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[Delita]

I find myself in bizarro land for this game. I don't get the pushes and I don't understand why people are letting players like the one I'm voting get away with murder. Yes, inactivity is a factor but something I tell myself is that town usually wants to stay active and will have motive behind their posts, while scum would rather wait it out and not post if they have to. I suppose you can put that as reasoning for why I'm voting RainbowFingers. I don't have a solid basis but if he keeps dodging then he simply needs to go. I won't let myself end up like my newbie again and I will play hardball.

I agree with you entirely on RainbowFingers. That's one of the reasons why I chose him with Gova as options for Ryker. Read below for more info...

wait, i mean lol at adumb

Good catch. OS here.

I still want you dead toDay.


Here's the thing.

You were hiding. You were here. Yet, despite this, you said nothing.

Now it IS possible that you are normally quiet. I checked up on this and I'm actually needing to rest my eyes at the moment. They're burning because of the previous games of yours I've been reading.

You know what I found?

I found that you're inactive as both scum and town, but as scum you have this annoying habit of leaving open-ended questions laying towards any form of aggression, and your post rate is not so different from a heart beat. The more pressure gets put on you, the more you post. You crack, and you crack easy.

This doesn't mean you couldn't do it as town of course, but it does mean that what you're doing fits your scum meta. You could be town, but we at least know that you aren't not scum.

You fell onto my radar because you were sitting on the fence the entire game. I asked absolutely everyone what they thought about me and soup after we had our discussion and you know what I found?

There were two people that stood out. You, because you were the epitome of grey. Rainbow, because he was co-operative and easy to please and then simply skulked back to the shadows and never returned.


So.... I had a choice. Who to go after? I wanted to learn more.

Then along came Ryker. He'd been mostly inactive so I had no way to read him yet, but Ryker was surprisingly docile. I ran the game from the moment I started posting. The flow, the subjects, who said what... all under Delita's control with not a challenger. That's weird coming from Ryker.

So I thought I'll kill two birds with one stone.

I'm going to fast forward a little bit, but I'll come back.

Yes, hmm. Uh-huh.

I understand a few of these walls.

All I got was that some people are accusing each other of doing the same things.

GOVA!

Can I get a read list from you every 10 pages? Would make the game much easier than having to drag you away from bot lane.

This didn't catch my eye until my re-read, but this was an early exchange between Ryker and you and the only one of its kind.


Going back in time.


I wanted to know more about Ryker. He should be important here, after all.

Willing to Dayvig Delita if he posts another 328. Dislike Gova vote. He asks for stances in a scenario where he's already offered them after X amount of time and did not act like he had a problem with the arrangement. Acting detached and above the game makes him nigh impossible to read.

Openly claims dayvig (typical impotent Ryker) and says "dislike Gova vote". First defense of Gova.

Delita, will talking to you even be worth it for me?

Reason why you only now have a problem with Gova when there were no posts in between and you've shown no signs of it? What do you think about UTDZack? What's your take on Kevin's gut read?

Adumb's vote on Gova was premature; we weren't ready yet and hadn't discussed it much... but it seemed to be perfect timing after all.

Ryker immediately noticed the disconnect there. He'd been paying attention to Gova since the beginning.

Yet he makes no posts about Gova whatsoever save for his defense.


Now back to present time in my storyline, when I got my idea.

'm actually content with Gova for about another 24 hours because I've actually talked to him about mafia and I remember FFT and Hentai II where he did jack **** at the start of the game as town. I also remember RO where he did it as scum, which is why I am trying to push him to action without trying to put him on high alert.

Rainbow Fingers needs to play the game. I don't know where you get a sense that he's done anything. I really don't give Xonar anywhere near as much leash as I would give Gova. If I'm interpreting your question right, I want an analysis of your slot (read: a read and why it is there and why it is however strong it is) and to know why they aren't voting UTDZack.

Those two names were important to me at the time; I had mentioned them earlier and Ryker showed interest. So I ask my question again. Read this exchange carefully.

Don't converse with me, and instead converse with Gova or Rainbow. Your choice. You don't even have to respond to me here, just start questioning them.

If you're going to tell me that you are going to intentionally try to stay an enigma and want me to both ask you direct questions and not talk to you and instead talk to two slots I'm not at all interested in, then yes, I am going to ignore your requests. I would much rather let either of those slots go into inaction as I find that to be telling for either player dependent on how it is done.

Intentionally stay an enigma? Others seem to have some opinion of me and I've hardly been silent. If you can't read me when I'm posting, the failing is on your part, not mine. I'd again suggest to ask me direct questions if you'd like to have a better read on me.

However, given your disdain for potentially talking to me, I gave you an alternative to talk to Gova or Rainbow. You expressed interest in both slots previously and are now stating you don't have any interest in either of them.

What changed?

Why aren't they good choices for you to question?

There is no response.





We have a very clear and suspicious connection between Ryker and Gova

With no reasoning whatsoever other than "I know Gova", Ryker has given Gova a free pass completely.

Gova, meanwhile, is literally posting nonsense. He actually posted:

I had a dream that I posted about something once too. I was disappointed when that actually wasn't the case.

He was here the whole time.

Can anyone remember a SINGLE thing he's had a stance on? Has anyone else noticed his posts were non-committal until his own life was on the line, and suddenly the hated doublevoter slot tries to save itself?


We have TODAY to lynch someone. Then its the weekend and you know activity will be sparse.

@mod request votecount
@mod request prod on rainbow fingers
@mod request prod on Krystedez

Gova is the one to go. His behavior has been scummy, he has contributed nothing to this game, he has been deliberately hiding, and he has a clear connection to Ryker.

If Gova flips scum I would kill Ryker in a heartbeat.

There is no one else in this game we can lynch that has as good of a case of being scum with connections to other players. NONE.


Someone wants to lynch Rainbow Fingers? I want him dead too, but that's a blind shot in the dark and if he flips town then what then? You think we'll find anything with a 90 degree turn with a last minute lynch? I don't think so.

There's no reason to keep Gova alive. He dies, and he dies toDay.

 

[Mastermind Super Fiend]

Kantrip has alot of connections to people. We aren't lynching Gova today, I am not convinced. If you want an informative lynch, look at Kantrip.

Post #344

My issue with your vote on Gova was that the timing was misplaced, and it doesn't seem natural. You randomly just voted him for reads, and I do feel it is directly connected to your unvote of Kantrip, since it came after that. Your excuse for not looking at Gova before is that you talked about it in the Hydra QT, and now exposed the intent to push him. You state that he is the only one to straddle behind activity yet still being somewhat active, yet I don't see how that makes him scum. Since you can't prove that you have been looking at him before, it just seems to me you are being opportunistic with your random push on him, and it shows that you didn't really 'naturally' pick up his 'scummmyness'.

 

[KevinM]

btw want Raz dead because i've never seen him so irked by a scum read on him :D

 

[Delita]

Gova goes today.

Put your votes on him.

People are going in multiple directions and this is going to end in a No Lynch when we could easily move ourselves way, way forward by lynching Gova.

There will be no lynch if we don't make it happen soon.

 

[Mastermind Super Fiend]

Nope. Vote Kantrip.

 

[Delita]

I'm not even going to entertain the thought. Only an idiot would be voting Kantrip with this playerlist at this point in time.

I feel the same way about your slot, MSF. As embarrassingly bad as your play has been there's no reason to assume you're scum.

Now be useful for once.

 

[Mastermind Super Fiend]

I don't see it being idiotic at all. You want an lynch that can bring forth connections, and a Kantrip lynch can do that. You WALL a post about Gova, yet you won't even entertain the thought of a Kantrip lynch? I think it's you who isn't being useful.

Now vote Kantrip.

 

[KevinM]

Delita I would like to and I will on sunday if I have too but I can't currently. Don't think me scummy for not voting :D

 

[Kantrip]

Describe the connections you get from my flip as each possible alignment. Prove you are actually getting something from my townflip.

 

[Delita]

Kantrip has alot of connections to people. We aren't lynching Gova today, I am not convinced. If you want an informative lynch, look at Kantrip.

Post #344

My issue with your vote on Gova was that the timing was misplaced, and it doesn't seem natural. You randomly just voted him for reads, and I do feel it is directly connected to your unvote of Kantrip, since it came after that. Your excuse for not looking at Gova before is that you talked about it in the Hydra QT, and now exposed the intent to push him. You state that he is the only one to straddle behind activity yet still being somewhat active, yet I don't see how that makes him scum. Since you can't prove that you have been looking at him before, it just seems to me you are being opportunistic with your random push on him, and it shows that you didn't really 'naturally' pick up his 'scummmyness'.

K?


All you're doing is using preferential language to give something very standard a sinister intent.

A vote is a resource, if you're not using it to provide pressure on somebody for some purpose you're wasting that resource.

I disagreed with OS' vote on kantrip and unvoted, I reread searching for a more useful place to put that vote, some place that needed pressure.

Could've gone to a complete null, but gova caught my eye as being more on the scummy end.


When you assume a scummy intent to everything you'll eventually figure out a way to rationalize anything as scummy, but none of the actions imply scummyness, your argument is entirely saying actions then adding the equivalent of "and it was scummy because it was distancing from his scumbuddy kantrip".

I don't see it being idiotic at all. You want an lynch that can bring forth connections, and a Kantrip lynch can do that. You WALL a post about Gova, yet you won't even entertain the thought of a Kantrip lynch? I think it's you who isn't being useful.

Now vote Kantrip.

I already explained this when talking TO kantrip, you don't kill people you're almost positive are town because their connections are useful. You're almost positive they're town, now figure out what that implies.

You lynch nulls and scummies for connections.

 

[Delita]

I don't see it being idiotic at all. You want an lynch that can bring forth connections, and a Kantrip lynch can do that. You WALL a post about Gova, yet you won't even entertain the thought of a Kantrip lynch? I think it's you who isn't being useful.

Now vote Kantrip.

Wall? WALL?

Read the posts or replace out. I provide reasoning and follow-through and you will consume every syllable.

I spent half the day grilling Soup and Kantrip for information and the only reason you know a damn thing about either of them is me, so don't give me that BS that I wouldn't entertain a Kantrip lynch. I looked at his slot, I saw a townie, and I went elsewhere. Try to keep up.

 

[Delita]

Delita I would like to and I will on sunday if I have too but I can't currently. Don't think me scummy for not voting :D

No. Today, Saturday. Put your vote on him because we both know you won't show up on Sunday.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

BSL hydrad with me knowing full well the conditions. I simply cannot commit fully, so what does BSL do? Play moar LoL yay.


I absolutely HATE replacing out but if BSL keeps this up then Im forced to request it, I cant brong my A-town-game when I dont have time to think


wtf though bsl :/

 

[Delita]

BSL hydrad with me knowing full well the conditions. I simply cannot commit fully, so what does BSL do? Play moar LoL yay.


I absolutely HATE replacing out but if BSL keeps this up then Im forced to request it, I cant brong my A-town-game when I dont have time to think


wtf though bsl :/

Then put your vote on Gova while you're here.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Mafia and then sleep.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

So, to clarify, you've been fine with what I'm pushing for until I have Gova on top of my lynch list when you have others?

And you want to shoot me for that?

No, I said I was fine with what was being brought up, regardless of your alignment. I did not mind Kantrip and Raz being put under a spotlight. I've pretty consistently disagreed with you on at least some level in everything you've said sans your town reads on Raz and MSF.

I shot you because of your horrible push here for a bad lynch that BOTH of you should know better than and your consistent nontelling answers. The conversation I had with you earlier where you tried to redirect me away from you to two slots that I have no interest in dealing with and your all around pain in the *** attitude did not help either.

So you're lying when you said you were fine with the directions I was going or you're being incredibly erratic.

I can be fine with a heading without agreeing with the conclusions drawn. I can watch something take its course until I feel it needs to be halted if I think I can earn something from it and I wasn't going to be around to ***** at people, so you were convenient, I suppose? That being said, going into this fiasco, I had you as an extremely annoying null tell. I'm more than willing to shoot you without a strong scum read that I can't get lynched. I would not want to leave you in control of a game past Day 3 when I am probably not going to be alive anyway.

Don't want to work with you? I gave you some very clear questions and instructions and upon the initial discussion with you your response was that it wouldn't be worth it to talk to me.

Aside from the fact that you have made it clear that you expect and desire to butt heads with me in a battle for control of the thread, implying that you do not want to work with me, let me show you what I got from you.

Delita, will talking to you even be worth it for me?

Reason why you only now have a problem with Gova when there were no posts in between and you've shown no signs of it? What do you think about UTDZack? What's your take on Kevin's gut read?

If I don't shoot you toDay, who do I shoot?

Depends on which head you talk to, the past few posts were Adumb's. I know it'll be worth it to town, which is what is important.

I agree with him on the Gova pressure though; the reason we haven't showed any signs of it is because you can't read our hydra QT. Posting about it in here during the kantrip/soup talk wouldn't have done much good.

From the activity reading, he's the only one that is straddling the line between active and inactive. He's the only "playing the fence" so to speak; even the vague players like RainbowFingers and KevinM that are at least semi-present for all debates have made some sort of stance. UTDZac is in a similar boat, but is open about his "null" reads and it is entirely understandable as an approach, especially with someone from the BBR. Pierce played the same way. If it continues I'll have a problem with it, but I don't personally see an issue with it for now.

Gova though seems to be avoiding intention.

As for me, Kevin's gut read is irrelevant. I dislike Raziek's play but I don't have any reason to suspect why scum Raziek would, in the opening of the game, do the following:

• defend another player before they post a rebuttal
• do so against a hydra of two of the more aggressive players in terms of questioning (no one we're questioning really gets out of the limelight until we're done, if you haven't noticed)
• do so early enough to where any attempt at getting a lynch out of it is futile, so it literally is only calling someone out and nothing more
• Not continue to push for a lynch on the slot or judo it into another player

Really it just risks him blowing any semblance of cover and puts him at risk of cop/vig or, if town reacted violently, a lynch. I don't see a reason to see Raziek scum doing that. It's possibly he simply made a mistake, but that action alone doesn't seem to signify anything negative for me.



If you're worried about talking to me being "worth your while" Ryker, I have a compromise for you:

Don't.

Instead, take point on Gova or Rainbow Fingers. Your choice of the two, I'd like to hear more from both. You can choose the content.

I want the LAK slot to drop dead and I want to see the evolution of this conversation, but I figure you're correct and will award you the point for now.

I think you may have already said, but what was your take on Kevin?

Rainbow Fingers has done about as much as KevinM. It isn't much, but they've both made some sort of concrete stance. I like stances, they're easier to come back to than just intention.

This is in response to something completely different. and doesn't really answer my question.


Moving on, I don't really care what you are personally concerned with in regards to our play. If you can't read our slot, I suggest asking questions than asking us to play at a level you can more readily understand or to leave it to others that can.

Now I'll give you my compromise again, and this time I'd very much appreciate a response to it.

Don't converse with me, and instead converse with Gova or Rainbow. Your choice. You don't even have to respond to me here, just start questioning them.

That means not hiding questions to them in posts to me and hoping they stumble across them. Direct questioning to a specific individual, preferrably with followups.

If you're going to tell me that you are going to intentionally try to stay an enigma and want me to both ask you direct questions and not talk to you and instead talk to two slots I'm not at all interested in, then yes, I am going to ignore your requests. I would much rather let either of those slots go into inaction as I find that to be telling for either player dependent on how it is done.

What exactly was your read on Kevin?

Intentionally stay an enigma? Others seem to have some opinion of me and I've hardly been silent. If you can't read me when I'm posting, the failing is on your part, not mine. I'd again suggest to ask me direct questions if you'd like to have a better read on me.

However, given your disdain for potentially talking to me, I gave you an alternative to talk to Gova or Rainbow. You expressed interest in both slots previously and are now stating you don't have any interest in either of them.

What changed?

Why aren't they good choices for you to question?



My read is "needs to post more". He hasn't done anything particularly telling either way imo; he's playing very safe, but at this point in the game that isn't inherently scummy, just suspicious.

All of that asking and you reach a conclusion that something is up. You want to keep him around over other nulls. Hell, I don't think you even listed him as a null, so where the hell did "Kevin is playing strangely" come from?

For the record, I asked you if it would be worth my time and that was your conclusion. I was trying to get you to level with me instead of pulling more "Well, it was in the hydra QT, that's why you didn't see it."


I used up my time finding quotes. I'll have to finish tomorrow. I have a funeral to be at in 9 hours.

 

[Raziek]

Limited access today and tomorrow for a charity tournament.

Not voting Kantrip.

Gova, can we get your role claim in painful detail?

Exact role name, ability name, and specific description of the ability and how it works.

 

[Inferno3044]

I'm gonna try and do a lot of multi-posting before I have a performance. Please bear with me. Also I'll say this to KevinM now that I'm not just gonna talk when I'm mentioned. I've been busy. I have a lot of classes, rehearsals, and then tend to spend the rest of my day with friends so my internet time isn't as much.

Stance Update:

Ryker Town. I agree with his sentiments about the Delita slot, and like his interactions with him and Kevin. I can see that he is trying to understand their motivations, such as KevinM's Inferno Read.

Everyone else null. Where are Kryst/Rainbow/Gova at.

Raz Scum. I don't like that he is also pushing away from Delita due to OS making him like his slot better, without really substantiating the claims. He also does this with his strengthening of his Kantrip town read. He is the slightest scumread I have. I wouldn't look at him until after Kantrip/Delita/Soup.

Soup scum. He isn't as erratic as I would expect him to be as scum, yet I have a feeling that this is because his scumteam is a bit more organized than usual. (I'll go into this in the Delita Aisle) The reason why I feel he is scum is that his push and pull on Kantrip doesn't seem genuine to me. He states his opinion of Kantrip as a player and even tells him that he is going to unvote him, and encourages him to prove him wrong on his scumread. This shows he already has no scumread in mind because he's already changing his own mind without the need of an argument to convince him. He asks others their opinion on my slot yet he never even states his own on mine, and never gives a conclusion to his 'why did you ignore my list, Ran' interaction. That is the only reason for my scumread on Soup at this time. This is not usual ScumSoup, which is why I feel it's due to him being branched with a stronger scumplayer orchestrating the plays. He is a lower priority to me yet makes sense in association to Kantrip and Delita.

Kantrip Scum, it seemed like he was trying really hard to be town from early RVS into the exit of RVS. At the time of his wall, I just liked that he didn't back track from it, yet I can see him being told to bus OS and be the 'townie' one, which is why I can see why he would try so hard to be proactive when usually, he wouldn't do so. I also didn't like him trying to rush the Delita wagon, as if he saw ALOT more than meets the eye. His rush and over confidence is what made me re-evaluate my read on him again. He seemed to have a really strong scumread on Delita early on in RVS, yet drops it after Delita's constant walling of calling him stupid and bad town. I also don't like this, it doesn't seem genuine of him to drop it so suddenly. To me it seems manufactured. He then re-votes UTDzac for no reason, and I feel it's just like Delita's Gova vote, a backburner vote to make it seem like he's going to make use of it.

Delita Scum, I feel his gameplan as scum would be to give his team some town credit early on. How would he do this? He would attack soup (his buddy) for doing something anti-town, while Kantrip (other buddy) attacks Delita to gain town cred. I can see this as a possiblity since Kantrip was really trying to run people down as the hall monitor. Raz is a possiblity, he did defend soup but to me it's not as telling. I found his vote on Delita logically sound, yet don't see why exactly he felt Delita (OS) made him feel better. Yet again, I feel the 'push away' was manufactured. Now that's just why I feel some of the most active players may be scum. Now then, I feel Delita as an individual has been very neutral and not doing anything so people can't really see him going in a scum or town direction. I feel this would give his buddies ammo to bus him, yet I feel this backfired, due to Kantrip being really over confident of Delita and even trying to rush it with an obvious sneer that he knows too much. I stated before that Delita stated they felt that Soup was doing what he was doing so he could attack Kantrip for the same thing. I don't get what Delita felt what Soup was doing and never did he explain, it just felt disgusting because it seemed like he was attributing an evil nature to that statement. Like before, I feel OS has been very comforting when interacting with me. Some people might not understand why I find this to be a scumtell of OS, yet do remember I replaced in to FireEmblem, and his interactions here feel the same there. I would ask him questions and he would be 'understanding' "You have to start somewhere, Ran" , "You have to understand, Ran, it's not like this, it's just that... [cushion talk]" which is a very drastic attitude to "Why are you buddying me?" out of no where when I wasn't even buddying, but just agreeing with a statement he made. I also didn't like his #373, it seemed like he was trying to paint Ryker as scum for 'not being interested in Gova or Rainbow Fingers' anymore, when I can see it's that Kantrip/Delita was what caught his attention away [from gova/rain] in the first place.

Essentially, I see that Raz, Kantrip, and Soup made pushes, and all three fell back from them and then didn't do anything else. This is another reason why I feel they are scum, because it seemed like they were doing something but something messed up their plans and just had to go into passive mode. Delita didn't really do this, since he hasn't been making pushes, the only thing that seems like a back track was his unvote of Kantrip, even though there wasn't a point to voting him in the first place. I also don't like that Soup and Raz haven't really interacted with me nor commented on me, yet when they push away from their attacks, they then ask/comment on me.

I feel Kantrip is our very best lynch option today. Then goes Delita, then Soup, then Raz. Kantrip/Delita are my strongest scumreads, while Soup is medicore and Raz is a slight read.

I honestly really don't like this list. It's not that you have 4 scum reads or that I think that, with your logic, you should go for Delita but more that you think that Delita is scum and that he would immediately associate your scum reads with Delita and all people he's had major interaction with. I'm not ruling out DelitaScum (although I do not have a scumread on them atm) but I see this logic as very flawed and narrow minded.

 

[Delita]

Inferno, Ryu, Krystedez. All of you put your vote on Gova.

Deadline is Monday. We will not get enough activity.

There is no time to move people over to another lynch.

I know you're here, put your vote on Gova. If you think we should pursue someone else, tough. You shouldn't have waited to bring it up less than 48 hours before deadline. Bring it up tomorrow.

 

[Inferno3044]

Unjustified crap (like seriously what does "trying to be townie" even mean in this context?), wild speculation about a Delita/Kantrip scum team where the veteran hydra tells Kantrip to bus while proceeding to pressure him back causing him to cave under pressure. Yeah, real sound scum plan. Your speculation is so bad I want to cry. I voted for UTDZac to have my vote serving the purpose of pressure SOMEWHERE, because I could have just unvoted Delita and done nothing with it but that doesn't do me any good.

Really hating your reads but I can't call you scum for them, I can only scratch my head.

You get so defensive when people have a scumread on you. I find it very odd that you go to the extent of calling it "unjustified crap." I'll agree that I don't like his scum reads for the most part either but your defensiveness is odd.

 

[#HBC | J]

We aren't lynching Gova. RF is replacing out and will be replaced by Nabe most likely which will make things easier. Out of the inactives then I would rather have Kyrs gone.

Unvote
Vote: Krystedez

 

[Inferno3044]

Don't like J already

Who do you like?

 

[Delita]

No, I said I was fine with what was being brought up, regardless of your alignment. I did not mind Kantrip and Raz being put under a spotlight. I've pretty consistently disagreed with you on at least some level in everything you've said sans your town reads on Raz and MSF.

I shot you because of your horrible push here for a bad lynch that BOTH of you should know better than and your consistent nontelling answers. The conversation I had with you earlier where you tried to redirect me away from you to two slots that I have no interest in dealing with and your all around pain in the *** attitude did not help either.



I can be fine with a heading without agreeing with the conclusions drawn. I can watch something take its course until I feel it needs to be halted if I think I can earn something from it and I wasn't going to be around to ***** at people, so you were convenient, I suppose? That being said, going into this fiasco, I had you as an extremely annoying null tell. I'm more than willing to shoot you without a strong scum read that I can't get lynched. I would not want to leave you in control of a game past Day 3 when I am probably not going to be alive anyway.





Aside from the fact that you have made it clear that you expect and desire to butt heads with me in a battle for control of the thread, implying that you do not want to work with me, let me show you what I got from you.














All of that asking and you reach a conclusion that something is up. You want to keep him around over other nulls. Hell, I don't think you even listed him as a null, so where the hell did "Kevin is playing strangely" come from?

For the record, I asked you if it would be worth my time and that was your conclusion. I was trying to get you to level with me instead of pulling more "Well, it was in the hydra QT, that's why you didn't see it."


I used up my time finding quotes. I'll have to finish tomorrow. I have a funeral to be at in 9 hours.

This is "tearing into me"?

"I disagree with you, therefore I shot you", but it's not like town doesn't disagree.

And then there's your insane protectiveness of the gova slot when it would've been impossible for him to prove his role. This isn't even a chainsaw anymore, you're just claiming that you'll shoot us for our opinions on a slot that has provided no substance whatsoever and is perfectly following his scum meta in terms of posting a gigantic mess of nonesense.

There is no town motivation for this without some inside information whatsoever, you either mod-confirmed know he's town for some reason (scum know everyone who isn't them isn't mafia, so unless your slot has inside information...) or you're scumbuddies trying to defend each other. You know, like last time this occurred according to raz.

 

[Inferno3044]

People REALLY need to stop giving me day vig and other people REALLY need to stop taunting me when I draw it.

I'm Ezreal, Town Poisoner. Every odd day phase I can target a player with Trueshot Barrage. They die at the end of the next odd day phase.

Hope you have good reaction time on that flash, boy-o.

I am going to tear into you when I get home.

So let's say that you choose to shoot Delita. When does he die?

 

[Inferno3044]

Have scum reads on Kantrip and KevinM atm. All Kevin has really done is pop in, say that someone he doesn't like should get lynched, and dip. He has not fleshed out his reads at all and I don't see town intent. I would love to see an actual reason to why he thinks Raz and myself are scum.

Kantrip acts really defensive and wild whenever anyone has any questions or scum reads on him. He brushes them off and calls them crap for whatever reason. For example I wasn't even calling him scum when I asked him about the reason for that post and he immediately gets defensive and calls me ********. Atm I think it's more likely to be scum over flustered town.

Depending on who it is, I will lynch an inactive if needed. As for Gova, I'm not really sure what to think. I would love for him to post content because honestly I don't really recall many posts that are actually based off this game. MSF I'm very iffy about. I don't see him as town in the slightest but nothing he has really done wants me to lynch him.

Ryker I say let him live for now but things can happen. I honestly wish I knew why he has such a thing for vigging dgame titans but it's his mind not mine.

Vote: KevinM

 

[Delita]

Get your vote on Gova. There's not a chance that KevinM would get lynched toDay, and now is not the time to be pressuring for reads.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Soup
Post #452

What was your exact reasoning then? All I see is kantrip is being kantrip and he is having a temper tantrum, so therefore town? Do you think it's possible Kantrip may be faking this? Why or why not. My issue with you is that you make an insightful push but then backtrack with Kantrip appeals to you and you even do so before even getting a reply. That shows that you aren't trying to find his alignment, you are just giving him a pass for 'being himself'.

Read your first line back to yourself again. That's my exact reasoning. I was pushing Kantrip on things I considered suspicious and didn't even regard meta towards it, but as time passed I had to eventually because it's exactly like I stated. Kantrip was being Kantrip, and on top of that, you should look ahead to see what I told J because I'm not going to repeat myself.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

We aren't lynching Gova. RF is replacing out and will be replaced by Nabe most likely which will make things easier. Out of the inactives then I would rather have Kyrs gone.

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Vote: Krystedez

Damnit J. If Nabe replaces I will give him room. I didn't even notice the deadline was coming up this fast.

Unvote

Going to read why Delita is so hellbent on Gova.

 

[Inferno3044]

@mod - request votecount

 

[Gova]

Limited access today and tomorrow for a charity tournament.

Not voting Kantrip.

Gova, can we get your role claim in painful detail?

Exact role name, ability name, and specific description of the ability and how it works.

Sona, Town Supporter

Hymn of Valor, I can make someone a double voter for the next day-phase

Squishy, I take one less vote to lynch

There is no town motivation for this without some inside information whatsoever, you either mod-confirmed know he's town for some reason (scum know everyone who isn't them isn't mafia, so unless your slot has inside information...) or you're scumbuddies trying to defend each other. You know, like last time this occurred according to raz.

Please quote where Raz said this. This definitely didn't happen. In Ragnarock all Ryker did was bus/distance me every time he posted.

 

[Delita]

You didn't answer my question gova.

Damnit J. If Nabe replaces I will give him room. I didn't even notice the deadline was coming up this fast.

Unvote

Going to read why Delita is so hellbent on Gova.

A better question to ask is why ryker is so hellbent on protecting him

 

[Gova]

What question?

No worries, you must want to keep that lie under wraps. It'll make you look bad.

 

[adumbrodeus]

What question?

Here

No worries, you must want to keep that lie under wraps. It'll make you look bad.

I'll look over the game myself when I have the chance, but for now, sorry for trusting a comparison freely given by a strong townread over the analysis of the person being meta'd who is scummy for entirely unrelated reasons.

 

[Delita]

What question?

Here

No worries, you must want to keep that lie under wraps. It'll make you look bad.

I'll look over the game myself when I have the chance, but for now, sorry for trusting a comparison freely given by a strong townread over the analysis of the person being meta'd who is scummy for entirely unrelated reasons.

My bad, forgot to change windows.

 

[Gova]

I don't think it's hard to understand. I didn't admit to lurking and playing to survive. You're putting words in my mouth to make me look scummy. That's really all there is to it.

 

[Delita]

So humor me, what were you actually trying to say with that statement?

It was an accurate description of your play up until you were singled out for heavy pressure.

 

[Krystedez]

Okay, so my stances?

I don't have much.


Delita:

I read the game but I can't really give much material other than I've generally agreed with some of Delita's statements, and specifically interested in their prowess later game. however I was a little concerned with the over-concern with "crumbing". He's attacked that at least twice early toDay, like it's anything to be concerned with during RVS and early-post RVS.



Rainbow Fingers:

I didn't like Rainbow Fingers doing pretty much exactly what I did and going AWOL without at the very least entertaining my first initial question, which is what I got hung up on in the first place... hence me going AWOL and not caring a least bit about this game.

Besides the obvious rainbow colors, I just don't see the why going

"Oh, Kan voted UtdZ"

(votes Utd)

"Hm...he's SUSPICIOUSO"

(foS's Kan)

Where is the line of logic exactly? That is what I'm looking for.

Raziek:

Too early to read, resorts to same habits I've seen in the games I've played with him (read lists that pretty much just tell the tale already told with inactives and either disproportionate nulls, disproportionate scum/town, etc...)

Gova:

I've read some of his posts as just being difficult, but that's just me.


UTDZ -> J:

**** if I know, was an early RVS wagon. No motion either way with this.

Ryker:

Agreed with his statement on copping Raz, always cop the Raz imo.

Kev:

Not sure where his stances lay, kinda concerned with his jump on Inferno and not wanting to express anything further.

Pot/Kant:

"@Kryst: If you had control of my vote where would you have it go? With UTDZac replacing out I'm feeling I should wait to see who comes in and what they do in his place, do you agree?"

Concerning yourself with where I would put your vote is a bad thing to do imo, you basically answered your own question.

Would I agree to make you NOT put your vote on UTDZ in favor of waiting on the replacement to make their stances clear? Well. Huh. Maybe? Would I control your vote and ensure that? No. I want to know what YOU think, where your stances are: do you think UTD's initial vibes were worthy of ensuring a well-kept wagon? Or are we are on the right track, moving onto Gova after the recent interactions?

My vibe from UTD intially was "wants to stay out of picture", but now seeing his replacement it's easily a "lazy-town" syndrome but replace lazy with busy, similarly to me in my early day play in other mafias. It happens.

Anyways this is all I've gleamed right now from the playerlist, I don't like Rainbow Fingers even with his little activity, I don't know what to think of the Gova wagon/play.

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Vote: Rainbow Fingers

I am up for a RF or Kev lynch, as I'm kinda aligned in Inferno's thoughts (not the first time that's happened lol). I would be interested in finishing out the day on a player that hasn't contributed much, but at the same time if we did get a flip out of Gova, I can see that being helpful after ALL of the interactions that have occured.

I'm up for any of those three.

 

[Delita]

Why does everyone want to keep Gova alive?

 

[Krystedez]

I'm not saying he should definitely live after your guys' interactions, I'm just saying I'd rather lynch someone else from my own stances, not yours.

But it IS my fault for waiting this long to post much material to even see if anyone coalligns with my thoughts, so I mean that's why I'm willing to lynch those three, including Gova to make the play with a close deadline...

 

[Delita]

Then put your vote on Gova.

Rainbow Fingers is being replaced by Nabe.