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[Gova]

So humor me, what were you actually trying to say with that statement?

It was an accurate description of your play up until you were singled out for heavy pressure.

I just told you didn't I? Well that's your opinion and I don't really care. I mean I could have just not played to ignore the pressure that's totally better then playing obv.

 

[Delita]

I just told you didn't I? Well that's your opinion and I don't really care. I mean I could have just not played to ignore the pressure that's totally better then playing obv.

You mean this:

I don't think it's hard to understand. I didn't admit to lurking and playing to survive. You're putting words in my mouth to make me look scummy. That's really all there is to it.

This doesn't explain what this was supposed to say:

yeah but why the hell would i post then and risk becoming more "scummy" when i could have just lurked and banked on the fact that you would lynch one of the other nulls especially when i had ryker vouching for me lowering that likely hood.

If you didn't mean it, you were obviously being sarcastic to make a point, so what was that point?

 

[Gova]

The point that if I was scum my best course of action was just to lurk and bet on the fact that an inactive other than me would get lynched. That's what it says.

 

[Delita]

The point that if I was scum my best course of action was just to lurk and bet on the fact that an inactive other than me would get lynched. That's what it says.

Ok, I get what you're saying, you're saying that you would've been more likely to survive if you simply stayed inactive. In spite of the fact it's a perfect descriptor of your actions prior to heavy pressure.

K

That's false, the shield of being one of many inactives only shields you as long pressure hasn't built on you. In fact the mere fact that you wrote words on a page has made several people unwilling to lynch you in spite of the fact that the only actual content you've given is your roleclaim.






Now, lets be serious, what seperates the content that gova's given from people who basically haven't posted? Krys' readlist alone puts him MILES ahead of gova in terms of contribution. All gova gives is the illusion of activity so he can survive.

 

[Gova]

Pressure wouldn't work if I didn't respond in the first place, that's kind of the point.

 

[Delita]

Yes, but generally inactives who get put under the microscope when there's no clear lynch option and it's close to the deadline get lynched unless they get active quick.


Not like you've really given any actual content anyway.

 

[KevinM]

@mod request votecount plz

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

This is "tearing into me"?

This is a start.

 

[Mastermind Super Fiend]

Catching up, but I have a few questions that need to be answered before I finish:

@Rainbow Fingers:
Just replace out if by today you won't get anything done, please.

@Kantrip:
Why haven't you gone back to 'reading' Delita yet? I'm sure you have had enough time to 'cool off' if it was frustration. Please go back to it and give me a hard stance on him now.

@Delita:
Explain to me in a paragraph or less, why Kantrip is bad town to you.

I want someone who's not scumreading Kantrip to tell me a reason that doesn't involve the word "Meta."

Now tell me, why aren't you following your own advice wrt reading Kantrip?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Because I was ignoring that part and didn't believe what he was doing at that point in time was specifically telling for him. It took a bit more than that.

Ranmaru, you're really disappointing me this game.

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

I'll post during work, will discuss with John after work.

 

[Mastermind Super Fiend]

If someone else has a better idea, bring it out, but Gova seems to be the optimal route to me. Scummy play and connections to unknown entities is a good play in my book.

I don't see how Gova is scummy. I do have a much much better idea though.

Reconsidered read on Delita, wasn't necessarily going back on it but decided to spend my time elsewhere and stop concerning myself with it for a while.
I meant that he was giving me anger as in I was getting angry and wanted to steer away from that, not that he was being angry.
Never did I say he was obv scum. Never. And if I did it was feigned confidence. You think I'm that sure on a read on a hydra slot containing two intelligent mafia veterans early in D1? ***** please.
Read is erased because I just wanted time to reflect on it and worry about other things. AKA steering myself away from tunneling so I could take a step back and think logically. Something you need to do after your last couple posts, like wow.

Ok. Go back to it now. What is your current read on Delita, and I want you to factor in Delita's early RVS exit actions as well.

Red, I don't like this. It really seemed like you found something. I'm not convinced, and feel you are trying to backtrack from this.

Don't want to become a conspiracy theorist and that's why I never voiced this, although it is why I was trying to ask UTDZac about Ryker a lot. J replacing in kind of put a wrench in that but I still asked J for his thoughts on Ryker for the same reason. Basically I'm just getting connection vibes there and I see where yours are coming from too, so a two-birds-one-stone inactive/connection lynch would be pretty great. With that in mind, I don't mind joining this wagon.

Vote: Gova

Why aren't you looking for your own thing here? What happened to all that energy early D1? If I were to vote Delita today, would you join me? Why or why not.

More like other people have connections to you.

I don't see how that is a well founded case, if he doesn't have connections to them. Just feels like a one way street to me.

A hated doublevoter?

I am perfectly okay with lynching that claim.

Do you make someone a permanent doublevoter, or just a one-time doublevoter?

Why are you ok with lynching that claim? Why do you think the hated doublevoter is scum?

I just get a weird feeling about KevMo too. Something about him seems genuine and if we were going to have this argument I'd use him as my base example. I want to make this clear and say that I don't think all inactives will be scum. It's not the case and I won't let myself believe that everyone posting is absolutely town and scum decided to throw this game away and let town converse with each other this easily. I'm aware of this but I'm also aware if that's the case then the town players who aren't posting need to start posting.

Red, can you quote something that makes you feel this way? I don't see what you are seeing.

"being all whack" you have to explain that in much more detail and his weak/shallow reads I really can't explain because I don't know UTD that well but in the past he never really has had "detailed" reads and was always an inactive player since he doesn't have many games under his belt.

Kantrip, have you followed up on this?

A vote is a resource, if you're not using it to provide pressure on somebody for some purpose you're wasting that resource.

I already explained this when talking TO kantrip, you don't kill people you're almost positive are town because their connections are useful. You're almost positive they're town, now figure out what that implies.

You lynch nulls and scummies for connections.

If a vote is a resource, why didn't you let your vote on Kantrip sit for a while to garner more information? I also think Kantrip is scummy, which is why I am telling you to vote him. You should still do this.

I honestly really don't like this list. It's not that you have 4 scum reads or that I think that, with your logic, you should go for Delita but more that you think that Delita is scum and that he would immediately associate your scum reads with Delita and all people he's had major interaction with. I'm not ruling out DelitaScum (although I do not have a scumread on them atm) but I see this logic as very flawed and narrow minded.

Red, I think this is the reasoning for your concern for me, yet I don't understand it. Please clarify it further, I don't see what your problem is.

Also, would you vote Kantrip today?

 

[JTB]

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!
Deadline 10/15, 11:59 PM EST

RainbowFingers [1] Krystedez
Gova [2] Delita, Raziek
Lovably Adorable Kanine [0]
Raziek [1] KevinM
Delita [0]
Ryker [0]
Inferno3044 [1] Ryker
Soup [0]
Potassium [1] Mastermind Super Fiend
Mastermind Super Fiend [0]
J [2] RainbowFingers, Potassium
Krystedez [1] J
KevinM [2] Lovably Adorable Kanine, Inferno3044

Not voting: Gova, Soup

btw rainbow fingers has not requested a replacement, so I have not looked for anyone.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Delita, OS saw him play FFT and Adum saw him play Hentai II. Both gamed he didn't do jack on Day 1.

Raz, Ragnarok Gova was active (I mean actively contributing), but a background player. I was lurking and setting up for Gova to bus me until everyone ate up my Jailer claim.

 

[Delita]

Deadline is 32 hours and 24 minutes and we're not even close to solidifying a lynch


There are currently 3 people with 2 votes: Gova, J, and KevinM, if you're not voting for them already, vote for one of them now. Anybody that's not modconfirmed town is better then a no lynch.

 

[Delita]

Keep in mind that even if you read gova town, if he gets into lylo that's a loss right there.

 

[Mastermind Super Fiend]

Delita, please respond to my #609

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

He's a double voter, Delita. It's quickdraw in LyLo in that case.

Vote Kantrip

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Actually, Vote Kevin

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I like Kantrip because I want to murder Delita to death if he flips scum, but I like Kevin because I think he's more likely to actually flip scum.

 

[Mastermind Super Fiend]

I could compromise on Kevin, yet I feel it's very likely Kantrip will flip scum as well.

Vote: KevinM

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Heeeeeeeey Kevin.

 

[KevinM]

Nope not scum. Ryker don't be dumb bro. Also had a reason I couldn't vote yesterday. Also mad scummy checks on you two for saying you want to vote based off scummy intent plus possible connections and then coming to my slot to which for all intents and purposes will flip town with no reasonable connection except to lynch RAZ and Inferno which no one wants to listen to even though inferno is so scummy it makes me sick and RAZ is just looking like dirt mcgirt and I can't quite figure out what irks me so much about his slot

 

[KevinM]

Also sup at work just got another raise.. stack up that cake.

 

[KevinM]

I could compromise on Kevin, yet I feel it's very likely Kantrip will flip scum as well.

Vote: KevinM

Oh hey wishy washy vote mcvoterson don't forget to to hold this slot accountable for a lynch please.

 

[Mastermind Super Fiend]

I want to vote Kantrip for those purposes yet I can't be useless on a wagon by myself a day to deadline. Be rational. Out of J, Gova, and You, I feel you would most likely be scum. (And trusting Ryker here)

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Nope not scum. Ryker don't be dumb bro. Also had a reason I couldn't vote yesterday. Also mad scummy checks on you two for saying you want to vote based off scummy intent plus possible connections and then coming to my slot to which for all intents and purposes will flip town with no reasonable connection except to lynch RAZ and Inferno which no one wants to listen to even though inferno is so scummy it makes me sick and RAZ is just looking like dirt mcgirt and I can't quite figure out what irks me so much about his slot

Did you ever answer me about Inferno? You can't put your finger on Raz. Would you go J (you didn't like UTDZack)? Delita still your buddy? You still want Gova to go?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Also sup at work just got another raise.. stack up that cake.

Good ****, yo.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Krys, I see you there. What's up?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Red, can you quote something that makes you feel this way? I don't see what you are seeing.

Not trying to hard to be town but playing as if he was. I could recite [redacted] but honestly Kevin isn't the easiest read either. I suppose it's just gut per se.

I could probably vote Krys.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Ryker, why are you scumreading KevMo?

 

[Krystedez]

I'm here,

I'm just wondering if I should stick with my initial feel for Kevin or just vote on our squishy.

I mean, supports don't decide games. Right?

 

[Krystedez]

More on that line, IF we leave a double voter/town-hated til lyLo, couldnt we just keep extra tabs on everyone trying to vote them late game if they turn out to become universal town based on their play?

Gova has been sketchy toDay, and I wonder if there's a reason behind his interactions with Del.

 

[Mastermind Super Fiend]

Kryst, what is your opinion of Kantrip? I know you posted reads but I couldn't tell how you felt about him read wise.

 

[Krystedez]

He annoyed me with his initial question about what if I had control of his vote, and he hasn't put any hard reads himself from what I've seen. I think he's played a bit safe reminding me of my initial play in other mafias and asks questions that inspire no real pressure or purpose.

 

[Krystedez]

AKA a Kantrip play isn't viable at this point this late but perhaps later if he doesn't shape up on this end.

 

[Mastermind Super Fiend]

Do you think he isn't a play because there isn't a case on him yet, or just because deadline is so close?

 

[RainbowFingers]

...Wait a second guys.... Did I just catch up with this game??!?!?! Whoop whoop!!


Alright. First and foremost, I'd like to apologize for the lack of activity for both Xonar and I. I was stuck on page 6 or 7 for the longest time. I meant to read the few posts, then get our reads out. Unfortunately, I had to balance that with an essay that is due monday (writing essays is DEFINITELY not my strong point), as well as the constant call to actual LoL from Drew (curse him!).








This post was typed up on Friday. It is now sunday and there's like 17 thousand more pages. Let's try this catch up thing again...

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Ryker, why are you scumreading KevMo?

Won't answer on Inferno, has no answer on Raz, UTDZack seems to be throwing me a bone, and he's outright trying to buddy OS.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

J, always viewing, never posting.