yellowroy
Smash Ace
How do you tech instead of getting spiked? just move your joystick this way
<=Edge
-=Side your going
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<=Edge
-=Side your going
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DreamHack619
Smash Ace
Yeah, I still gotta work on that!
the timing is slower, just wait longer than the di'ing towards the stage.
you must di towards the edge.
DreamHack619
Smash Ace
Gotta work on that ****.....
yellowroy
Smash Ace
Thanks, can you do it for other characters too?
GunmasterLombardi
Smash Champion
Boy, I wish I could fight you, my Falco vs. Yours...
wangston
Smash Lord
So I was playing falco dittos with clowsui and he kept on missing the dair and i was smash DI with the C-stick and I kept on doing a fair and dieing. I'm not sure if smash di is that good of an idea, I guess you just need to read your opponent on whether they are going to dair or not.
XxBlackxX
Smash Ace
that's why even with the new discovery, opponents have a 50/50 chance of surviving this at best (im referring to the characters that would normally be 0-deathed).
not only must they SDI+tech correctly every time they get spiked, but they also have to predict whether falco will actually spike or just do an empty sh or SHAD. if the opponent predicts wrong (if he SDI's when falco didn't spike, or if he didn't SDI but falco actually spiked) then he dies regardless.
You can usually assume that a good falco player is going to dair. The only reason they wouldn't dair is if they knew you were going to smash DI.
In general I wouldn't bother smash DIing, I'd just play gay enough to not get grabbed until my damage was high enough.
XxBlackxX
Smash Ace
not true. a "good" falco player will know to keep it unpredictable and mix up real dairs with empty sh's or SHAD's.
but yeah, avoiding the CG in the first place is the best option
I mean the reality is that MOST people can't pull off this smash DI thing, so it's worth going for the dair because if it doesnt succeed you have nothing to lose. Its worth hoping they dont tech it properly because you get a stock, and if they do tech it, so what?not true. a "good" falco player will know to keep it unpredictable and mix up real dairs with empty sh's or SHAD's.
but yeah, avoiding the CG in the first place is the best option
XxBlackxX
Smash Ace
if you KNOW the opponent can tech it at a reasonably % of success was what i meant. of course when playing people who don't know/can't do it, do the normal spike.
Is there anyone you know that is likey to tech the spike with a reasonable success rate? It's not worth the risk for probably 90% of the brawl population right now. Mabye later on in the metagame but nobodys gotten it down at this point. Thats what Im saying.
Or30
Smash Cadet
DUUUDE I use Falco and I've seen Your falco on Youtube and I Think it's one of The Greatest Falco's (in your area)
Keitaro
Banned via Administration
Man the loyalty for SK here is a lil too much, lol!
You better try to come to COT4 in Febuary. DannyKat is still planning on coming so you gotta SK. :D
You better try to come to COT4 in Febuary. DannyKat is still planning on coming so you gotta SK. :D
finalstain
Smash Rookie
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Yo SK, what should I do if I'm having trouble getting the KO? I can rack up the damage decently, but I often find it hard to hit with a kill move (like say, fsmash) since they always manage to avoid it. This is especially true when Im playing a super-safe and campy person.. I just cant seem to land that final strong move to finish off their stock.
What?! Lies!
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
what do you usually do after a shine trip?
Keitaro
Banned via Administration
I hope ya'll keep it an option at least.As for the cg spike or not spike, I think vs most people it's just best to spike unless you are sure they know how to DI to the stage correctly. I only know 1 Falco over here that knows how to do it so vs him I'll prolly not spike the first time then for most of the rest.
I can't wait to play that Falco :D
Chillin and D1 over here on the East Coast have never shown much tech-skill with Falco so I know if I face them I'll just spike.
What I also seem to notice is that if someone cg spike's you really far away from the ledge, it looks impossible to tech di or di to the stage. Does anyone else see this or do you think the DI was just messed up.
BleachigoZX
Smash Master
Who is he I wanna take him out.
As for the cg spike or not spike, I think vs most people it's just best to spike unless you are sure they know how to DI to the stage correctly. I only know 1 Falco over here that knows how to do it so vs him I'll prolly not spike the first time then for most of the rest.
I can't wait to play that Falco :D
Chillin and D1 over here on the East Coast have never shown much tech-skill with Falco so I know if I face them I'll just spike.
What I also seem to notice is that if someone cg spike's you really far away from the ledge, it looks impossible to tech di or di to the stage. Does anyone else see this or do you think the DI was just messed up.
>_>
Also on that last question it looks like maybe that only works on High %, and if you space it wrong. I don't think there's such a thing a teching a CG spike, but I'm probably wrong.
You are my friend, you are indeed.
BleachigoZX
Smash Master
I can't tell if sarcasm was being used Sir, please be more specific.
No sarcasm. The CG to spike can be tech'd against the edge. However, it requires you to SDI towards the stage at the moment of the spike's impact and then tech. This causes a battle of wits, if the spike isn't performed, then the opponent could Fair and fall to their demise. If they don't SDI and the spike connects, they get sent down to the abyss. SK92 dedicated a thread to it, look for it, I can't be bothered to look it up myself.
BleachigoZX
Smash Master
Cool then. Will do, but I haven't heard anything about it recently lets hope everyone forgets
I think it's impossible if you spike them too far from the edge. Mabye you should do some testing?
Thunder Of Zeus
*Rumble Rumble*
I seem to have difficulty with avoiding forward smash spammingtips or alternatives?
clowsui
Smash Legend
EVERY time I tried the spike vs. wangston I either buffered it wrong or it just wouldn't appear =( Sorry wangston
Also why does my CG fail against other Falco (walking) even if I do the walking buffer correctly? This is pissing me off, they escape at around 35% if I don't do that dash grab -__-
Also why does my CG fail against other Falco (walking) even if I do the walking buffer correctly? This is pissing me off, they escape at around 35% if I don't do that dash grab -__-
Vlade
Social Outcast
Good luck at COT4 (if you're still going).
Kick Mew2King's ***!
Kick Mew2King's ***!
Keitaro
Banned via Administration
Bleh, I'm too lazy and I don't have any decent Falcos near by to help me test it properly. I still may try to do so.
I was able to take off a match off M2K in tourney so I honestly think that SK has a decent chance at taking a set. M2K said Falco vs MK is even and whenever he says something is even that means he scared/has trouble with the matchup.
@ SK and DannyKat: Remember, if ya'll do decide to come, I have free housing for you two 5 mins away from the tourney :D
Vlade
Social Outcast
But I've seen SK92 play DSF's MK and he seems to be fine with the match-up. Anyway, good luck to you too.
still thinking... i never asked Sk actually...xD
Vlade
Social Outcast
Both of you must go!
probably SCSA #2
J4pu
Smash Champion
iono, DEHF is some tough competition for being best Falco on the West Coast
superglucose
Smash Apprentice
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Are your fairs on purpose?
Your commentary was fvckin Gansta. I was rollin.
Just keep the vids coming and it'll never die!this thread is still alive cool
Except when Brawl dies.