recommend doin every time. if ur opponent can anticipate it, then u need to switch up ur shield pressure techniques. jus cuz link' hookshot is his best recovery, u wuldnt do it every time cuz then its easy to guard. i didnt even throw in the fact that u can grab, i was jus using one sequence of attacks to shield pressure. i still think dtilt is effective if not spammed, but thanks stos for clearing up the lag time for others
Agreed but when you say a grab would be better if you are trying to get a tech in place grab has to be done on guessing not reaction so in this case grab is not better because if you miss you will surely be punished. links dsmash is good but has anyone landed a dsmash dair? every time i try to set it up they go diagonal up and away i can't get um are people DIing towards you in order to go straight up? dtilt seems to be the same way about this. On the contrary the bow is his best move in which it works as a mindgame just show it to them and they become instantly terrified.I'll come out and say it.
The dtilt is probably Link's worst move. Its only practical use is as an edgeguard on sloped stages since it follows how the stage bends. Any time you'd hit with a dtilt a grab would work better. Dtilt has way too much startup and too small of a hitbox. Dsmash is superior in almost every way (it just trades startup lag for ending lag and gains a sweetspot).
The arrow might actually be more useful than the dtilt, and the arrow is pretty horrible.
fyi the good players of michigan areOk, so I decided that I'm sick of hearing people dog Link and say thats he's unworthy of being a main because he is too easily comboed and has terrible matchup against characters like sheik, falcon, fox ect. So I think we need to start compiling some of the best known smashers in each state and begin testing out our Links against these players. I've seen videos of HDL beating SS, Germ beating DSF and Skler beating Sliq. Therefore anything is possible and people dont understand the amount of time and patience it take to main Link
As such, some of the top players (that I know or heard of) in MI are Dope(falco), Shaeden(falco), Scotu(fox), Ankoku(peach), Anther(#1pika), Lain, Juggleguy(falcon), Mikey Lenetia(peach), Duck(falco) and Moose(samus). There are probably quite a few more who I dont know of, but until then, these are my MI targets. Post and setup your state and see if we can't put competitive Links onto the scene more. SSBM where amazing happens
i'd recommend a dsmash fair, or a dash dair. cuz like we said, his dsmash has too much lag and hes too slow to finish itAgreed but when you say a grab would be better if you are trying to get a tech in place grab has to be done on guessing not reaction so in this case grab is not better because if you miss you will surely be punished. links dsmash is good but has anyone landed a dsmash dair? every time i try to set it up they go diagonal up and away i can't get um are people DIing towards you in order to go straight up? dtilt seems to be the same way about this. On the contrary the bow is his best move in which it works as a mindgame just show it to them and they become instantly terrified.
well thx, sry i mixed u n duck up for sum reason and i didnt think bigy lived in MI. have to ditto link him soonfyi the good players of michigan are
shaeden, velynn, and bigy
and i play falco not samus
I'm gonna be posting recent matches tonight, those are for you bbStos, since you're posting more here would you mind posting more in my heart too? It's lonely ******...
I think so, I played him a couple of times. I love his bomb planting.sliq is in michigan?
Nope, Cincinnati. I moved from Michigan like 7 months ago.sliq is in michigan?
Got out of my game plan and ended up being gimped, and then failed to execute at the end xDyeah you had that first match, what happened?
See the videos and then let me knowNever seen blazing's link is it good?
I love the fact that this had NOTHING to do with LINK! LMAOAOAOAOA..go watch Toy Story 3, amazing movie..
..I love the fact that this had NOTHING to do with LINK! LMAOAOAOAOA
But yeah I second the notion.
That seems to be the message for almost all movies, but nice comeback i wouldn't have thought of that again i must say amazing movie. I haven't heard about a zelda movie other than that one joke i say on IGN...
It does.. one of the movie's message is to never give up..
As for Link, never give up even though your down stocks..
edit: The movie brought peeled-back smiles and teary eyes to my face..
ay i kinda liked that dsmash until dtilt, but that only works on a CC, so did u alrdy kno that he was goin to CC or was it a lucky guess?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUCr1uTFWXk&feature=channel
hey just some **** match that i wanted your guys opinion on