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Canada [Jul 26, 2014] B.C. Brawl Monthlies - Back in business, now featuring Smash 64! (Burnaby, BC)

`dazrin

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If I was ever going to play it, I probably won't now.
Please don't base assumptions off of incorrect speculation. Try the game out for yourself and judge afterwards.

That person was watching footage of the unreleased 2.5 preview build and believed things were changed, when they really weren't.
 

Alphicans

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- needs to prove a character is good
- provides video of literally one of the best players in the world using said character



Flawless argument
My proof is that lots of people, including myself (one of the best pm players in the region, if not the best) says pit blows

Suck it, pony

Action hank all up in here
So if Armada, one of the best melee players in the world, says pit is good it's written off. But when people equivalent to scrubs compared to him say he's bad that counts as proof? Dude...
 

Alacion

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The best player in the world plays Peach. This has to mean she's the best character ever. Flawless argument! :peach:

:phone:
 

Kantrip

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If a character blows I take that to mean they are really terrible to the point of being unviable.
The best player in the world plays (and wins with) Peach. Therefore she is viable. Therefore she doesn't blow.
Same player plays (and wins with) Pit in P:M. Therefore he is viable. Therefore he doesn't blow.
 

Alphicans

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If a character blows I take that to mean they are really terrible to the point of being unviable.
The best player in the world plays (and wins with) Peach. Therefore she is viable. Therefore she doesn't blow.
Same player plays (and wins with) Pit in P:M. Therefore he is viable. Therefore he doesn't blow.
Well kinda... Ally wins a tournament with falcon, does that mean falcon is viable? No it doesn't. Armada winning with pit doesn't show he's a good character, but if you watch the match you see attributes of a good character come out. He can literally combo heavily off of every aerial, and combos heavily off of dthrow and uthrow. Arrows still seem like the best projectile in the game, and can combo into themselves and can combo into other moves. He has amazing range (fair and dair are ridiculous actually), and if you get good with pit, killing shouldn't be an issue... Bair is just as strong as it is in brawl, and with no momentum cancelling it kills even earlier especially with average DI.

I actually want to know why you think pit is bad, Yakal. What attributes make him a bad character? Cause to me he seems like a better sheik with a sword and multiple jumps.
 

Arcansi

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Well kinda... Ally wins a tournament with falcon, does that mean falcon is viable? No it doesn't. Armada winning with pit doesn't show he's a good character, but if you watch the match you see attributes of a good character come out. He can literally combo heavily off of every aerial, and combos heavily off of dthrow and uthrow. Arrows still seem like the best projectile in the game, and can combo into themselves and can combo into other moves. He has amazing range (fair and dair are ridiculous actually), and if you get good with pit, killing shouldn't be an issue... Bair is just as strong as it is in brawl, and with no momentum cancelling it kills even earlier especially with average DI.

I actually want to know why you think pit is bad, Yakal. What attributes make him a bad character? Cause to me he seems like a better sheik with a sword and multiple jumps.
I never understand why stuff like this has to be explained, when it's right there in some other form.
 

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Sometimes the other form isn't as clear

EDIT: Like why do any of the sciences need to be explained? They're all right there in a physical form.
 

Arcansi

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Sometimes the other form isn't as clear

EDIT: Like why do any of the sciences need to be explained? They're all right there in a physical form.
Because all you see is the effect, not always the cause. When given cause > effect you can't know it's a law, or what it is exactly.

Given enough evidence to know, nobody should need it explained. Kinda like gravity. Nobody needs it explained, they need to know it's name. Given they know how the stuff outside the world works, and is all floaty and junk.
 

Alphicans

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Why can't the same be true for smash? It seems conceivable that people only see the effects of moves being used; they see combos happening, but maybe they don't fully understand how they're working. Breaking it down move by move through writing is often helpful for people learning to understand a character even though it seems like watching a video of it happening would be sufficient. In fact it is more than conceivable, because this actually happens a lot, hence the reason there are so many character and combo guides on smashboards.
 

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Can somebody help me/teach me to trade Pokemon? I got my fishing rod and omg the first thing I found was a Feebas which I immediately breeded into a lower level one. That's one of my favourite water types and now all I need is a Keldeo :)

Does anybody want to donate a Poliwag with Drizzle? :p I don't think I'll be able to get it myself...
 

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There is a Pokemon forum on this website but I'd rather do stuff with people I know... except for Join Avenue which is so much fun! Magnemite coil!

Oh I meant Poliwag with its special ability which I actually have to trade yet again to have it evolve into a Politoed... what a hassle!
 

Arcansi

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Why can't the same be true for smash? It seems conceivable that people only see the effects of moves being used; they see combos happening, but maybe they don't fully understand how they're working. Breaking it down move by move through writing is often helpful for people learning to understand a character even though it seems like watching a video of it happening would be sufficient. In fact it is more than conceivable, because this actually happens a lot, hence the reason there are so many character and combo guides on smashboards.

This is more true the more specific you get. Someone being good is just them being able to preform at a high level. This is extremely easy to see for anyone who understands the game.

Nobody is missing any pieces here. (or at least, Yakal isn't. I couldn't say if he is or isn't good in tournies, because I've seen very little P:M play. But that isn't true of Yakal.)
 

breez

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Someone should develop some kind of communications system...almost..some kind of software based integrated text broadcast. Only you could direct it towards a single entity. And it could reply by recognizing the specific broadcast single. Two systems should be able to "message" each other back and forth. With enough technology, this bi-communication could nearly be instant!

Some kind of "Instant-messaging" would perfectly suit your needs!

Sigh, but it is only the year 2012, and this type of innovation is nearly as likely as a human surviving a fall from high in the stratosphere. Hark. Lament.
 

Arcansi

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Someone should develop some kind of communications system...almost..some kind of software based integrated text broadcast. Only you could direct it towards a single entity. And it could reply by recognizing the specific broadcast single. Two systems should be able to "message" each other back and forth. With enough technology, this bi-communication could nearly be instant!

Some kind of "Instant-messaging" would perfectly suit your needs!

Sigh, but it is only the year 2012, and this type of innovation is nearly as likely as a human surviving a fall from high in the stratosphere. Hark. Lament.
You seem to be expressing some feeling of desperation at not being able to get others to overcome a problem you have, fellow member of the male gender of the human species.

Unfortunately, the solution you suggest would not fit the needs of all parties involved, and as such is not used. Also, you haven't identified a problem with which to use the solution on.
 

breez

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Because all you see is the effect, not always the cause. When given cause > effect you can't know it's a law, or what it is exactly.

Given enough evidence to know, nobody should need it explained. Kinda like gravity. Nobody needs it explained, they need to know it's name. Given they know how the stuff outside the world works, and is all floaty and junk.
Gravity is not ****ing "floaty and junk."

You seem to be expressing some feeling of desperation at not being able to get others to overcome a problem you have, fellow member of the male gender of the human species.

Unfortunately, the solution you suggest would not fit the needs of all parties involved, and as such is not used. Also, you haven't identified a problem with which to use the solution on.
Alas, a potential "group instant-messaging" would solve many world problems. Inconjunction with a free and open form of information, humanity would thusly thwart any and all issues of every kind.

And lasers.
 
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