Kuro~
Nitoryu Kuro
....i dunno if that's the best choice imo. However i guess it could lead to some beneficial positions sometimes...but meh.
@PTZR that was the best post i've seen all day. Lmao.
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Kadaj's ask me anything thread.
- Thread starter _Kadaj_
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@PTZR that was the best post i've seen all day. Lmao.
xxmoosexx
Smash Lord
I generally dash towards him just outside his ftilt range. I just run past his 1st grenade if he even gets to throw before I get there.
So its basically just skipping past all his grenades which is really the only benefit I find for doing it.
Shats
Smash Rookie
How much of Marth's metagame is MU knowledge, at least in comparison to other characters? I feel like he has such strong fundamentals, and honestly, There JUST TOO MUCH INFORMATION TO RETAAAIIINN.
Also: What's the best way to practice/execute grab release combos? I have a limited understanding of them, and it's something I definitely want/need to get better at. How do you do an air release vs. ground, etc.
ALSO: Do you remember Sourdoe? I was supposed to go to the first G6 monthly with him, and he warned me about you. I was scared, but I couldn't end up going. He was also supposed to go, and also couldn't.
Also: What's the best way to practice/execute grab release combos? I have a limited understanding of them, and it's something I definitely want/need to get better at. How do you do an air release vs. ground, etc.
ALSO: Do you remember Sourdoe? I was supposed to go to the first G6 monthly with him, and he warned me about you. I was scared, but I couldn't end up going. He was also supposed to go, and also couldn't.
xxmoosexx
Smash Lord
Honestly, Marth's metagame is alot about spacing. It's what allows us to get away from damage. Thats what marth does. He spaces all characters, if they have short range then you play at tipper and deal damage. If they have longer range, retreating fairs/punishing.
Alot of Marth's game, from my experience(get Kadaj's on this) is about spacing, punishing, and ledge traps. That's what he does. It is marth's metagame. He spaces his opponent depending on their range and either punishes them to the ledge, in which case you keep hitting back off stage as they try to recover for damage, or juggles them.
Marth is good because his spacing allows him to put his opponents in a disadvantageous situation easily.
Thats what I've learned.
TL DR
Marth's Metagame:
Spacing
Zoning(better than spacing)
Ledgetraps
Juggle
Pokes
Traps
Alot of Marth's game, from my experience(get Kadaj's on this) is about spacing, punishing, and ledge traps. That's what he does. It is marth's metagame. He spaces his opponent depending on their range and either punishes them to the ledge, in which case you keep hitting back off stage as they try to recover for damage, or juggles them.
Marth is good because his spacing allows him to put his opponents in a disadvantageous situation easily.
Thats what I've learned.
TL DR
Marth's Metagame:
Spacing
Zoning(better than spacing)
Ledgetraps
Juggle
Pokes
Traps
MaxThunder
PM Support
Would you have liked a house made of ice cream?
How would you react if someone in the middle of a serious discussion shouted "YOUR MOM'S YOUR FACE!!" at you?
Is that your real hair color?
How would you react if someone in the middle of a serious discussion shouted "YOUR MOM'S YOUR FACE!!" at you?
Is that your real hair color?
_Kadaj_
Smash Hero
I wouldn't because it'd melt 
I'd seriously consider if that person had a mental problem
I'd seriously consider if that person had a mental problem
Seagull Joe
Smash Legend
Do you realize how hard it is to take anything you say seriously (And not laugh) when every time I look at your avatar I picture an old man saying things?
_Kadaj_
Smash Hero
lmao
It's the best when you use come at me with this avatar
It's the best when you use come at me with this avatar
Pitzer
The Young Lion
There he goes again, thinking he's funny. ****** Get on that Nair already
Krackshot Kroc
Smash Ace
Craig I heard there's a new way to platform cancel now, is that true?
_Kadaj_
Smash Hero
LOL Alex
You can platform cancel with down on your control stick, or pretty much any aerial, and or using shield buttons.
That's all the ways that I know of
You can platform cancel with down on your control stick, or pretty much any aerial, and or using shield buttons.
That's all the ways that I know of
xxmoosexx
Smash Lord
Okay. So recently I have basically realized that I don't have anything "wrong" with my game right now. Its the fact that I'm not good enough at reading my opponent.
Do you have any particular things that you always look for in a match to punish?
Tips on reading your opponents?
Common patterns?
What do you do when you can't read an opponent or they are unpredictable?
Do you have any particular things that you always look for in a match to punish?
Tips on reading your opponents?
Common patterns?
What do you do when you can't read an opponent or they are unpredictable?
_Kadaj_
Smash Hero
Force them into pressure situations and see how they react to them.
Reading problem solved lmao
Everyone has Habits Ranging from Ally to Ze Scub King
Reading problem solved lmao
Everyone has Habits Ranging from Ally to Ze Scub King
_Kadaj_
Smash Hero
lol You have to adapt, if you don't you lose.
It's kinda hard to explain further than that, but if you don't adapt then you will lose.
I think one of the easier ways to help try and adapt in the match is to just wait around, stop rushing in or doing whatever you are doing wrong and just try to slow everything down and play the match at a different course.
Doing so will probably result 7-8 minute matches but it's better than losing. Even then sometimes you still end up losing due to not adapting properly
It's kinda hard to explain further than that, but if you don't adapt then you will lose.
I think one of the easier ways to help try and adapt in the match is to just wait around, stop rushing in or doing whatever you are doing wrong and just try to slow everything down and play the match at a different course.
Doing so will probably result 7-8 minute matches but it's better than losing. Even then sometimes you still end up losing due to not adapting properly
xxmoosexx
Smash Lord
Specific pressure situation examples pl0x?
I dunno if this was a recent change but your brawl character main says its Metaknight T.T
But its all good. Whatever floats your boat bro.
The only thing I could throw is in to remember all your options. Habits? I pinched myself every time I found myself doing a bad habit like rolling. Of course I was always on wifi so I've had enough pain to figure out not to do that. Trust me...if you pinch yourself every time you do something bad you will stop it soon enough.
Patterns? If it works don't stop. I wouldn't spam it but I'd continue the pattern 1-3 times depending on how effective it is. If it ain't working...buy some time to think about all of your options. Think about how they punish your pattern and what the deciding factor is that creates the pattern.
DB1 on shield, how do they react. Put them on the ledge. Put them on the edge of the stage. Do they roll to the center, jump over you, etc etc. Put them on a platform above you. Do they jump away, run off it, fall through? Intentionally misspace a fair, do they try to grab it, if so it's a free DS next time. blah blah blah.
Make sure you know what else you can do. Bad habits are there because you don't know what else you could be doing it that spot which would be better. You can't just stop doing a bad habit if you're not replacing it with something else.
xxmoosexx
Smash Lord
you will change if you pinch yourself every time 
Dublio
Smash Ace
Kadaj is different. Since he doesn't play Melee, he put down Marth as his first main instead. Since Mk isn't in melee. Even though it's a melee icon, he's just listing his mains.
Akashi
Smash Lord
Ok, weird question so please help me out on this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enszKc2vVwc
@ 10:56 Leon GR fsmash tippers Glutt. At first I thought it was a simple reverse stutter step (towards wario) fsmash, but then I started to think it was a true pivot... lol. The reason why I'm not sure is because I personally HATE the timing for stutter step, and opt to stutter step away and fsmash. I'm going crazy to figure this out, so any help is appreciated! I hope that was clear.
edit: anyone can answer this D:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enszKc2vVwc
@ 10:56 Leon GR fsmash tippers Glutt. At first I thought it was a simple reverse stutter step (towards wario) fsmash, but then I started to think it was a true pivot... lol. The reason why I'm not sure is because I personally HATE the timing for stutter step, and opt to stutter step away and fsmash. I'm going crazy to figure this out, so any help is appreciated! I hope that was clear.
edit: anyone can answer this D:
clowsui
Smash Legend
it's not a true pivot, it's definitely a stutter step fsmash
Nike.
Smash Hero
What happened against KT and P1 last weekend?
_Kadaj_
Smash Hero
KT gimped me very hard 1st game and ended up winning, game 2 both have high damage I go to punish his up smash oos but trip oos when I went to move towards him and he up smashed again lol
P1 game 3 with like 30 something seconds left on FD, I'm really bad vs diddy kong. I don't know the mu at all
P1 game 3 with like 30 something seconds left on FD, I'm really bad vs diddy kong. I don't know the mu at all
stingers
Smash Obsessed
kingtoon is mad good so theres no shame there.
player 1 though...wtf craig
player 1 though...wtf craig
stingers
Smash Obsessed
you went all mk? wtf
stingers
Smash Obsessed
i know, lol
_Kadaj_
Smash Hero
Idk why I didn't go Marth vs him. The last two times I've played him before that one I went Marth and won
Pitzer
The Young Lion
This is why you need me there craig. Imma have to motivate you like I use too
_Kadaj_
Smash Hero
Well Carlos is trying to go to G6, talk to him about riding down with him. I can have housing and everything worked out for you guys.
Orion*
Smash Researcher
P1s not bad lol
as much as he played wifi back in the day he can't be.... >.>
as much as he played wifi back in the day he can't be.... >.>
_Kadaj_
Smash Hero
Yeah he's not bad or anything, I'm just bad vs diddy kong lol
It's like my worst mu
It's like my worst mu
Saki-
Reset Project
I'm here to annoy you with ANOTHER Mk question from me
I mean the **** pisses me off, the guy hardly ever plays the game, and he's the only Metaknight player I can get practice from for the past 2 years. but yeah anyway
Basically I find myself getting trapped by downtilt and ftilt after pushing me to the edges. Yeah I'm supposed to control the center but I can't get around the ****ing aggression this guy does. "Oh use a shield then" The shield doesn't help, actually it feels as if the shield is actually hurting me a whole lot more than spot dodges or dancing blade. :I So how do you play defensive/counter a super aggro Metaknight?
I mean the **** pisses me off, the guy hardly ever plays the game, and he's the only Metaknight player I can get practice from for the past 2 years. but yeah anyway
Basically I find myself getting trapped by downtilt and ftilt after pushing me to the edges. Yeah I'm supposed to control the center but I can't get around the ****ing aggression this guy does. "Oh use a shield then" The shield doesn't help, actually it feels as if the shield is actually hurting me a whole lot more than spot dodges or dancing blade. :I So how do you play defensive/counter a super aggro Metaknight?
LooftWaffles
Smash Journeyman
Pivot grab, DS, pivot grab, DS, pivot grab, Dancing Blade
Akashi
Smash Lord
If your only problem is his dtilt and ftilt, pressure back with jab and dtilt. Shield breaker is also great for a tilt happy mk. Just make him respect your tilts, he'll be more wary, and he'll give you more room. Our tilts > his
mikeHAZE
Smash Legend
LOL
sorry kadaj i had to take over for a second.
In response to Akashi, downtilt is extremely bad in trying trade spacing with metaknight. they have so much room to punish. Shield breaker is also a really bad option, and am not even sure why you would try that as it can easily be reacted to and can lead to being punished by any of metaknights attacks (except forward smash i think). very unsafe option.
Do not use don't tilt vs metaknight in that situation. is so easily punished.
The answer to your question Kola, is you should be baiting his tilts.
this is why walking is so useful. you can weave around an opponents spacing very easily, thus being able to punish their options. Try to think of ways of making it appear as if you're volnurable, which in turn forces your friend to use one of his tilt options. Once you get him to use them unsafely, its just a matter of blocking and punishing.
As mentioned, Jab is really good for spacing.
Many don't know (or maybe do but they dont use this,) but if you have walking momentum and do a Jab, you will slide forward. it's a great way to get inside of MK's spacing if the Mk is playing solid ground game as they should be in this matchup.
Don't forget that Up B out of shield is a great option vs downtilts. you just have to do the really far forward up b. Spot dodging is easily the worse option. If MK does the slow forward tilt, they can wait tilt you spot dodge and hit you with the 2nd or 3rd hit of ftilt.
hope this helped.
sorry kadaj i had to take over for a second.
In response to Akashi, downtilt is extremely bad in trying trade spacing with metaknight. they have so much room to punish. Shield breaker is also a really bad option, and am not even sure why you would try that as it can easily be reacted to and can lead to being punished by any of metaknights attacks (except forward smash i think). very unsafe option.
Do not use don't tilt vs metaknight in that situation. is so easily punished.
The answer to your question Kola, is you should be baiting his tilts.
this is why walking is so useful. you can weave around an opponents spacing very easily, thus being able to punish their options. Try to think of ways of making it appear as if you're volnurable, which in turn forces your friend to use one of his tilt options. Once you get him to use them unsafely, its just a matter of blocking and punishing.
As mentioned, Jab is really good for spacing.
Many don't know (or maybe do but they dont use this,) but if you have walking momentum and do a Jab, you will slide forward. it's a great way to get inside of MK's spacing if the Mk is playing solid ground game as they should be in this matchup.
Don't forget that Up B out of shield is a great option vs downtilts. you just have to do the really far forward up b. Spot dodging is easily the worse option. If MK does the slow forward tilt, they can wait tilt you spot dodge and hit you with the 2nd or 3rd hit of ftilt.
hope this helped.