[Left 4 Scum] Game Over: Scum Win

[Vyse]

I picked a really bad time to host a national smash tournament T_T
I didn't realise that the deadline would be noon, and not before the stroke of midnight :<

But I'm at work right now so I don't really have the luxury of reading through all these pages and trying to make myself more useful than I have been.

I agree that a policy lynch is necessary, since we have nothing to work with, and that inactives are likely to be targetted. So I would be willing to bandwagon a lynch on any single person with the least ties to anybody in the game currently, even if that includes me.

Sorry, I didn't realise that the deadline was so close.


Vote Mediocre

 

[Tom]

Vote Count:
[5] Not Voting (Chaco, Mayling, Macman, Pythag, frozenflame751)
[5] Vyse (Ronike, The Marsh King, Circus, Xiivi, Gheb_01)
[2] Ronike (McFox, KevinM)
[1] frozenflame751 (mentosman8)
[1] Circus (Mediocre)
[1] KevinM (Kataefi)
[1] mentosman8 (Cello_Marl)
[1] Xiivi (Handorin)
[1] Mediocre (Vyse)
[0] Kataefi ()
[0] Cello_Marl ()
[0] Gheb_01 ()
[0] McFox ()
[0] Handorin ()
[0] Macman ()
[0] Pythag ()
[0] Mayling ()
[0] Chaco ()
[0] The Marsh King ()

With 18 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch.
A deadline has been set for Wednesday, December 16th, Noon EST.

 

[Pythag]

alright, I'll join this wagon.
vote Vyse

 

[Kataefi]

Yeah it's good enough for me.

unvote vote: Vyse

 

[The Marsh King]

LYNCH VYSE

everyone who gets online should vote him in their next post. 3 more

 

[The Marsh King]

come on quickly we have less than 24 hours.

 

[The Marsh King]

and vyse vote yourself if you must. Inactivity is unacceptable in this game.

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

Holy ****. Am I really that convincing?

lol, can't say I'm complaining. I'm obviously down with Vyse.

Vote: Vyse

 

[KevinM]

Unvote
Vote Vyse

 

[KevinM]

L-1 i might add

 

[Ronike]

You might be convincing, but I'm the ****in pied piper!

 

[mentosman8]

Unvote: Frozen He's allayed my worries with him by actually showing up^.^ Anyway, are we really pushing a Vyse lynch essentially cuz he was V/LA for a while? That's a terrible reason to push a speed-lynch this late. Still fine if we end up with a no lynch.

 

[McFox]

You might be convincing, but I'm the ****in pied piper!

You realize the pied piper was evil, right? He lured over a hundred children to a cave, where they were never heard from again?

 

[Pythag]

Only because the townsfolk didn't pay him like they said they would....

 

[KevinM]

Mentos you realize a no lynch grants us NO new information from night and we lose as many as three townies right?

 

[McFox]

You're right, that's an excuse for murdering over 100 children who weren't responsible for that in the first place. He's a saint.

 

[mentosman8]

Kevin: A quicklynch like this based on someone being V/LA grants us nothing anyway. And we do gain new information from night: we'll have up to 4 clears for the day whose opinions will be entirely trustworthy. All we do by lynching Vyse like this is get rid of someone who was inactive due to not being around, likely to be a survivor, and the wagon means nothing because he's mostly a policy lynch on inactivity. I'll take up to 4 clears and workin without a lynch over pretty much just picking a lynch and going at it without the person having anything to defend against. If my two choices are last minute quick-lynch based on activity, or no lynching and using our clears tomorrow to work things out more reasonably, I'll take the latter.

 

[mentosman8]

Also, Kev, the very mechanics of this game GUARANTEE us new info from night. This game doesn't work like normal ones where no lynching means we gain nothing of use.

 

[Ronike]

@Mentos: Lynching an inactive removes a potential useless clear/incap.

@mcfox: actually, no I didn't. All I know is he led the kids around.

 

[mentosman8]

Ronike: You realize that the "inactive" we're on the verge of lynching was inactive due to being V/LA, and likely to post more often now that he's back right? If we were lynching someone who had been around and inactive, I would agree with that reasoning, but we're not, so I don't see the logic working for this case.

 

[Ronike]

He said he hasn't read through the game, he hasn't been posting for two weeks, and I don't know his playstyle. Thats why I'm fine with lynching him. You can say he'll be more active all you want, but when someone goes 2 weeks with only 7 post rvs posts, none of which have much content, its doubtful they will be contributing much.

 

[Pythag]

You're right, that's an excuse for murdering over 100 children who weren't responsible for that in the first place. He's a saint.

I didn't say it was an excuse, but he didn't wake up one day and say "yo, let's go kill tons of kids"

He's more of a medieval mobster. He did the town a favor, but when they didn't pay, he took them out at the knees.

 

[Circus]

I agree that it would be better to lynch a player that is even less likely to contribute tomorrow (I believe that's why Gheb initially voted for Mediocre and why I followed), but if it's Vyse or nothing, I'll take Vyse. He was V/LA for a little while, but with 2 weeks of discussion, his input is still horribly lacking. I'd rather lynch him now than worry about his alignment on D2 while he continues to coast as I expect him to or deal with a noncontributing incap'd.

Not to mention the fact that Mediocre is so inactive that he'll likely be replaced soon.

I'm not familiar with the way Vyse acts in mafia games, so I only have what has happened in this game to form an opinion on his playstyle. And from where I'm sitting, it looks like Vyse isn't going to be too helpful (no offense, Vyse. Callin' it like I see it). That is only a hindrance as far as I'm concerned. The smaller and stronger the group becomes, the easier it will be to actually hit scum and get helpful incap'd players. No lynch is bad. Let's trim the fat, people.

Deadline is in about 10 hours.

 

[Vyse]

First of all, I'd like to request a deadline extension. Even just 1 day.

Truthfully, I haven't been giving this game the love it deserves since it started because SQUAT (My tournament gone by) took a lot of planning, all of which ramped up around about when this game started. I'm only in two Mafia games at the moment and now that my life is back to normal I can honestly say that I will be contributing.

And yeah, that's fair Circus. I don't know how Mediocre plays (or most of you for that matter) either, but at least I'm here. I take it the reason why we're voting me instead of mediocre is because of the experience difference?

I definitely support a lynch that will eliminate an inactive player, and that includes myself. I have failed to make many links to anybody in this game thusfar, so, let me try right now.

Mentos, as much as I appreciate you coming to my rescue, I already explained why a lynch on either myself or another inactive player like Mediocre is necessary, that is, for the lack of ties those players have and thus the lack of information to be gained. Are you refuting this logic?

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

I am sympathetic to Vyse's RL situation, but I don't know if Tom will allot us an extension just because of it. I'd support an extension if he's willing to give one though.

I do believe that you'd put in a good effort now that your schedule is lightening up, but as a said before, my list wasn't based entirely on activity. The people who were on my list were there because I felt that in the event that they were incapped, I would be able to learn the least from them in a completely cleared position.

The final issue is that even if we get an extension, unless everyone is willing to go for another target, we likely won't be able to achieve a lynch within the allotted time. This obviously depends on how long the extension is if we even get one though. I'd really like to lynch one of the people I suggested, and like I said, it's not personal, but just me trying to create an ideal situation for Day 2.

I hate to support taking the easy way out on this, but given the circumstances, we don't have many options.

 

[Mediocre]

Good post.

If I had been doing **** here, I would have taken my vote off Circus.

Might as well do that now.

Unvote: Circus

You know, the more I think about it, the scummier mentos's anti-breadcrumb thing was. If I had to guess, mentos wanted to send just that message to his zombuddies: "Don't breadcrumb." How'd he do it? By looking through each post until he found one of them with "breadcrumbing" and then pointing it out.

I see no reason a townie mentos would call Circus out on it this early, when he could have waited just one day and caught a mafia with near certainty.

Ronike's looking fishy too from what McFox pointed out, but for me what mentos did is worse. Ronike's stuff could have just been forgetfulness. mentos knew what he was up to, and ****ed the town over.

For now, Vote: mentosman8

POST

So ****ing defensive.

But I think that's part of Ronike's playstyle, so I'll let it slide.

Worth noting, though.

11. Mediocre: If you were an infected and your other teammates were weaker players, or players that you didn't think would be able to handle a game such as this what would be your optimal strategy to make sure you were able to garner a win.

Watch for one of them to make a lynchable slip-up and as soon as they did I'd lead their wagon.

Even if I didn't get them lynched, when they eventually died it would make me look good.

I cannot afford any more time on this right now. Need sleep.

I will catch up with the rest tomorrow.

 

[mentosman8]

Lol love how people think it's scummy that I tried to prevent the max number of deaths at nightXD Medi, if you think that was scummy why don't you find Kevin scummy for asking people who they would incap out of certain people? That's more likely to hurt town than trying to cut off scum communication.

Anyway, I'm starting work soon. If people really think a lynch based off V/LA is better than no lynch, and nobody has before my break, I'll hammer.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

FoS Mediocre

His vote against mentosman is way too late and at this point completely unproductive. A couple of days ago I already pointed out multiple times how and why mentos is suspicious and now suddenly - a couple of hours before the deadline - Mediocre votes him for exactly the same reasons when everybody waits for the hammer against Vyse. This is completely against the town's interest and if we end up with a no lynch then I will consider Mediocre my primary lynch candidate for D2. A mentos wagon would have been acceptable earlier but is completely useless now.

I'm against extending the deadline and will not vote for it. I'd rather use it in a mylo / lylo situation when the game is on the line and we actually need additional time. Using it to delay mislynch D1 in a 18 player game would be a stupid waste. Vyse will not be able to make up for his lack of input in this time either way. Somebody should hammer him asap.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Tom isn't responding on AIM, and Jungle's posts make her seem like a night person in terms of activity. I stayed up to see if an extension would happen, but I don't think it will, and no lynch isn't a better option (though I admit, as time passed, it seemed like a better and better idea; just ultimately not the best).

I spent some time crunching numbers, and was about to post them, but then realized something about what it would show. I think Mentos realized the same thing, but he might not have realized just how dire it could be. Consider them if you like, but do not post your numbers. Suffice it to say that D3 could be really bad, like Mentos said.

Just to be sure,

vote: vyse

Time for sleep.

 

[Vyse]

Gheb's right.

Oh well, GG guys, even though I didn't do much. Usually I'm more active in games, but this one moved too fast for me to keep up with, and at a bad time to boot. Same deal with the other Dgames mafia game I'm in.

Sorry for not keeping up and wasting space in your game Tom ;(

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Vyse are you scum? Who are your foses?

 

[Tom]

Vote Count:
[10] Vyse (Ronike, The Marsh King, Circus, Xiivi, Gheb_01, Pythag, Kataefi, frozenflame751, KevinM, Cello_Marl)
[4] Not Voting (Chaco, Mayling, Macman, mentosman8)
[1] mentosman8 (Mediocre)
[1] Ronike (McFox)
[1] Xiivi (Handorin)
[1] Mediocre (Vyse)
[0] Circus ()
[0] frozenflame751 ()
[0] KevinM ()
[0] Kataefi ()
[0] Cello_Marl ()
[0] Gheb_01 ()
[0] McFox ()
[0] Handorin ()
[0] Macman ()
[0] Pythag ()
[0] Mayling ()
[0] Chaco ()
[0] The Marsh King ()

With 18 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch. A deadline has been set for Wednesday, December 16th, Noon EST.

"What do you mean, three or four of us are still infected? That's bull****!"

"It's the truth."

"**** you is the truth."

"Oh yeah? You want to do this, big guy? You want to step to me and try to explain to me how a neuroinvasive pathogen can't create false negatives in a minute percentage of the infected population?"

"Uh..."

A group of survivors bickered below deck, unable to grasp their deadly situation. Others meditated together, some praying and some humming. A kid played with a lighter. One man complained about vests. The argument continued.

"Yeah, well you MIGHT be convincin', but I'm the ****in' pied piper!"

"You know the pied piper killed like a hundred kids, right?"

"But he didn't wake up one day and say "yo, let's go kill tons of kids." He's more of a medieval mobster. He did the town a favor, but when they didn't pay, he took them out at the knees."

"You know, I think I'm starting to like you, guy."

One man stayed silent for a long time. He looked around at the people surrounding him, wondering which of them were actually, secretly infected. He had spent the entire apocalypse up to this point being the funny guy, the optimist, the one telling jokes when zombies weren't around. But now they were here and he didn't know who they were? It was too much. He got nervous. He began to sweat. He didn't know what to say, so he clammed up.

When interrogations began, he wouldn't speak. They threatened him with death, but he just wouldn't talk.

"I should put a bullet in this walker's head, right now."

"No..." he whimpered.

"Oh, you wanna talk now? Well, talk to your buddies!"

A few men grabbed him, quickly opened the door to the boat's exterior, and shoved him out. They locked the door behind him.

Everyone waited, listening for signs of a struggle. Waiting to hear the infected mob outside the door begin tearing the man apart. Waiting for screams.

But they only heard one scream:

"KILL ALL SONS OF *****ES!"

The man happily snapped, pulling shotguns from his back and pumping spray into all the shambling braindead undead around him. For almost thirty seconds he continuously killed zombies, and the group inside began to hesitate about their decision.

"He's killing them! He's not infected!"

"It could be a ploy... we can't afford to open this door again."

"Screw you, we can! Open the god **** door and let him back in!"

They spun the door handle, and as it swung open, they saw their funnyman turn to them, grinning wildly.

"Yeah! It's all I needed! Just a little action to get my blood pumpi--" loud thump terrible scream blood everywhere on the ground squirming slashing grabbing.

The group shut the door quickly. Two of them turned to each other, wide-eyed, the image of a hunter mutilating their friend replaying in their eyes.

"When we send someone out there, it's final."

Vyse, a survivor, has been lynched.

Day 1 ends. Night 1 begins. All night actions are due in 48 hours.

 

[Tom]

After sending the gun-toting optimist out the door to his gruesome fate, night descended on the ship. The survivors sectioned into groups of three, one group to keep watch while the rest slept. Everyone would have a watch shift.

The shuffling and moaning continued throughout the night with no remorse, no refrain. As dawn approached, however, there was a series of terrible screams, followed by rapid gunfire and a disgusting gurgling noise.

Someone flipped on the flood lights and the group stirred awake. A trail of blood lead in multiple directions without pattern... someone had been attacked!

"Who was attacked? And who was on watch?!"

"Hoss... the entire watch group was attacked..."

Three men lay injured on the ground.

"God **** it," wheezed a big black man in a purple polo. The baseball coach had lost his physical prowess and athletic gifts, but he still knew the game, and he was a natural leader. He thought the zombie outbreak would finally be what he needed to kick back into shape... but now he may not survive.

Macman has been incapacitated!

"I knew when someone *****ed about my vest... I knew it was gonna be a bad night," groaned another extremely large man. He was a biker - tattooed all across his body, and his favorite vest was covered in his own blood. The world's biggest barfight just saw him punched in the face.

Handorin has been incapacitated!

"Mamma mia... my blood, is like a marinara sauce... this not kinky." Were they to be his final words? A world renowned pizza chef with a penchant for pornography... he had led a good life. Was it now about to end?

The Marsh King has been incapacitated!

Only one of these confirmed townies can be saved - the other two will die with your lynch target and lose!

Uncap Count:
[0] Macman
[0] Handorin
[0] The Marsh King

[17] Not Uncapping (Chaco, Mayling, Macman, mentosman8, Ronike, The Marsh King, Circus, Xiivi, Gheb_01, Pythag, Kataefi, frozenflame751, KevinM, Cello_Marl, Mediocre, McFox, Handorin)

Vote Count:
[17] Not Voting (Chaco, Mayling, Macman, mentosman8, Ronike, The Marsh King, Circus, Xiivi, Gheb_01, Pythag, Kataefi, frozenflame751, KevinM, Cello_Marl, Mediocre, McFox, Handorin)
[0] mentosman8 ()
[0] Ronike ()
[0] Xiivi ()
[0] Mediocre ()
[0] Circus ()
[0] frozenflame751 ()
[0] KevinM ()
[0] Kataefi ()
[0] Cello_Marl ()
[0] Gheb_01 ()
[0] McFox ()
[0] Handorin ()
[0] Macman ()
[0] Pythag ()
[0] Mayling ()
[0] Chaco ()
[0] The Marsh King ()

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to uncap and 9 to lynch!

Day 2 begins!
A deadline has been set for Sunday, January 3rd, Noon EST!

Mayling is V/LA for a few days.

 

[Circus]

Don't have time to get into anything too deeply, but uncap: The Marsh King. Two heads for the price of one and one of them is Marshy's. No-brainer. Nothing personal, Mac and Hando. You know I love ya.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

wow how did i not know this day ended.

we should have lynched ronike. oh well

 

[Ronike]

Way to live up to scums expectations of you mac.

uncap marsh king for sure. I think I've got a pretty good idea as to some scum, but I'll let the incaps speak first.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Uncap The Marsh King

A cleared Marshy on D2 is one of the most powerful tools we can ask for. He is hard to trust in most games but now that we know that he's a survivor his scumdar can tipp the game in our favour. Curious to hear the opinions and suspicions of all cleared players.

 

[Chaco]

Wow, I've missed far to much due to all this ****. Anyways, I'm joining in hard now.

Uncap: Macman

Macman as a confirmed townie. No one can ask for better. Marshy lurks far to much and doesn't contribute as much as he should, where as Macman will go all out. He's a great asset.

 

[Ronike]

Wow, I've missed far to much due to all this ****. Anyways, I'm joining in hard now.

Uncap: Macman

Macman as a confirmed townie. No one can ask for better. Marshy lurks far to much and doesn't contribute as much as he should, where as Macman will go all out. He's a great asset.

don't listen to morons. Marshy as town almost always means town victory, and after having been "masoned" with him in ff, trust me, he thinks about these games more than he let's on.

Macman on the other hand didn't even know d1 was over. And although hando is doing better than normal, how long til he loss interest. Choice is obvious

 

[Chaco]

I'd keep Marshy if his later performance was better in my eyes, but I've seen Mac as town, and he pretty much never lets town down.

It is a hard choice, because I know what Marshy can do. But what is bad to me, is what he won't do. Most posts are one liners, where as Macman will dive right in.

I'll think more about it, but it's leaning Mac right now. Hando is a no go.